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The General Wrestling Thread

SHOGUN said:
Question: Is it more impressive to be a 8-time champion with short reigns or say a 3-time champion with lengthy title reigns?

I ask this because Jay Lethal's whole gimmick is that he wins the X-Division belt, someone new feuds with him and takes the belt a month later, then he spends the next month getting it back. Rinse and repeat.
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More reigns always looks more impressive on paper. But clearly not every reign is equal in terms of value. Just like Triple H being a 13-time world champion or Edge being a 10-time champion is not as impressive as Ric Flair's 16 reigns, for various reasons.

BTW, Jay Lethal is Reason # 9471 that TNA fucking sucks. They spend how much time last year building him up into a legit fan favorite by having him feud with Flair, allowing him to segue perfectly away from the "mimmicking" gimmick and how do they have it pay off? By shoving him right back into the X Division so he can feud with a pop culture ripoff gimmick that no one seems to give a shit about.
 
SHOGUN said:
Question: Is it more impressive to be a 8-time champion with short reigns or say a 3-time champion with lengthy title reigns?

I ask this because Jay Lethal's whole gimmick is that he wins the X-Division belt, someone new feuds with him and takes the belt a month later, then he spends the next month getting it back. Rinse and repeat.
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Very few titles mean anything in pro wrestling these days.

In the US, I would say that ROH has protected their titles well, and ROH title changes still mean something.

TNA titles are utterly worthless, abused beyond repair.

The two WWE world titles have been protected better lately, but all of the secondary titles are worthless, because the various champions aren't slotted any better than non champions, and are in many cases jobbers themselves.

Title reigns pre Monday Night Wars meant something, because even the secondary titles were put on people expected to draw. WWE would have three tours at once, all headlined by the three champions (World, IC, Tag), so the secondary belts were tools used to draw. World champions were chosen because they were the legitimate biggest star in the territory and the best draws. When the champ stopped drawing, they moved on to the next guy. That obviously isn't the case anymore. Now title changes are all about being used for tv angles and less about passing the torch or maximizing your best draw.

Japan has seen more frequent title changes, but that's more because they have had ttrouble finding/creating new stars, and promotions have been impatient when champs don't move the needle right away. But generally, title changes are still a big deal, and things like length of title reigns and number of successful defenses still matter and are pushed.

Mexico is a clusterfuck, always has been, and always will. They have a million titles, and none of them mean a thing for business or otherwise. That's just the culture. Its about characters and masks/hair, not chasing titles.
 
As we spoke about before...titles are now just props, they aren't actually deserved items for recognizing how good you are to and for the company, they are props to try and get you over...in the E, anyway.
 
The "title chase", and title matches in general, are the easiest and most simplistic way to draw money in wrestling, yet WWE & TNA have even managed to destroy that time tested method of easy booking. It's mind boggling.

For example, not so long ago, title belts were protected in ways that people don't even think about today. The title holder would handle the belt gently, treating it like it really was worth tens of thousands of dollars and was a precious commodity. Before a title defense, often times the champion would pause, hold the belt, and cautiously hand it to a ring attendant, with a look on his face that said "I hope this isnt the last time I hand it over". The only time this is done today, is when a guy is about to lose the title, and this always gives the result away (the famous "im losing the belt tonight" face that pouty mark bitches like HBK & Batista always do).

Attacking an opponent with the belt was unheard of, or a gimmick used so sparingly, it would get over like a mothefucker. Now guys use title belts as weapons just as frequently as chairs or tables.

Champions would proudly wear a title at all times, either around their waist, or over their shoulder. Now, you often see guys dragging the belt by the strap, like a leash. Or Giant Bernard, who wears the IWGP tag title around his fucking neck like a collar.

