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The Boxing Thread (Sweet Science) - Mayweather vs. Maidana

enough of the Delahoya fights comparison between PBF and Manny.... there are different fights... Floyd fought DelaHoya at 154, which is pretty much his natural weight.... Manny fought Oscar at 147 which he drained himself to get too..... just like you cant really compare the fights against Marquez between the two.... Floyd fought Marquez two weight classes about the weight Manny fought Marquez ( hell it might have been 3 weight classes)

with that said.... i think Floyd dominates Manny.... while the speed is virtually the same, the styles are what makes that fight, and Manny is perfect for Floyd... he is aggressive and throws alot of punches, but he is small and isnt very good defensively, while Floyd is great defensively and loves to counter punch...not to mention, Floyd would have a distinct size and reach advantage over Manny and he aint droppin below 147 to fight him...
 
JrRawlins said:
enough of the Delahoya fights comparison between PBF and Manny.... there are different fights... Floyd fought DelaHoya at 154, which is pretty much his natural weight.... Manny fought Oscar at 147 which he drained himself to get too..... just like you cant really compare the fights against Marquez between the two.... Floyd fought Marquez two weight classes about the weight Manny fought Marquez ( hell it might have been 3 weight classes)

with that said.... i think Floyd dominates Manny.... while the speed is virtually the same, the styles are what makes that fight, and Manny is perfect for Floyd... he is aggressive and throws alot of punches, but he is small and isnt very good defensively, while Floyd is great defensively and loves to counter punch...not to mention, Floyd would have a distinct size and reach advantage over Manny and he aint droppin below 147 to fight him...
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Manny pretty much met DLH in the middle. He moved up, DLH moved down. That has been fairer than anything Mayweather has been doing these past few years. He didnt even make the catch weight for the Marquez fight. Manny weighed in at 142 for the DLH fight not to mention he skipped Jr. Welter and only had one fight at light weight before that fight. You cannot fault Manny for having DLH coming in at 147.

As for a PBF Pacman fight he would beat him. The size advantage and Mayweathers cautious style would lead to a fight in which Manny presses the action but gets caught inbetween punches and the size disparity would be to much.

If Mayweather fought Cotto it would mirror the Marquez fight. Cotto is just to slow and Mayweather wouldnt engage at all. If he was to engage in that fight then it would close but we all know Mayweather by now.

The only fight for Mayweather that makes sense to me is a fight with Mosley but everyone seems to be fooled into thinking a fight between Manny and Mayweather would be such a great fight when it would be a gross mismatch unless Mayweather makes 140.

You have to respect Mosley. He even offered to come down to 140 to face Manny but all the wolf tickets Roach was selling was bullshit because he wanted no parts of that for Manny.
 
Mayweather would pot shot Cotto to a boring UD much like his fight with Marquez. I would be rooting for Cotto but I dont see him winning it based on Mayweathers cautious unengaging style. The few times Marquez touches Mayweathers chin the other night he immediately jumped on his bicycle. The boy doesnt like to get hit.

If he fights Mosley and doesnt hit him with something Mosley has to respect, shoulder roll be damned. Mosley is gonna walk his ass down and force him into a fight where he will ultimately get KOed IMO. If not a KO a UD decision.
 
BigBucs said:
Mayweather would pot shot Cotto to a boring UD much like his fight with Marquez. I would be rooting for Cotto but I dont see him winning it based on Mayweathers cautious unengaging style. The few times Marquez touches Mayweathers chin the other night he immediately jumped on his bicycle. The boy doesnt like to get hit.

If he fights Mosley and doesnt hit him with something Mosley has to respect, shoulder roll be damned. Mosley is gonna walk his ass down and force him into a fight where he will ultimately get KOed IMO. If not a KO a UD decision.
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Yeah, I think he beats Cotto now, Cotto doesnt look the same since Margarito, seems to have lost that explosivness and speed he had, I guess cement blocks to the dome will do that to you, I thought he lost the Clottley fight, lets see what he has for Pacman

I would pick Shane over PBF
 
I want to see the PBF vs Pacman fight because I think it would be entertaining. I do not want to see PBF vs Cotto. Mosley is interesting, because you have to wonder when his age is going to catch up to him.
 
Here is the post fight interview for anyone who hasnt seen it.

[ame="http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhIuhK749fF93Ud62n"]Video: Get Em': Floyd Mayweather Gettin At Shane Mosley For Trying To Play Him While Gettin Interviewed! (Shane vs Floyd Might Be Going Down Soon)[/ame]

Here is a video of Shane Mosley doing an interview after the Post fight presser. Just right click and save as. Its well worth the watch. Its about 10 mins long.

http://video.boxingscene.com/filess/mosley92009.wmv
 
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1p7xbUY7js&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - "Sugar" Shane Mosley vs Floyd "Money" Mayweather:Bad blood[/ame]
 
i think Cotto can beat Manny.... i dont think he can beat Mayweather though.... Cotto thinks he is a boxer and has some solid skils boxing but he is nowhere near the level of PBF......

