Robert Griffin III has partial tears of ACL and LCL, MRI suggests

[RobbyB34]

Freeman showed how good he was the last couple games of the season... Prefect example, St Louis...

 

[ThomasTomasz]

I dont expect you to agree with me, the media has drilled into you dudes mind that he is a great QB, he isnt. Cant blame the Shanahans for implementing a system that utilizes his athleticism but he hasnt shown me anything than indicates he can make nfl throws, on a consistent basis, if needed. Guy routinely had receivers running wide open off all that run action they had going on with 3 and 4 players in the backfield and really didnt have to show much from a true QB standpoint. He really hasnt been asked to do much. Dude came from a college offense with no playbook and his NFL playbook doesnt require many reads. If this injury takes away his mobility and his speed is all of a sudden pedestrian, then we will see how good of a QB he is. Until then he is an injury prone, QB running a college offense.

You can turn this into a Freeman vs Griffin thread if you want, take away his wheels and he has no shot at being a better pocket passer than Freeman. Freeman is undoubtedly inconsistent but he 1. Stays healthy and 2. Has shown he can be a successful "QB" in this league. Griffin is not Griffin w/o his mobility, his frame wont allow him to withstand the abuse he is gonna take without being able to escape. Hell, he already showed he cant hold up with his mobility. Guy has a potential career altering injury in his rookie year and you are talking about taking him over players X,Y and Z. Get real.

Still don't get the healthy part. On the play where Griffin originally injured his knee when he collided with Haloti Ngata, any player in that situation would've had their knee injured. Nothing you could have done to stop it, and it wasn't "he should've been a smarter runner." After the concussion injury, there was much more awareness from Griffin when he took off running.

And give me a break with career altering injury. ACL injuries happen all of the time now, and it's like Tommy John surgery in MLB. Players come back at the same level, and sometimes even have elevate their play. In the past year, Adrian Peterson came back from multiple knee ligaments and nearly broke an NFL record, and returned from the injury in record time. Logan Mankins played an entire SEASON on a torn ACL, blew out a couple ligaments right before the playoffs, and still played in the playoffs. Like Peterson, he was back on the field in Week One.

I'm not saying Griffin is going to be back on the field in Week One, but to say it's a career altering injury is pure hyperbole from you, probably driven by your irrational hate of the Redskins that I have yet to pinpoint the cause.

 

[CCBrink]

Still don't get the healthy part. On the play where Griffin originally injured his knee when he collided with Haloti Ngata, any player in that situation would've had their knee injured. Nothing you could have done to stop it, and it wasn't "he should've been a smarter runner." After the concussion injury, there was much more awareness from Griffin when he took off running.

And give me a break with career altering injury. ACL injuries happen all of the time now, and it's like Tommy John surgery in MLB. Players come back at the same level, and sometimes even have elevate their play. In the past year, Adrian Peterson came back from multiple knee ligaments and nearly broke an NFL record, and returned from the injury in record time. Logan Mankins played an entire SEASON on a torn ACL, blew out a couple ligaments right before the playoffs, and still played in the playoffs. Like Peterson, he was back on the field in Week One.

I'm not saying Griffin is going to be back on the field in Week One, but to say it's a career altering injury is pure hyperbole from you, probably driven by your irrational hate of the Redskins that I have yet to pinpoint the cause.

It's just like Woy and his hate for the Steelers and their fans.

 

[BigBucs]

Still don't get the healthy part. On the play where Griffin originally injured his knee when he collided with Haloti Ngata, any player in that situation would've had their knee injured. Nothing you could have done to stop it, and it wasn't "he should've been a smarter runner." After the concussion injury, there was much more awareness from Griffin when he took off running.

And give me a break with career altering injury. ACL injuries happen all of the time now, and it's like Tommy John surgery in MLB. Players come back at the same level, and sometimes even have elevate their play. In the past year, Adrian Peterson came back from multiple knee ligaments and nearly broke an NFL record, and returned from the injury in record time. Logan Mankins played an entire SEASON on a torn ACL, blew out a couple ligaments right before the playoffs, and still played in the playoffs. Like Peterson, he was back on the field in Week One.

I'm not saying Griffin is going to be back on the field in Week One, but to say it's a career altering injury is pure hyperbole from you, probably driven by your irrational hate of the Redskins that I have yet to pinpoint the cause.

Guy has a potential career altering injury in his rookie year and you are talking about taking him over players X,Y and Z. Get real.

I didnt make a definitive statement, I said potential. Anyways, I know you Skins fans want to remain optimistic and hope for the best but it doesnt make my post any less valid. How many knee injuries you think one can take before their career is altered? Its not guaranteed to effect him long term but it certainly can and may happen. Bringing up two rare cases of miraculous feats while failing to acknowledge the other side is naive.

lol BB; you really hatin

he is still a "ROOKIE"

Still true

 

[ThomasTomasz]

I didnt make a definitive statement, I said potential. Anyways, I know you Skins fans want to remain optimistic and hope for the best but it doesnt make my post any less valid. How many knee injuries you think one can take before their career is altered? Its not guaranteed to effect him long term but it certainly can and may happen. Bringing up two rare cases of miraculous feats while failing to acknowledge the other side is naive.