All of these things seem small, but years of disrespecting the physical title belt educates the audience that the titles arent important just as much as the frequent title changes and champions treated as jobbers. It's these subtle mannerisms and details that make all the difference. Watch how Harley Race or Ric Flair (in the 70's and 80's) or Ricky Steamboat or Jack Briscoe or Mitsuhara Misawa or Tatsumi Fujinami held their title belts like they were holding a baby. Do you think Misawa would ever strike an opponent with his title, or nonchalantly drag it to the ring, and toss it to the outside like a piece of garbage? This stuff matters.
 
Because its a prop...sometimes another character in the program. But never something that is to be valued.

The WWE wants you to value the WWE brand, nothing inside or outside of it.

TNA is just, just fucking stupid.
 
Regarding Nigel McGuiness, just read a report from PWI that said he's healthy and has been at the last few Impact tapings but just isn't being used.

Spoilers for those tapings seem to indciate they are doing some of "they" storyline. Again.

Also read they might be bringing back the Main Event Mafia to fight Fortune. So... yeah...
 
Bigpapa42 said:
Regarding Nigel McGuiness, just read a report from PWI that said he's healthy and has been at the last few Impact tapings but just isn't being used.

Spoilers for those tapings seem to indciate they are doing some of "they" storyline. Again.

Also read they might be bringing back the Main Event Mafia to fight Fortune. So... yeah...
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Awesome.

I'd watch.

lmfao.
 
Scott Steiner was apparently backstage/in the hallway/standing outside the production building at the last TNA taping.

Sooo.... yeeeah... have fun with that.
 
In typical TNA fashion, the MEM was a pretty decent idea that was poorly executed as time went on and then had absolutely no payoff. It elevated no one. Great work, that. Definitely worth bringing back.

Fucking idiots.

On to wrestling that doesn't suck... Found a DVD set of the best 100 matches of New Japan in the 1980s. Part of a project that Ditch and a few other puro fans did, apparently. Its only $45.
 
It should've been used to propel a lot of younger guys beating the older "MAIN EVENT" guys.

Unfortunately they won all the belts and beat everyone in sight and then it was over.
 
Bigpapa42 said:
In typical TNA fashion, the MEM was a pretty decent idea that was poorly executed as time went on and then had absolutely no payoff. It elevated no one. Great work, that. Definitely worth bringing back.

Fucking idiots.

On to wrestling that doesn't suck... Found a DVD set of the best 100 matches of New Japan in the 1980s. Part of a project that Ditch and a few other puro fans did, apparently. Its only $45.
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Match list?

I've got origfinal copies of the old "History of the IWGP Title" and "History of the IWGP Jr Title". Each set is like 7 volumes, but most of the matches are clipped. Tremendous stuff, but id like to see those matches unclipped.
 
Shane Helms and Chris Jericho Argue over Shawn Michaels WWE Hall of Fame

Starting with Shane Helms:

“The HOF is great but I take more pride & comfort in the fact that I’ve never “screwjobbed” ANYONE in life or the biz! $$$ isn’t everything.”

Chris Jericho also tweeted, stating this:

“Shawn Michaels was my favorite opponent & is the greatest performer of all time.”

Helms then replied to Jericho and went off:

“BS! Flair did more & got more people over.”

“If u got something to say, say it public. Enough ass-kissing. He wasn’t the greatest when he was cussing u out in catering.”

“Flair got over people that absolutely SUCKED!! Shawn hadn’t gotten over anyone but himself in the last decade !! ”

“I’m sorry being honest comes off bad on Twitter, I’m not hating, I’m stating FACTS!! Facts that I would swear by on my life.”

“And wearing a cross doesn’t make u right. Hitler wore one too! Don’t be FOOLED by a TV persona!! I’m always honest. NO ONE can accuse me.”

“If the truth hurts and makes u think differently of me, ur entitled to that. No apologies necessary on either side, we’re all just people.”

“But ignorance is bliss and I’m not gonna lie to my fans just to sell T-shirts. Wrestling talent is not what I was talking about!!!”

“If being a good “sports entertainer” means more to you than being a decent person, then hate on! I’d rather have friends and family.”
 
Warner2BruceTD said:
Match list?

