• Rules and regulations here: http://www.virtualsportsnetwork.com/forum/showthread.php?133219-VSN-Secret-Santa-Donation-Drive-Raffle-Waffle-Maynard-is-Awful&p=2346085#post2346085
  • We have just launched a new VSN Amazon Store. This new store will allow you to order games (including PC downloads) and anything else you want from Amazon and help VSN out at the same time! You get the exact same deals and pre-order bonuses through our store front as you do from Amazon so please bookmark this link and use it when you are shopping at Amazon.com - [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/"][COLOR="#0000FF"][U]VSN Amazon Store[/U][/COLOR][/URL] Here are some direct links to pre-order the major upcoming titles- [B][SIZE=4][COLOR="#0000FF"]PlayStation 4[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BGA9WK2"]PlayStation 4 500GB Console[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00HVBPRUO"]PlayStation 4 Gold Wireless Headset[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BGA9X9W"]PlayStation 4 DualShock 4 Wireless Controller[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BGAA3S2"]PlayStation 4 Camera[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DCBDNW6"]Final Fantasy XIV: A REALM REBORN[/URL] - April 14th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00J128FPA"]Final Fantasy XIV: A REALM REBORN Collectors Edition[/URL] - April 14th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IMVRVC4"]Trials Fusion[/URL] - April 15th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GG4BBUM"]MLB 14: The Show[/URL] - May 6th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DHF39KS"]Wolfenstein: The New Order[/URL] - May 20th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BI83EVU"]Watch Dogs[/URL] - May 27th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DYAQHTQ"]Watch Dogs Limited Edition[/URL] - May 27th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00I0574EW"]Murdered Soul Suspect[/URL] - June 3rd [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DHF39HQ"]The Elder Scrolls Online[/URL] - June 30th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BGA9ZZ4"]Drive Club[/URL] - September 30th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GZ1GUSY"]Tomb Raider Definitive Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00H5V9S6E"]Rayman Legends - Standard Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00C27SCC2"]Thief[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00HD4R5YU"]Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes Standard Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BGAA0SU"]inFAMOUS Second Son Limited Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FYIXMHQ"]inFAMOUS Second Son Collectors Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00D2ZK1IG"]Dying Light[/URL] [B][SIZE=4][COLOR="#0000FF"]PlayStation 3[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00B0JALUE"]PlayStation 3 500GB Console[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00AEX81SG"]PlayStation 3 250GB Console[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GY4OAIE"]LEGO The Hobbit[/URL] - April 8th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00I9UVY30"]FIFA 2014 World Cup Brazil[/URL] - April 15th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00ICWO2ZW"]Darksiders Collection[/URL] - April 29th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00ICWO2P2"]Red Faction Collection[/URL] - April 29th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00HQY8LRM"]Rambo The Video Game[/URL] - April 29th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FRESXSA"]The Amazing Spider-Man 2[/URL] - April 29th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00CPKUV98"]Wolfenstein: The New Order[/URL] - May 20th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00J6DLPLK"]Drakengard 3[/URL] - May 20th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BGHUS58"]Watch Dogs[/URL] - May 27th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DYAQHZ0"]Watch Dogs Collectors Edition[/URL] - May 27th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BG6ZHK0"]Murdered: Soul Suspect[/URL] - June 3rd [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IGHP28Y"]Transformers Rise of The Dark Spark[/URL] - June 24th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DNGQTFI"]Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Z[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00H4BBTCQ"]Tomb Raider - GOTY Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00HNYWFMC"]Far Cry Compilation [/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00946FSIA"]Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00HQY8LRM"]Rambo The Video Game[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FQFFPZO"]NASCAR '14[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DFT92MU"]Thief[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B0088MVP3S"]Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00ECOBFCC"]The LEGO Movie Videogame[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B006IOAHPK"]South Park: The Stick of Truth[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FDQQD52"]South Park: The Stick of Truth Grand Wizard Edition [/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00F6YD2AK"]Dark Souls II Black Armor Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00F6YD2FK"]Dark Souls II Collectors Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GJSUUC0"]Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes Standard Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00E44EZYA"]Ultra Street Fighter IV[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00D2ZK2O4"]Dying Light[/URL] [B][SIZE=4][COLOR="#0000FF"]Xbox One[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00CMQTVUA"]Xbox One Console[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00MCLFZ1Y"]Xbox One Console Madden 15 Bundle[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IIHU44E"]Xbox