Rubio to stay in Spain?

[Kuzzy Powers]

Lol @ "his mother doesnt like cold weather". Fuck his fucking mother. This clown has done NOTHING, EVER to warrant special treatment for HIS MOTHER nevermind for himself. Good lord..

 

[JeremyHight]

If it is even true that Rubio doesn't want to go to Minnesota, the Timberwolves have no one to blame but themselves. Rubio made it very clear to Memphis that he didn't want to go there and if they did any homework, they would have known the same about Minnesota. Even if they do take him and are going to try and convince him to stay, why the hell did they take Flynn right after? Is that going to make Rubio want to come to Minnesota?

I'm thinking they took him in order to try and trade him. But when no one came calling, they were fucked.

As for Rubio being a spoiled brat? No, he is just weighing his options. The same way Elway did, the same way Cutler did, the same way a lot of draftees do.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Rubio is definitely a spoiled brat. Hes done everything to prove that.

EDIT: I actually prefer spoiled bitch.

 

[killgod]

That's disgusting.

You enter the draft, you go to where you are chosen. It's a privledge to play in pro sports leagues that many people would kill to have.

Do the Wolves hold his rights indefinitely? Or like baseball where if he's not signed he can jump back into next year's draft?

If they do own him, I'd never let him go.

 

[mfbmike]

If it is even true that Rubio doesn't want to go to Minnesota, the Timberwolves have no one to blame but themselves. Rubio made it very clear to Memphis that he didn't want to go there and if they did any homework, they would have known the same about Minnesota. Even if they do take him and are going to try and convince him to stay, why the hell did they take Flynn right after? Is that going to make Rubio want to come to Minnesota?

QFT

but apparently the Knicks want him. Who knows at this point. The sad thing is that Wolves GM David Kahn is fucking CONVINCED that these 2 can co exist, comparing them to dumars/thomas and what not. :doh:

 

[JeremyHight]

Rubio is definitely a spoiled brat. Hes done everything to prove that.

EDIT: I actually prefer spoiled bitch.

How so?

Elway didn't do shit in the pros when he told the Colts he wouldn't play for them and instead went to baseball for a year. Was he a spoiled brat or simply waiting for a better alternative?

There are plenty of players that when given the option of playing for a crappy NBA team and having to split time or pushing for a trade to a respectable franchise would take the trade 100% of the time. It isn't being a spoiled bitch, its called being smart enough to have another option (Spanish basketball) and not simply kissing the ring of whoever drafts you. He is doing the smart thing that any professional should do, HE IS PUSHING FOR WHAT HE WANTS BECAUSE HE HAS LEVERAGE!

 

[FedEx227]

That's disgusting.

You enter the draft, you go to where you are chosen. It's a privledge to play in pro sports leagues that many people would kill to have.

Do the Wolves hold his rights indefinitely? Or like baseball where if he's not signed he can jump back into next year's draft?

If they do own him, I'd never let him go.

I believe they hold his rights. That's why you see a lot of teams (see this year's Mavericks) drafting a lot of foreign guys, knowing they'll likely stay for a year or two in the Euro Leagues before they are ready to come to the NBA.

So the Wolves won't lose out too much here, however teams aka the Knicks have all the leverage, as they know the Wolves will be desperate to deal him.

 

[killgod]

Isn't the point of drafts in pro sports......to give the shit teams a chance to grab top incoming talent?

So the same teams don't always win and all markets can be profitable?

So when these top incoming players enter the draft, then say fuck that shit I'm only playing for X, Y or Z team......doesn't that defeat the purpose?

 

[JeremyHight]

You only hold the rights for one year in the NBA per the NBAPA site:

(a) A Team that drafts a player shall, during the period from the date of such NBA Draft (hereinafter, the “Initial Draft”) to the date of the next Draft (hereinafter, the “Subsequent Draft”), be the only Team with which such player may negotiate or sign a Player Contract, provided that, on or before the July 15 immediately following the Initial Draft (for a First Round Pick), or in the two (2) weeks before the September 5 immediately following the Initial Draft (for a Second Round Pick), such Team has made a Required Tender to such player. If a Team has made a Required Tender to such a player and the player has not signed a Player Contract within the period between the Initial Draft and the Subsequent Draft, the Team that drafted the player shall lose its exclusive right to negotiate with the player and the player will then be eligible for selection in the Subsequent Draft.

(b) A Team that, in the Subsequent Draft, drafts a player who (i) was drafted in the Initial Draft, (ii) received a Required Tender from the Team that drafted him in the Initial Draft, and (iii) did not sign a Player Contract with such first Team prior to the Subsequent Draft, shall, during the period from the date of the Subsequent Draft to the date of the next NBA Draft, be the only Team with which such player may negotiate or sign a Player Contract, provided such Team has made a Required Tender to such player by the dates specified in Section 4(a) above. If such player has not signed a Player Contract within the period between the Subsequent Draft and the next NBA Draft with the Team that drafted him in the Subsequent Draft, that Team shall lose its exclusive right, which it obtained in the Subsequent Draft, to negotiate with the player, and the player will become a Rookie Free Agent as of the date of the next NBA Draft.

 

[JeremyHight]

Isn't the point of drafts in pro sports......to give the shit teams a chance to grab top incoming talent?

So the same teams don't always win and all markets can be profitable?

