The General Wrestling Thread

[FedEx227]

TNA is what would have happened if WCW wasn't sold to Vince McMahon.

Sooner or later the awesome of the awesomely bad would have faded away and you would have simply gotten some of the worst wrestling program your mind could handle.

Not necessarily. The awesome of the awesome bad was mainly in that it's undercard had some unbelievable wrestling.

It was just the main events that were hilariously bad. The returning superstar and mastermind is..... ROAD WARRIOR ANIMAL!!!1!!!

 

[SuperKevin]

Please be joking about Animal

 

[EmpireWF]

Please be joking about Animal

No way.

They did a big angle where a guy dressed all in black including a mask attacked people (forgot who). It was revealed to be fatty Animal.

:headbang:


From Wiki:

The main event was between Sid Vicious, Jeff Jarrett, WCW World Champion Scott Steiner, and a "mystery opponent" for the WCW World Heavyweight Championship in a Four Corners match.[10][12][13]

The match begins with only three competitors, without the mystery opponent.[10][13] Vicious gains the advantage over Jarrett and Steiner in the start of the match, but was then double-teamed by Jarrett and Steiner. As Vicious is making a come back into the match, he attempts an aerial maneuver, which is unsuccessfully performed as he slips on the turnbuckle legitimately fracturing his leg.[18]

Towards the end of the match, then-WCW CEO Flair announces the arrival of the "mystery opponent", who comes out wearing a mask, hiding his identity.[12]

He enters the ring delivering an axe handle on Vicious knocking him down, due to the leg injury, where Steiner takes advantage and covers Vicious for the victory, thus successfully retaining the WCW World Heavyweight Championship.[10][12][13]

After the match ended, the "mystery man" unmasked and revealed himself to be Road Warrior Animal, making his return to WCW after leaving with his longtime tag team partner Road Warrior Hawk in 1996.[14]

 

[FedEx227]

I wish I was making it up, but no...

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

For a minute in couldn't figure out if this was something old you were talking about, or something brand new that TNA was doing.

Think about that...my mind had no issues wrapping itself around the fact that TNA was giving a monster push to ROAD WARRIOR ANIMAL in 2010. I wasn't shocked one bit, and found it completely acceptable.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Not necessarily. The awesome of the awesome bad was mainly in that it's undercard had some unbelievable wrestling.

It was just the main events that were hilariously bad. The returning superstar and mastermind is..... ROAD WARRIOR ANIMAL!!!1!!!

And now, TNA doesn't even have awesome undercard wrestling. It has nada. It has the Guns v. the fuckin Dudleyz.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

BRUTUS MAGNUS disagrees.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

BRUTUS MAGNUS disagrees.

I have seen him appear in dark matches on the spoilers.

Has he done anything else? He still teaming up with Nigel walking around Malls with the hot broad?

 

[FedEx227]

And now, TNA doesn't even have awesome undercard wrestling. It has nada. It has the Guns v. the fuckin Dudleyz.

That's why TNA is way worse than WCW 2000.

It has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

That's why TNA is way worse than WCW 2000.

It has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

True.

However, this is what would have happened to WCW in due time, if it wasn't taken by Vince.

 

[FedEx227]

WCW wasn't going to last any longer no matter what happened to it/who bought it.

TNT pulled the plug on showing wrestling, it was over.

I do see your point though.

 

[EmpireWF]

The question is, do the top TNA guys have guaranteed deals? Hell no I presume.

If TNA were to go under in the next 5 years, very few would catch on in WWE.

For the better of the business, TNA has to stay alive.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

The question is, do the top TNA guys have guaranteed deals? Hell no I presume.

If TNA were to go under in the next 5 years, very few would catch on in WWE.

For the better of the business, TNA has to stay alive.

The guys that matter would just catch on in the indies and one of the guys who already made money would go and start a new fed to bring the old guys to.