One Console Titanfall Bundle[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00HVPFGD8"]Titanfall Limited Edition Controller[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00CMQTUSS"]Xbox One Wireless Controller[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IAVDQCK"]Xbox One Stereo Headset[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IAVDOS6"]Xbox One Stereo Headset Adapter[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GY4OB8S"]LEGO The Hobbit[/URL] - April 8th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00CMQTUCE"]KINECT Sports: Rivals[/URL] - April 8th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IMVRVA6"]Trials Fusion[/URL] - April 15h [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FRESTZW"]The Amazing Spider-Man 2[/URL] - April 29th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DHF39L2"]Wolfenstein: The New Order[/URL] - May 20th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00CX8VY4S"]Watch Dogs[/URL] - May 27th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DYAQI0E"]Watch Dogs Limited Edition[/URL] - May 27th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00I0574CO"]Murdered Soul Suspect[/URL] - June 3rd [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IGH2HKU"]Transformers Rise of The Dark Spark[/URL] - June 24th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DHF39EO"]The Elder Scrolls Online[/URL] - June 30th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GZ1GUNO"]Tomb Raider Definitive Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DBCAS7E"]Zoo Tycoon[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00H5V9SLE"]Rayman Legends - Standard Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00CYNTHA0"]Thief[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DB9JYFY"]Titanfall[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00G2HSX86"]Titanfall Collectors Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00HD4R5WC"]Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes Standard Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00D2ZK2MQ"]Dying Light[/URL] [B][SIZE=4][COLOR="#0000FF"]Xbox 360[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FATRKOK"]Xbox 360 250GB Holiday Value Console[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GZ9ESEE"]Xbox 360 250GB Console w/Halo 4, Darksiders II, Tomb Raider and Batman: Arkham City[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B003ZSP0WW"]Xbox 360 Wireless Controller[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DC9SWWE"]Titanfall[/URL] - April 8th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00G2HSWZU"]Titanfall Collectors Edition[/URL] - April 8th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GY4OBB0"]LEGO The Hobbit[/URL] - April 8th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00I9UVY7G"]FIFA 2014 World Cup Brazil[/URL] - April 15th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00ICWO2G6"]Darksiders Collection[/URL] - April 29th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FRESY6G"]The Amazing Spider-Man 2[/URL] - April 29th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00CPKUV7K"]Wolfenstein: The New Order[/URL] - May 20th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BGD6LMG"]Watch Dogs[/URL] - May 27th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DYAQHNC"]Watch Dogs Limited Edition[/URL] - May 27th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BG6ZHL4"]Murdered: Soul Suspect[/URL] - June 3rd [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IGHY7LC"]Transformers Rise of The Dark Spark[/URL] - June 24th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DNGQQUQ"]Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Z[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00H4BBVZQ"]Tomb Raider - GOTY Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DBCAT3W"]Fable Anniversary[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00946FSJ4"]Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FQFFQ2Q"]NASCAR '14[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DFT92EI"]Thief[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B0088MVP2Y"]Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00ECOBFA4"]The LEGO Movie Videogame[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B006IOAHTQ"]South Park: The Stick of Truth[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FDQQD6Q"]South Park: The Stick of Truth Grand Wizard Edition [/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00F6YD26Y"]Dark Souls II Black Armor Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00F6YD27I"]Dark Souls II Collectors Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GJSUXLS"]Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes Standard Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00E44EZPE"]Ultra Street Fighter IV[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00D2ZK2RQ"]Dying Light[/URL] [B][SIZE=4][COLOR="#0000FF"]Wii U[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GY4OAM0"]LEGO The Hobbit[/URL] - April 22nd [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FRESQKU"]The Amazing Spider-man 2[/URL] - April 29th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DC7G2W8"]Mario Kart 8[/URL] - May 30th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IGH1LJ8"]Transformers Rise of the Dark Spark[/URL] - June 24th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DC7O77A"]Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00ECOAX34"]The LEGO Movie Videogame[/URL]
  • We are looking to possibly form a second XB1 Madden 15 league on VSN. Please visit the Sports Gaming subforum and post in the thread if you are interested.
  • There will be a site outage from 12 pm est till 3 am est
  • If you are having trouble accessing your account and don't remember your password, email help@virtualsportsnetwork.com and i'll get you an updated password for 2024.