So when these top incoming players enter the draft, then say fuck that shit I'm only playing for X, Y or Z team......doesn't that defeat the purpose?

Say the Lions traded in the NFL draft to get the 4th pick. With that pick (after drafting Stafford #1), they picked Sanchez. Neither player is pleased, but Sanchez has a multi-million dollar contract to play in the CFL for 1 season and can then go back into the draft. Would he be selfish/stupid for going to the CFL for one season and then re-entering the draft and going to a team where he would be the focus of the offense and not be splitting time? Plus, he wouldn't be playing in Detroit which is known for having a poor team and little hope for being great any time soon.

That situation is almost identical to the one with Rubio and no one would be faulting Sanchez for such a decision.

 

[killgod]

first off. LOL at Multi Million dollar contracts in the CFL.

I believe if a player is declaring for the NFL draft, or any league draft...and is drafted. You are playing IN THAT LEAGUE for that TEAM.

If you don't want to take the chance of ending up on a random team. Skip the draft and go the free agent route......no? Can they not do this?

If you don't want to 100% play in a league, don't enter their draft.


That's just how I'm seeing how it should be. I don't think these athletes should be able to do things like this. They are being paid to entertain, whether it's some dirty hick in Minnesota or Spike Lee in New York.....they are the people that are required to make this league exist. With no fans, there's no league, there's no millions of dollars, etc.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

How so?

If you dont think a 19 year old kid whos never proved a fucking thing that wont play for a team bcus his MOTHER doesnt like cold weather, is a spoiled bitch.. then your mind is very, very clouded. The dude is a spoiled little bitch. Hes been getting special treatment from the National Team and DKV Joventut and now he thinks he deserves the same in the NBA. You're a 19 year old Pre-Madonna PUNK, you want to prove you deserve special treatment? Get on a fucking NBA court and ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING.

John Elway got forgiven bcus he was a phenomenal player. He went out and proved that his whole career. Furthmore.. he never complained that his mommy would be too cold in Indy. If Rubio ends up being a HOFer ill forgive him for being a little bitch at the beginning of his career. Until then, hes just that, a little bitch. Being drafted in the NBA is a fucking privilege, a fucking HONOUR. I already thought this kid was over-hyped, over-rated, over-valued, all of that.. now hes proving to be a fucking bitch too. I cant stand him. I hope he never get to the NBA, but a part of me hopes he does get to the NBA so he can fail miserably.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Say the Lions traded in the NFL draft to get the 4th pick. With that pick (after drafting Stafford #1), they picked Sanchez. Neither player is pleased, but Sanchez has a multi-million dollar contract to play in the CFL for 1 season and can then go back into the draft. Would he be selfish/stupid for going to the CFL for one season and then re-entering the draft and going to a team where he would be the focus of the offense and not be splitting time? Plus, he wouldn't be playing in Detroit which is known for having a poor team and little hope for being great any time soon.

That situation is almost identical to the one with Rubio and no one would be faulting Sanchez for such a decision.

If you think players make multi-millions in the CFL im afraid I cant ever take anything you say seriously again bro..

 

[killgod]

If you think players make multi-millions in the CFL im afraid I cant ever take anything you say seriously again bro..

For the record, player cap is 1M. lol

Team cap is like 4.6M.

 

[killgod]

You guys do realize he has to pay money out of his own pocket to play in the NBA right? Like, alot of money. I would be doing the same shit he's doing.

And how did he end up in that situation? Did the NBA put him into it?

 

[mfbmike]

Rubio should've just waited till his contract with Joventut was up before declaring. However, Wolves should've been smart enough to fucking pass him up like with the 3 teams did before them. (Grizz, Thunder, Kings)

The more things change in Minny, the more they say the same. New Gm, sure, but this draft seemed so damn Mchale-esque. (Trading Mayo for Love when you already have a PF in Jefferson :doh: )

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

He was using a hypothetical for fuck sakes.

Terrible hypothetical then.

Hes the clown that came out and said he'd be honoured to play for free if it meant a career in the NBA. Sounds like hes blowing a lot of hot air out of his ass and is a Pre-Madonna BITCH.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Rubio should've just waited till his contract with Joventut was up before declaring. However, Wolves should've been smart enough to fucking pass him up like with the 3 teams did before them. (Grizz, Thunder, Kings)

The more things change in Minny, the more they say the same. New Gm, sure, but this draft seemed so damn Mchale-esque. (Trading Mayo for Love when you already have a PF in Jefferson :doh: )

Regardless of how dumb the Wolves are.. and im not questioning how dumb they are, bcus they're plenty dumb. It doesnt change that Rubio's a little bitch. Noone is ever going to give me a good reason to prove otherwise, atleast not until this guy is an NBA All-Star.

 

[mfbmike]

When David Stern called out Tyreke Evans at #4, a little piece of me died inside.

:rofl:

Evans and Flynn would've been doppppppeeee
Evans and Curry
even fucking Flynn and Curry would've been better than all this uncertainty.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Would you pay money out of your own pocket to play in Minnesota when you can just stay in Spain or find a way to get to LA or NY? If you say yes you're a fucking liar. He has leverage and he's using it. Tough shit. It's not like GMs didn't know this could happen.

I dont care how much leverage he has, hes a fucking spoiled bitch. Its not deniable.