Ryan Braun wins appeal of positive test for PEDs. Gob rejoices, MM still banned

[Warner2BruceTD]

What type of athletes though? Wrestlers and MMA guys, no offense (since I'm a fan of both) are probably going to take far more risks with that type of stuff.

Again, Braun could have accidentally ingested something containing artificial testosterone, who knows. The original speculation was of a medication for an STD. If that is the case, and he didnt check with his union or a league doctor or whoever, well, you see what im getting at.

Anyway, my point is that a 20/1 ratio is hardly a red flag. I've never seen anybody throw their hands up and say "welp, they got me!". Everyone lies, denies, lies, denies. Sorry, but like ive said in numerous threads in every sport forum, I dont trust any of them and personally I think all sports are dirty and rich athletes will always be ahead of testimg curves. Every team has dopers. All of them.

 

[Bigpapa42]

Jesus, there really is a bronz fonz? I thought that was a wacky name for a pub or something... I gotta visit Milwaukee...

 

[FedEx227]

It's pretty underwhelming lol. I searched around the city for like an hour to try and find it. It's like a replica so it's probably 5'6 and nowhere near as shiny as that.

 

[Slateman]

It looks freshly brasso'd in that picture

 

[Bigpapa42]

It's pretty underwhelming lol. I searched around the city for like an hour to try and find it. It's like a replica so it's probably 5'6 and nowhere near as shiny as that.

I wouldn't be coming to see the statue. Just bemused that the city has one. Haven't been to Milwaukee in ages and it seems like it would be a fun place to visit. Might take a train out to Milwaukee or Chicago this summer. Its like $200 round trip - can't beat that.

 

[Primetime]

So Braun questioned in his appeal whether it was really his urine that was being examined, offered to give a DNA sample to make it conclusive, and the MLB said no thanks. Why the fuck wouldn't they want that especially when it is being argued in front of the arbitrator?

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

So Braun questioned in his appeal whether it was really his urine that was being examined, offered to give a DNA sample to make it conclusive, and the MLB said no thanks. Why the fuck wouldn't they want that especially when it is being argued in front of the arbitrator?

Interesting.

It could be that providing a DNA sample goes against the collective bargaining or the testing policy or both, which again is stupid, because getting to the truth at all costs should be the policy.

They shouldnt care if samples are 30 hours late, and if a player wants to skirt the policy and provide DNA, they should be allowed to do so. All of this is ridiculous.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Without blood testing, half the league is probably on HGH anyway.

 

[Primetime]

Braun mad

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Well, that presser was a waste of time.

Braun's explaination is poop and the questions asked by the press were horrendous (Pedro Gomez asking about the Brewers chances this year wins for most worthless question).

Braun is basically hinging his entire defense on possible tampering of the sample. He's going to sue everybody, which is really just grandstanding, and he was very careful to not discredit the actual test result, which is telling.

Basically, he concedes the positive, but denies it's his sample. All because some kid didnt know FedEx was open. What a clown show.

 

[FirstTimer]

So we learned more nothing.

Awesome.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

So the more I read and the more I think about it, the more absurd Braun's explanation is.

Braun concedes the sample was locked and sealed by the collector, but is claiming that during the 40 or so hours before it got to FedEx that it was potentially tampered with.

I mean, its absurd. These things are sealed up and the lab in Montreal obviously saw no issue with the sample when it arrived.

Braun can use the word 'exonerated' as many times as he wants, but this is nothing more than a loophole/technicality that he got off on. He'd be out 50 games right now if the collector knew FedEx was open on a Saturday night.

Innocent is not a word that should be used right now. It isnt accurate.

 

[Swarley]

I just laugh every time he says his innocence was proven. Getting off b/c of a technicality and a fuck up on the part of someone else doesn't prove anything (except that someone is a dipshit).

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

So it turns out FedEx doesnt deliver these samples on a weekend anyway, so even if the collector had gone to FedEx Saturday, all that would have changed would have been the sample sitting in FedEx's fridge instead of the collectors.

So again, this all comes down to the collector tampering with the sample. Come on, can anybody buy that?

 

[shag773]

So it turns out FedEx doesnt deliver these samples on a weekend anyway, so even if the collector had gone to FedEx Saturday, all that would have changed would have been the sample sitting in FedEx's fridge instead of the collectors.

So again, this all comes down to the collector tampering with the sample. Come on, can anybody buy that?

It's like getting out of a speeding ticket because the State Trooper that pulled you over wasn't wearing his hat when he walked to your car door. I agree, exonerated doesn't really fit here. More like "Lucky as shit....".

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Its a technicality, bottom line.

Braun was there when the guy sealed the sample and boxed it up. Kind of a giant leap to think this person unopened the package, tampered with it, then reseasled everything, AND did such a good job that the lab didnt notice any of that on Tuesday.

Yes, by letter of the policy he should have, and did, win th appeal. But he is being way too cocky with the exonerated nonsense. I understand hes tryong to protect his image and being defiant, but that doesnt mean I have to buy it.

 

[FirstTimer]

There has to be something more he presented. Especially if the B sample came back clean and if the one report is true about him and his side being able to recreate the issue for the arbitrator.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

More information about the refridgeration issue. When the samples are flown to Monteal, they are flown on a non refridgerated plane. So the refridgeration means nothing.

The "independant" arbitrator who voted in Braun's favor has now voted 12-0 in the favor of the union in these cases. L--O--L.

The collector was in constant contact with his bosses all day Saturday on what to do with the sample, and was instructed to take it home. Braun SIGNED DOCUMENTS stating that the sample was going to the collectors home. DOH! This, apparently, is not an unual protocol for weekend samples.

Its only going to get worse for Braun, clingingg to this goofy conspiricy nonsense.

 

[Sacrafice]

From what I heard is that the route the dude took to get home has 2 FedEx offices on that route for him to know exactly if it was open or not and that he is a Cubs fan.

No idea if this was true or not, but if it is true why would he drive by them and not check to see or turn his head knowing that's where he needed to take it and see if it was open if he didn't have ulterior motives.

If all this info is true and not rumor then I believe it was tampered with. Dude boxed the shit, but apparently there is only one label and box in the office. No way he could just replace them with new ones.

I do not know what to think and I do not judge on a whim. If he did it then suspend him, if not then don't suspend him. I just love it though because he was one of the loudest people hating on Manny and the alike when they got busted. One thing I do know is I hate hypocrites and this last line would piss me off more than him being stupid.

 

[EmpireWF]

MLB may consider suing in federal court to reverse the arbitrators ruling. One report says they will wait until Das' written report is published and their lawyers get a chance to review it.