So what do you think about this...

Brady during his first 9 playoff games.

Pats go 9-0, 3 SB wins.
Brady: 190-304 (63%) 1951 yards (217/game) 11 TDs, 3 INTs 2 rushing TDs 1 lost fumble.

Brady during last 10 playoff games.

Pats go 5-5 SB loss.
Brady: 234-378 (62%) 2456 yards (246/game) 19 TDs, 13 INTs 2 lost fumbles.

Dude went from perfect to mad average.
 
Well, they didn't lose to the Jets because of Brady. They lost because his receivers either couldn't get open or dropped the ball. Plus, his defense has not been especially good in recent playoff games.
 
Yeah, fuck Tom Brady. He's not as invincible as he seems.

Call me biased, but I still stand firmly behind the fact that Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, and Drew Brees are better quarterbacks than he is. I get it, he's won three Super Bowls. That's great, but that shouldn't be the greatest measure of a quarterback because there's so much more that matters.

I find it remarkable that other really great quarterbacks like Rodgers and Rivers get overlooked because they "don't have the ring". Brady's supposed to be the quarterback who gets it done when it matters, yet he was given 11 chances to do so and couldn't beat the Jets who styled on him today.

Brady always gets the free pass because he's got the rings, but the truth is that without the rings, Brady, with some deviance, is consistently hanging around the bottom of the Top 10 QB list each year. But, we always jump to his post-season success to defend/cement his status.

I've always said that and always believed that. Sure, he's done some impressive things like breaking Peyton's 49 TD record and his passes without a INT, but as a quarterback, Brady has never blown me away to consider him the best quarterback in the league or even as the Top 3.

I've gotten pretty tired of people only giving props to quarterbacks when they win in the playoffs. For instance, the Brees bandwagon last year, the Aaron Rodgers one this year... yet, there's fear to do it at the beginning of the year. Why can't anyone just grow a pair?
 
Yeah, fuck Tom Brady. He's not as invincible as he seems.

Call me biased, but I still stand firmly behind the fact that Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, and Drew Brees are better quarterbacks than he is. I get it, he's won three Super Bowls. That's great, but that shouldn't be the greatest measure of a quarterback because there's so much more that matters.

I find it remarkable that other really great quarterbacks like Rodgers and Rivers get overlooked because they "don't have the ring". Brady's supposed to be the quarterback who gets it done when it matters, yet he was given 11 chances to do so and couldn't beat the Jets who styled on him today.

Brady always gets the free pass because he's got the rings, but the truth is that without the rings, Brady, with some deviance, is consistently hanging around the bottom of the Top 10 QB list each year. But, we always jump to his post-season success to defend/cement his status.

I've always said that and always believed that. Sure, he's done some impressive things like breaking Peyton's 49 TD record and his passes without a INT, but as a quarterback, Brady has never blown me away to consider him the best quarterback in the league or even as the Top 3.

I've gotten pretty tired of people only giving props to quarterbacks when they win in the playoffs. For instance, the Brees bandwagon last year, the Aaron Rodgers one this year... yet, there's fear to do it at the beginning of the year. Why can't anyone just grow a pair?

Because you can put up all the stats you want during the regular season but if you don't show up in the postseason it doesn't mean shit. See Matt Ryan, Romo, and Rodgers (pre this postseason).

A quarterback's success is always going to be measured on their playoff success. I have gone through this and am still going through it as a Cowboys fan with Romo. Until you start winning when it matters you will always be ranked lower than the guys who are proven winners and who have multiple rings, and deservedly so.

And if you are giving me the opportunity to choose either Brady or Rodgers or Brees, I am taking Brady every single time, and its not even close.
 
Because you can put up all the stats you want during the regular season but if you don't show up in the postseason it doesn't mean shit. See Matt Ryan, Romo, and Rodgers (pre this postseason).