I've got origfinal copies of the old "History of the IWGP Title" and "History of the IWGP Jr Title". Each set is like 7 volumes, but most of the matches are clipped. Tremendous stuff, but id like to see those matches unclipped.
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Don't have yet. Its a project Ditch (my main puro source) helped with. I would hope most of the matches are unclipped. I was actually looking at that IWGP history DVD set and saw every match was clipped.

Think I would actually prefer teh All Japan one, though I'd probalby already have almost all of the matches. A top 100 of AJPW for the 90s would be amazing.
 
So far as I can gather, this is the match list (the points is for the voting that decided):

 
1. 5-on-5 Gauntlet Challenge (4/19/84) = 7807 points
2. Andre the Giant vs. Stan Hansen (9/23/81) = 7726 points
3. Tatsumi Fujinami, Keiichi Yamada, Shiro Koshinaka, Yoshiaki Fujiwara & Kengo Kimura vs. Hiro Saito, Kuniaki Kobayashi, Super Strong Machine, Masa Saito & Riki Choshu (9/12/88) = 7535 points
4. Antonio Inoki, Tatsumi Fujinami, Kengo Kimura, Umanosuke Ueda & Kantaro Hoshino vs. Akira Maeda, Yoshiaki Fujiwara, Osamu Kido, Nobuhiko Takada & Kazuo Yamazaki (3/26/86) = 7531 points
5. Riki Choshu vs. Yoshiaki Fujiwara (6/9/87) = 7224 points
6. Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Akira Maeda (6/12/86) = 6914 points
7. Jushin Liger vs. Naoki Sano (8/10/89) = 6867 points
8. 5-on-5 Challenge (5/1/86) = 6862 points
9. Andre the Giant vs. Killer Khan (4/1/82) = 6824 points
10. Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Riki Choshu (4/3/83) = 6659 points
11. Inoki/Fujiwara/Sakaguchi/Hoshino/Mutoh vs. Fujinami/Choshu/Maeda/Kimura/Super Strong Machine (8/19/87) = 6591 points
12. Riki Choshu & Masa Saito vs. George Takano & Super Strong Machine (3/16/89) = 6516 points
13. Antonio Inoki vs. Yoshiaki Fujiwara (2/6/86) = 6510 points
14. Tatsumi Fujinami, Nobuhiko Takada, Riki Choshu, Akira Maeda & Super Strong Machine vs. Antonio Inoki, Dick Murdoch, Yoshiaki Fujiwara, Masa Saito & Seiji Sakaguchi (9/17/87) = 6399 points
15. Shinya Hashimoto vs. Vader (4/24/89) = 6370 points
16. Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Riki Choshu (8/4/83) = 6352 points
17. Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Riki Choshu (4/21/83) = 6316 points
18. Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Kengo Kimura (1/2/87) = 6283 points
19. Riki Choshu vs. Big Van Vader (6/27/89) = 6154 points
20. Tatsumi Fujinami & Antonio Inoki vs. Dick Murdoch & Adrian Adonis (12/7/84) = 6117 points
21. Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Riki Choshu (7/7/83) = 6083 points
22. Antonio Inoki vs. Masa Saito (4/27/87) = 6025 points
23. Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Dynamite Kid (2/5/80) = 5991 points
24. Akira Maeda vs. Yoshiaki Fujiwara (2/5/86) = 5939 points
25. Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Vader (4/24/89) = 5839 points