Still true

It's one thing if these were far apart. It's another when they happened at the same time. You can look back further at any players over the past five years who have blown out their knees, and gone on to have the same or greater success when they've returned. It's not a death sentence like it was 20 years ago.

 

[Hasselbeck]

Doubt he's out 14 months.. first of all. Especially if it's only a partial tear of the ACL.

ACL injuries are not what they were 20 years ago. They're not even what they were 5-10 years ago. RG3 will be back in time for the season opener IMO.. and could possibly be better with a stronger knee.

THAT said.. the Skins have to repair that field. Or RG3's career is going to be cut very short.. that was an awful awful surface for both sides to play on.

 

[Argath]

:jonesy: at this thread

The main article stated it was a partial tear and they didnt know if the injury would even require surgery. Where all this missing an entire season nonsense is coming from is beyond me. I wouldn't be surprised to see RG3 playing in the preseason much less week 1.

Don't understand why anyone even tries arguing against bigbucs anymore. His whole argument against RG3 is the system he plays in.

:yao:

 

[BigBucs]

Theres pretty much a thousand percent chance he has surgery if the reports are accurate.

 

[NAHSTE]

Theres pretty much a thousand percent chance he has surgery if the reports are accurate.

:yadontsay:

 

[BigBucs]

:yadontsay:

You are so eager to be a faggot you dont even pay attention to what I am responding to. Take it back a notch.

The main article stated it was a partial tear and they didnt know if the injury would even require surgery.

 

[NAHSTE]

You are so eager to be a faggot, you dont even pay attention to what I am responding to. Take it back a notch.

So, we still don't know if it will require surgery, right?

Theres pretty much a thousand percent chance he has surgery if the reports are accurate

Because we don't know the bold. Your words, emphasis mine.

 

[BigBucs]

So, we still don't know if it will require surgery, right?

Because we don't know the bold. Your words, emphasis mine.

:ukiddingme: Aragath was clearly insinuating there is a chance he wont require surgery while having a partial tear, the report was never in question. I simply threw the "if the reports are accurate" in there to cover all bases because he clearly wont require surgery if there isnt a tear but fags gonna fag anyway.

 

[Glenbino]

Still think its funny to pay the top ligament specialist in the world to be standing on your sidelines and then leave the medical decisions up to Shanahan's gut and whether RGIII had "earned the right" to play hurt.

He also came back from a concussion to play the next week earlier in the season. Always good to see the NFLs tougher stance on player safety in full effect though.

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[ThomasTomasz]

Doubt he's out 14 months.. first of all. Especially if it's only a partial tear of the ACL.

ACL injuries are not what they were 20 years ago. They're not even what they were 5-10 years ago. RG3 will be back in time for the season opener IMO.. and could possibly be better with a stronger knee.

THAT said.. the Skins have to repair that field. Or RG3's career is going to be cut very short.. that was an awful awful surface for both sides to play on.

I am surprised with the NFL's concern about player safety that they let the teams play. I know it's the playoffs, but if an alternate venue needed to be found and you are espousing player safety, you do that.

I know that Snyder lets college teams play games there, and you have Fed Ex as a concert venue. However, you don't schedule those events during football season to hurt the field. You schedule them after the season, or you put down turf and it doesn't really matter anymore. His fault for the condition of the field.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Still think its funny to pay the top ligament specialist in the world to be standing on your sidelines and then leave the medical decisions up to Shanahan's gut and whether RGIII had "earned the right" to play hurt.

He also came back from a concussion to play the next week earlier in the season. Always good to see the NFLs tougher stance on player safety in full effect though.

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Especially when said specialist is on team payroll as their doctor.

 

[Glenbino]

Especially when said specialist is on team payroll as their doctor.

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[x0xHumblex0x]

I AINT BELIEVING ANTHING UNTIL I SEE SHANNY COME OUT IN A PRESS CONFERENCE TO MAKE AN OFFICIAL STATEMENT ON HIS RGIII's STATUS.

ALL THIS MEDIA BS IS MEANINGLESS UNTIL THEN............



MFer

 

[BigBucs]

Shanny said Griffin is on schedule for a pro bowl start.

 

[Argath]

Doctor says his current prognosis is only lcl tear but it would be extremely rare to have an lcl tear without any other ligament damage. Expected to be able to play within 6-8 months but won't be back to 100% for about a year because of the psychological effects of tearing a ligament and being able to trust that knee fully again

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--r...for-next-season--not-the-norm--030202476.html

 

[red33]

hes gonna be fine physically. medical advances these days, besides seems like a partial tear.

Like someone said its going to be psychological part that will be hard.

IMO when RG3 did that bootleg and he limp ran to the sideline a few drives before the injury was probably the point when SHanny should have pulled him. RG3 couldnt even run normal towards the sideline with really no defenders around him.