PBF vs Mosley would be a good fight at 147... i think PBF could win that fight, his pop-shotting accruacy/defense and speed would help him...... Mosley would clearly be the aggressor, i dont think he would KO PBF though... Mosley really doesnt have a pesky jab and loads up to throw punches... if Floyd can catch him coming in early with one of the check left hooks he loves to throw, he could gain Mosley's respect early..... would be a very interstig fight, especially if PBF throws the jab...
 
JrRawlins said:
i think Cotto can beat Manny.... i dont think he can beat Mayweather though.... Cotto thinks he is a boxer and has some solid skils boxing but he is nowhere near the level of PBF......

PBF vs Mosley would be a good fight at 147... i think PBF could win that fight, his pop-shotting accruacy/defense and speed would help him...... Mosley would clearly be the aggressor, i dont think he would KO PBF though... Mosley really doesnt have a pesky jab and loads up to throw punches... if Floyd can catch him coming in early with one of the check left hooks he loves to throw, he could gain Mosley's respect early..... would be a very interstig fight, especially if PBF throws the jab...
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you got cotto over pacman?
 
i said i think he can beat Manny, but iam not sure if that will happen...... Cotto before Margarito beats Manny...... now...... ehhh..... not so sure...... he isnt the same fighter... i think that is apparent..... if i had to bet on the fight which i wont...... i would probably take Manny even though i am rooting for Cotto..... i dont think Manny is all he is hyped up to be......
 
JrRawlins said:
i said i think he can beat Manny, but iam not sure if that will happen...... Cotto before Margarito beats Manny...... now...... ehhh..... not so sure...... he isnt the same fighter... i think that is apparent..... if i had to bet on the fight which i wont...... i would probably take Manny even though i am rooting for Cotto..... i dont think Manny is all he is hyped up to be......
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yeah, I really don't have a lot of faith in Cotto right now, so I just can't see taking him over Pacman. As far as the Hype, I am not sure I can go against it again, sure there are lots of reasons why he won his last two fights convincingly besides just his skill, but in the end we keep doubting him and he keeps coming up. Cotto maybe a shot fighter, but who knows we will see.
 
JrRawlins said:
i think Cotto can beat Manny.... i dont think he can beat Mayweather though.... Cotto thinks he is a boxer and has some solid skils boxing but he is nowhere near the level of PBF......

PBF vs Mosley would be a good fight at 147... i think PBF could win that fight, his pop-shotting accruacy/defense and speed would help him...... Mosley would clearly be the aggressor, i dont think he would KO PBF though... Mosley really doesnt have a pesky jab and loads up to throw punches... if Floyd can catch him coming in early with one of the check left hooks he loves to throw, he could gain Mosley's respect early..... would be a very interstig fight, especially if PBF throws the jab...
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I dont think May will hit Mosley with anything he has to worry about. I think his speed with be more pesky than anything. As for Mosley not utilizing his jab I dont think that will be the case. Remember he has Naseem Richardson as his trainer and a game plan will be implemented that will include using the jab and crowding Floyd. I hope this damn fight is made.

Hopefully the Cotto Pacman fight is so good it warrants an immediate rematch and this forces Floyd into a fight with mosley unless he plans on waiting around for nearly a year.
 
PSA to Mayweather and his fans who condone his cowardly acts. This some real shit. Dude speaks nothing but the truth.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_BdwWfPVOE"]YouTube - Shane Mosley Approach Mayweather.. A Closed Mouf Dont Get Fed[/ame]
 
Vitali will break him down. Arreola doesnt have the conditioning to survive to the championship rounds. Klitchko is gonna paint his ass with 1-2's all night and KO him around the 8th or 9th. Will be more exciting that most Klitchko fights because Arreola is gonna press the action but he just wont be effectively aggressive. Manny Stewart is gonna put in the proper game plan and Vitali will execute.
 
while i dont think Arreola will win, i am definitely rooting for him..... like mentioned above, his lack of conditioning and experience in championship fights is critical.. and i think Manny is a great trainer who can prepare any fighter if they listen ( Jermain Taylor)
 
JrRawlins said:
while i dont think Arreola will win, i am definitely rooting for him..... like mentioned above, his lack of conditioning and experience in championship fights is critical.. and i think Manny is a great trainer who can prepare any fighter if they listen ( Jermain Taylor)
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yeah there is no doubt about Manny in the corner, shit if Taylor listened to him he would have beat Winky Wright easily, instead he got a lucky draw
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4504737

Roy Jones Jr has agreed to a fight with Bernard Hopkins in 2010, according to Dan Rafael at ESPN.com. Jones must first defeat Danny Green on December 2 in Australia. Assuming Roy Jones Jr gets the victory over Green, the Hopkins fight will occur in the first quarter of 2010.

The fighters have agreed to a 50/50 purse split but that could change to 60/40 if someone wins by knockout.
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