26. Antonio Inoki vs. Dick Murdoch (6/19/86) = 5734 points
27. Shinya Hashimoto vs. Victor Zangiev (4/24/89) = 5732 points
28. Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Kengo Kimura (9/25/80) = 5729 points
29. Akira Maeda vs. Yoshiaki Fujiwara (1/10/86) = 5686 points
30. Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Riki Choshu (6/24/88) = 5537 points
31. Nobuhiko Takada & Akira Maeda vs. Yoshiaki Fujiwara & Kazuo Yamazaki (5/25/87) = 5421 points
32. Antonio Inoki vs. Yoshiaki Fujiwara (6/12/86) = 5388 points
33. Antonio Inoki, Riki Choshu & Kantaro Hoshino vs. Scott Hall, Bob Orton & Dick Murdoch (11/17/88) = 5281 points
34. Riki Choshu & Takayuki Iizuka vs. Super Strong Machine & George Takano (7/13/89) = 5211 points
35. Antonio Inoki vs. Vader (7/29/88) = 5204 points
36. Riki Choshu vs. Shinya Hashimoto (12/7/89) = 5188 points
37. Antonio Inoki vs. Stan Hansen (4/3/80) = 5151 points
38. Nobuhiko Takada vs. Hiro Hase (3/11/88) = 5125 points
39. Jushin Liger & Akira Nogami vs. Kantaro Hoshino & Naoki Sano (8/8/89) = 5110 points
40. Antonio Inoki vs. Riki Choshu (2/22/89) = 5091 points
41. Akira Maeda vs. Yoshiaki Fujiwara (8/29/87) = 5029 points
42. Antonio Inoki vs. Stan Hansen (9/11/80) = 4940 points
43. Tatsumi Fujinami, Akira Maeda & Kengo Kimura vs. Riki Choshu, Yoshiaki Yatsu & Animal Hamaguchi (12/8/83) = 4927 points
44. Jushin Liger vs. Naoki Sano (7/13/89) = 4903 points
45. Tatsumi Fujinami & Kengo Kimura vs. Antonio Inoki & Seiji Sakaguchi (12/12/85) = 4892 points
46. Akira Maeda & Nobuhiko Takada vs. Yoshiaki Fujiwara & Kazuo Yamazaki (9/1/87) = 4875 points
47. Kengo Kimura vs. Masa Saito (NJ TV 6/10/87) = 4837 points
48. Yoshiaki Fujiwara & Antonio Inoki vs. Akira Maeda & Tatsumi Fujinami (9/7/87) = 4822 points
49. Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Riki Choshu (5/27/88) = 4739 points
50. Akira Nogami, Tatsutoshi Goto, Keiichi Yamada, Kantaro Hoshino & Shiro Koshinaka vs. Kuniaki Kobayashi, Hiroshi Hase, Hiro Saito, Norio Honaga & Kensuke Sasaki (4/27/88) = 4689 points

51. Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Riki Choshu (9/21/83) = 4673 points
52. Dick Murdoch & Antonio Inoki vs. Yoshiaki Fujiwara & Masa Saito (12/4/87) = 4671 points
53. Nobuhiko Takada & Akira Maeda vs. Keiji Mutoh & Shiro Koshinaka (3/20/87) = 4623 points
54. Tatsumi Fujinami & Kengo Kimura vs. Antonio Inoki & Seiji Sakaguchi (12/6/85) = 4601 points
55. Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Isamu Teranishi (10/8/81) = 4585 points
56. Kengo Kimura vs. Yoshiaki Fujiwara (5/16/86) = 4552 points
57. Riki Choshu, Jushin Liger & Kengo Kimura vs. Big Van Vader, Manny Fernandez & Buzz Sawyer (8/3/89) = 4534 points
58. Tatsumi Fujinami & Akira Maeda vs. Riki Choshu & Higo Hamaguchi (12/2/83) = 4527 points
59. Jushin Liger vs. Kantaro Hoshino (8/5/89) = 4484 points
60. Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Kengo Kimura (1/14/87) = 4464 points
61. Yoshiaki Fujiwara vs. Don Nakaya Nielsen (7/29/88) = 4446 points
62. Bob Backlund vs. Stan Hansen (9/30/80) = 4438 points
63. Big Van Vader vs. Salman Hashimikov (7/13/89) = 4422 points
64. Riki Choshu vs. Yoshiaki Fujiwara (6/29/87) = 4421 points
65. Tatsumi Fujinami, Kengo Kimura, Kantaro Hoshino, George Takano & Shiro Koshinaka vs. Akira Maeda, Yoshiaki Fujiwara, Osamu Kido, Nobuhiko Takada & Kazuo Yamazaki (9/16/86) = 4371 points
66. Hulk Hogan vs. Antonio Inoki (IWGP League Final) (6/2/83) = 4351 points
67. Antonio Inoki vs. Stan Hansen (2/8/80) = 4238 points
68. Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Dick Murdoch (7/6/82) = 4236 points
69. Tiger Mask vs. Steven Wright (4/1/82) = 4227 points
70. Keiichi Yamada vs. Shunji Kosugi (4/18/85) = 4206 points
71. Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Vader (6/26/88) = 4157 points
72. Antonio Inoki, Akira Maeda & Yoshiaki Fujiwara vs. Riki Choshu, Yoshiaki Yatsu & Animal Hamaguchi, (2/9/84) = 4096 points
73. Tiger Mask vs. Gran Hamada (11/6/81) = 4057 points
74. Antonio Inoki vs. Riki Choshu (2/4/88) = 4054 points
75. Akira Nogami vs. Naoki Sano (8/31/89) = 4010 points