ROH would benefit from Styles, Joe, the Guns, etc back in the fold meanwhile, maybe the Hulkamania tour would become a full fledged American promotion to the delight of all, as we'd be able to see a main event grudge match between Hulk Hogan and Kevin Nash with an undercard of Sean Morley / Orlando Jordan v. The Nasty Boyz.

 

[SHOGUN]

I just caught myself up with Albert Del Rio's since he came to Smackdown and he's awesome. He's so damn smug.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Meltzer said in this week's Observer that if Heyman had ended up in charge of TNA, he would have fired everyone in creative and hired Gabe Sapolsky and Dave Lagana as his assistants.

Lagana booked that pretty good period of WWECW after Heyman left (Punk, Morrison, Elijah Burke era) and currently works with ROH laying out tv & ppv. Sapolsky is obviously Heyman light, the protoge who has the Heyman fingerprints all over his booking.

When Heyman was flirting with the job, I suggested Gabe & Scott D'Amore as right hand men. This would have been awesome, too. Fuck TNA.

 

[EmpireWF]

Meltzer said in this week's Observer that if Heyman had ended up in charge of TNA, he would have fired everyone in creative and hired Gabe Sapolsky and Dava Lagana as his assistants.

Lagana booked that pretty good period of WWECW after Heyman left (Punk, Morrison, Elijah Burke era) and currently works with ROH laying out tv & ppv. Sapolsky is obviously Heyman light, the protoge who has the Heyman fingerprints all over his booking.

When Heyman was flirting with the job, I suggested Gabe & Scott D'Amore as right hand men. This would have been awesome, too. Fuck TNA.

Sapolsky said himself that he had talked to Paul much during the period he was negotiating with Dixie. Gabe said he would have been a consultant of some kind and Paul could revolutionize wrestling again.

Too bad TNA's management is shit.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

LOLTNA.

Paul hands them some of the best minds in the business on a silver platter that could revolutionize the business and Dixie's like "nah, I'mma stick with Russo, Hulk Hogan, Eric Bischoff, Abyss, Dutch Mantel, Jeremy Borash (lol), and Jeff and Jerry Jarrett."

Dixie is such a woman.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

To be fair, I'm sure its very hard not to buy the bullshit of Hogan & Bischoff when they are sitting acrosss a table from you. Say what you want, but those are two very charasmatic and convincing bullshitters. Bischoff could sell ice to eskimos.

I'm sure if she ever met Gabe f'n Sapolsky, with his short pudgy physique, mop top hair, untied adidas, sloppy clothes that don't fit, and giant Jillian Hall mole, it wouldnt/didnt inspire confidence.

But I guess it would to help to at least follow the business you're in.

 

[EmpireWF]

She must be incredibly gullible and a mark...it's simple. Since 2005 (with Russo), has TNA grown AT ALL?

Since Hogan/Bischoff got on board in January, has anything of note changed with the product in a positive way? People are not buying PPVs and the show continues to be unwatchable and averages about the same amount of viewers they always have.

Perhaps she was scared off by people in her ear or Heyman's desire to take the company public after a few years....frustrating.

They lose money so why the hell have they kept the same people in power?

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

To be fair, I'm sure its very hard not to buy the bullshit of Hogan & Bischoff when they are sitting acrosss a table from you. Say what you want, but those are two very charasmatic and convincing bullshitters. Bischoff could sell ice to eskimos.

I'm sure if she ever met Gabe f'n Sapolsky, with his short pudgy physique, mop top hair, untied adidas, sloppy clothes that don't fit, and giant Jillian Hall mole, it wouldnt/didnt inspire confidence.

But I guess it would to help to at least follow the business you're in.

I'm a bit of a Hogan mark, myself...but I follow the business.

Would I listen to Hogan and Bischoff...sure. Would they get a mile long leash to run my company? No.

Dixie is a mark or a ring rat, or both...TNA will go no where with her making the major decisions about who is to run her dad's company.