So what do you think about this...

[FirstTimer]

I was comparing how both teams lost their playoff game based on fumbles by their QBs at crucial times.

Yeah...we know. Thanks for confirming that and your idiocy.

I was just comparing the two scenarios.

See above.

bama:

 

[ralaw]

You seriosuly just compared Romo mishandling a hold to Aaron Rodgers putting up 45 points in the playoffs but losing because he got crushed on a blitz?

Seriously?

Dallas fans are the worst.

Yeah they are. I work with one....the first thing he says to me when he walks into work today is, "Romo is 0-3 in his last 3 playoff games." He then says, "If that was Romo people would be saying he needs to retire."So, I asked him if Romo had 3 SB rings and he told me that didn't matter.

I don't know what it is, but Dallas fans are always super sensitive about "their guys" and they always related things back to Dallas players...always. They get butthurt over people discrediting their guys and they then go and do the same with other players and most of the time they don't even agree with what they're saying, but only do so to "make a point" about Dallas players.

 

[Primetime]

Thing that pisses me off the most is that wins are considered a Quarterback stat.

Rodgers had more TD passes in 1 playoff game than Romo has had in his whole 4 game playoff career so far.

I don't care what their records are I'd take Rodgers' 4 playoff games:
73% completion, 969 yards 10 tds 1 INT 2 rushing TDs

against Romo's 4 games:
59% completion, 832 yards, 4 TDs, 2 INTs

Shit isn't even close at this point maybe romo will get better though.

To make your point even further, Rodgers has only 3 playoff games under his belt.

 

[Deviant]

It is a stretch. You brought up 2 HOF QBs. My point was a HOF QB against a QB who has only been starting for 3 years. Right now I will take Brady. Ask me the same question in a year or 2 and maybe my answer changes.

Now you're dodging the question or you just know what the answer is.

Fine, let me put this way then. Ben Roethlisberger or Philip Rivers/Aaron Rodgers?

 

[Champ]

Eli Manning ^^^^^

 

[Primetime]

Eli Manning ^^^^^

....is garbage

 

[Juggernaut]

I don't care what their records are I'd take Rodgers' 4 playoff games:
73% completion, 969 yards 10 tds 1 INT 2 rushing TDs

against Romo's 4 games:
59% completion, 832 yards, 4 TDs, 2 INTs

Godgers :fap:

 

[kmanharris]

Now you're dodging the question or you just know what the answer is.

Fine, let me put this way then. Ben Roethlisberger or Philip Rivers/Aaron Rodgers?

Ben>Rodgers>Rivers

It is close between Rodgers and Ben though. Ben just makes clutch throw after clutch throw in crunch time (See Superbowl and this weekend's game). It is hard to not take him.

Rodgers will get there though, he just needs a few more years under him. IMO hes not on Ben's level YET.

 

[ram29jackson]

I posted something similar in regards to Joe Montana in the infamous 1,000 page Peyton Manning thread.

Post champioships, the Joe Montana post season resume is equally unimpressive.

People have long memories when it comes to winning SB's, and once you have won a few, nothing you do after can ever tarnish your legacy. The idea that Joe Montana and Tom Brady are infallable postseason/"money" QB's is something that, unfortunatley, we will have to listen to until the end of time, becaus its repeated non stop by talking heads in the media.

But yes, they were infallible. when on a team working/functioning well on all ends. Brady and Manning have been fantastic making the playoffs year after year.But you cant dominate the post season without tangibles in place and luck that Brady hasnt had and wont have again probably, the Patriots reign of making it to the Super bowl has been over for years now and probably for a long time.

 

[ram29jackson]

only 9 or 10 QBs have won a Superbowl after age 32.

the Super Bowl isnt the end all be all of Football history but an interesting 45 year stat.

 

[Deviant]

Ben>Rodgers>Rivers

It is close between Rodgers and Ben though. Ben just makes clutch throw after clutch throw in crunch time (See Superbowl and this weekend's game). It is hard to not take him.

Rodgers will get there though, he just needs a few more years under him. IMO hes not on Ben's level YET.

Rodgers first ever playoff game shits on any game that Roethlisberger has ever had in the playoffs. And Rodgers next two playoff games have been even more impressive.

You really want Roethlisberger over Rodgers, who is averaging over 28 points on his own per game?

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Well well well.... After crying and bemoaning he was VASTLY overrated in that NFLN top 100 , and saying over and over and over and over that when "asked to win the game with his arm" Brady has never shown he could. He has not been nor has he ever been the catalyst for a championship team the way Manning/Montana and even Favre were.

Like it or not he is Aikman , Bradshaw level of greatness. There team relied on other facets for championships not there arms.