76. Tatsutoshi Goto, Masa Saito, Seiji Sakaguchi vs. Scott Hall, Bob Orton & Dick Murdoch (12/7/88) = 3989 points
77. Antonio Inoki & Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Andre the Giant & Rene Goulet (12/10/81) = 3976 points
78. Antonio Inoki vs. Stan Hansen (4/23/81) = 3974 points
79. Antonio Inoki vs. Dick Murdoch (12/10/85) = 3930 points
80. Kengo Kimura & Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Yoshiaki Fujiwara & Masa Saito (12/7/87) = 3929 points
81. Keiichi Yamada vs. Hiro Hase (2/4/88) = 3913 points
82. Tatsumi Fujinami, Kengo Kimura, & Shiro Koshinaka vs. Akira Maeda, Nobuhiko Takada, & Yoshiaki Fujiwara (3/7/86) = 3894 points
83. Tatsumi Fujinami & Kengo Kimura vs. Dick Murdoch & Adrian Adonis (5/24/85) = 3878 points
84. Antonio Inoki, Riki Choshu & Kantaro Hoshino vs. Tatsutoshi Goto, Masa Saito & Seiji Sakaguchi (12/5/88) = 3871 points
85. The Cobra vs. Don Arakawa (8/1/85) = 3869 points
86. Tiger Mask, Antonio Inoki & Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Baby Face, Dynamite Kid & Abdullah the Butcher (1/8/82) = 3863 points
87. Gran Hamada vs. Babyface (4/3/80) = 3849 points
88. Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Killer Khan (11/3/83) = 3834 points
89. Tiger Mask vs. Kuniaki Kobayashi (1/6/83) = 3833 points
90. Antonio Inoki & Keiichi Yamada vs. Nobuhiko Takada & Osamu Kido (2/5/86) = 3776 points
91. Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Tony Rocco (9/11/80) = 3742 points
92. Tiger Mask vs. Kuniaki Kobayashi (11/4/82) = 3701 points
93. Antonio Inoki vs. Riki Choshu (5/18/84) = 3696 points
94. Riki Choshu, Super Strong Machine & Kuniaki Kobayashi vs. Yoshiaki Fujiwara, Osamu Kido & Nobuhiko Takada (6/12/87) = 3689 points
95. Tiger Mask & Kantaro Hoshino vs. Kuniaki Kobayashi & Gran Hamada (2/10/83) = 3686 points
96. Tatsumi Fujinami & Kantaro Hoshino vs. Dynamite Kid & Steve Keirn (1/18/80) = 3655 points
97. Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Vader (4/27/88) = 3606 points
98. Nobuhiko Takada vs. Shiro Koshinaka (2/5/87) = 3592 points
99. Keiichi Yamada vs. Shiro Koshinaka (12/9/88) = 3573 points
100. Gran Hamada, Kantaro Hoshino & Tiger Mask vs. Missionaries De La Muerte (1/14/83) = 3556 points
 
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