A quarterback's success is always going to be measured on their playoff success. I have gone through this and am still going through it as a Cowboys fan with Romo. Until you start winning when it matters you will always be ranked lower than the guys who are proven winners and who have multiple rings, and deservedly so.

And if you are giving me the opportunity to choose either Brady or Rodgers or Brees, I am taking Brady every single time, and its not even close.

So you'd rather have Terry Bradshaw than Dan Marino?
 
Because you can put up all the stats you want during the regular season but if you don't show up in the postseason it doesn't mean shit. See Matt Ryan, Romo, and Rodgers (pre this postseason).

A quarterback's success is always going to be measured on their playoff success. I have gone through this and am still going through it as a Cowboys fan with Romo. Until you start winning when it matters you will always be ranked lower than the guys who are proven winners and who have multiple rings, and deservedly so.

And if you are giving me the opportunity to choose either Brady or Rodgers or Brees, I am taking Brady every single time, and its not even close.

I don't like it.
 
Besides Brady, what about Bellichick?

He hasn't looked too good in these playoff losses either. Sure they look unstoppable during the regular season but what happens once the playoffs roll around?

With all the draft picks they have coming to them, it's to the point where they have to be expected to win and if they cannot win a 4th ring over the next two years....sucks for Pats fans.
 
Yeah, fuck Tom Brady. He's not as invincible as he seems.

Call me biased, but I still stand firmly behind the fact that Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, and Drew Brees are better quarterbacks than he is. I get it, he's won three Super Bowls. That's great, but that shouldn't be the greatest measure of a quarterback because there's so much more that matters.

I find it remarkable that other really great quarterbacks like Rodgers and Rivers get overlooked because they "don't have the ring". Brady's supposed to be the quarterback who gets it done when it matters, yet he was given 11 chances to do so and couldn't beat the Jets who styled on him today.

Brady always gets the free pass because he's got the rings, but the truth is that without the rings, Brady, with some deviance, is consistently hanging around the bottom of the Top 10 QB list each year. But, we always jump to his post-season success to defend/cement his status.

I've always said that and always believed that. Sure, he's done some impressive things like breaking Peyton's 49 TD record and his passes without a INT, but as a quarterback, Brady has never blown me away to consider him the best quarterback in the league or even as the Top 3.

I've gotten pretty tired of people only giving props to quarterbacks when they win in the playoffs. For instance, the Brees bandwagon last year, the Aaron Rodgers one this year... yet, there's fear to do it at the beginning of the year. Why can't anyone just grow a pair?

When has he been a bottom 10 QB? When he was out for the whole season in 2009? Cause from seeing him in 2007, 2009, 2010, he has been a very solid Quarterback. 50 TD's to 8 interceptions in 2007, are you kidding me? That's unhuman. 36 TD's to 4 interceptions this year. What is unimpressive, or bottom 10 QB in the league about that? You really think that you can name 22 better starting quarterbacks in the league than Tom? The dude hasn't had a true threat at WR except Moss in his whole career but still turns dirt into gold.
 
Hard to imagine or figure: Tom Brady now has lost three straight postseason games.


life goes on, athletes age, other teams develop. It happens to all of them.

Brady and Manning canstill be good for a while but their team victories wont be as deep in the playoffs anymore.

Why do you think every so called expert picked the Jets to get this far ?
 
When has he been a bottom 10 QB? When he was out for the whole season in 2009? Cause from seeing him in 2007, 2009, 2010, he has been a very solid Quarterback. 50 TD's to 8 interceptions in 2007, are you kidding me? That's unhuman. 36 TD's to 4 interceptions this year. What is unimpressive, or bottom 10 QB in the league about that? You really think that you can name 22 better starting quarterbacks in the league than Tom? The dude hasn't had a true threat at WR except Moss in his whole career but still turns dirt into gold.

Read again.

Brady always gets the free pass because he's got the rings, but the truth is that without the rings, Brady, with some deviance, is consistently hanging around the bottom of the Top 10 QB list each year. But, we always jump to his post-season success to defend/cement his status.
 
Back
Top