I posted something similar in regards to Joe Montana in the infamous 1,000 page Peyton Manning thread.

Post champioships, the Joe Montana post season resume is equally unimpressive.

People have long memories when it comes to winning SB's, and once you have won a few, nothing you do after can ever tarnish your legacy. The idea that Joe Montana and Tom Brady are infallable postseason/"money" QB's is something that, unfortunatley, we will have to listen to until the end of time, becaus its repeated non stop by talking heads in the media.

The difference here is Montana won championships after some dry spells and retooling. Ended up arguably even more dominant for the 3rd and 4th.

Brady was along for a great ride and since then has been asked to be the focal point of winning and losing and has not delivered.

Again...Aikman. Looked like a god in the playoffs until the defense slowed down and the dark portion of the triplets werent carrying the load or getting open.

 

[citizenerased]

Montanas Big Game/Superbowl Magic also included scoring touchdowns on his last minute drives, not getting merely into field goal range against average, tired defences playing prevent and letting Adam Vinateri face the real pressure.

Manning is being crucified by many for "choking in the playoffs" - he completed 75% of his passes, had an 108 rating and walked off the field with the lead with less then a minute to go.

Brady, on the other hand and his 145 yards to go with his 13 points on offense are single handily the reason the Patriots won Superbowl XXXVI, not the Patriots defence which held one of the greatest offences of all time to 17 points, and scored 7 themselves.

 

[citizenerased]

*A post so awesome I had to make it twice*

 

[kmanharris]

Rodgers first ever playoff game shits on any game that Roethlisberger has ever had in the playoffs. And Rodgers next two playoff games have been even more impressive.

You really want Roethlisberger over Rodgers, who is averaging over 28 points on his own per game?

If you are looking at it from a purely stat point of view then you take Rodgers. I wasn't. Rodgers hasn't hit his WR in the corner of the endzone as time expired to win a Superbowl or hit his WR down the sideline late in the 4th quarter in a time game in the playoffs to set up the win.

I am looking at more than just stats for this one and right now I'll take Roethlisberger.

 

[bucky]

I am looking at more than just stats for this one and right now I'll take Roethlisberger.

And you can have him. I'll take Rodgers. Cause, part of what you are talking about is opportunity. So far, in all the playoff opportunities that Rodgers has had, he has excelled in. Even in the playoff loss to Arizona.

 

[Senser81]

Post champioships, the Joe Montana post season resume is equally unimpressive.

That may be true, but Montana's "championship reign" was from 1981-1989, which is a pretty long time.

 

[celtsxpatsxsox]

Well well well.... After crying and bemoaning he was VASTLY overrated in that NFLN top 100 , and saying over and over and over and over that when "asked to win the game with his arm" Brady has never shown he could. He has not been nor has he ever been the catalyst for a championship team the way Manning/Montana and even Favre were.

Like it or not he is Aikman , Bradshaw level of greatness. There team relied on other facets for championships not there arms.

Couldn't you say that about most superbowl winning quarterbacks in the last few years?
-05/08 Roethlisberger had good defenses
-07 Eli had a good defense
-06 Peyton didn't have a good defense in the regular season and carried them in the regular season but the defense played pretty good in the playoffs.

Last 5 years Drew Brees is closest one imo that "carried" his team in the playoffs and even then he had luck and his defense made some plays.

Even this year you could say we have 4 of the top defenses remaining.

 

[G-men]

Couldn't you say that about most superbowl winning quarterbacks in the last few years?
-05/08 Roethlisberger had good defenses
-07 Eli had a good defense
-06 Peyton didn't have a good defense in the regular season and carried them in the regular season but the defense played pretty good in the playoffs.

Last 5 years Drew Brees is closest one imo that "carried" his team in the playoffs and even then he had luck and his defense made some plays.

Even this year you could say we have 4 of the top defenses remaining.

thats why the phrase is defense wins championships and not quarterbacks win championships.

 

[packersfan4eva]

Rodgers (pre this postseason).

A quarterback's success is always going to be measured on their playoff success. I have gone through this and am still going through it as a Cowboys fan with Romo. Until you start winning when it matters you will always be ranked lower than the guys who are proven winners and who have multiple rings, and deservedly so.

And if you are giving me the opportunity to choose either Brady or Rodgers or Brees, I am taking Brady every single time, and its not even close.

Aaron Rodgers not showing up in the playoffs before this year?

He was in the playoffs last season. Yeah, they lost. But the Packers scored 45 points. 45. You're telling me that's not showing up? They lost because the defense fucked it up big time. Sure, he fumbled in overtime. But c'mon. He scored 45 points. The Cardinals scored 51. That's showing up.