The General Wrestling Thread

[SHOGUN]

Mr. Kennedy is officially a victim of TNA Malaise. Ever since he's got lost in the shuffle story-wise, he's gotten fatter (doing the ol' wrestling with a t-shirt trick) and looks dirty as shit. Even his mic work has fallen off.

 

[EmpireWF]

Mr. Kennedy is officially a victim of TNA Malaise. Ever since he's got lost in the shuffle story-wise, he's gotten fatter (doing the ol' wrestling with a t-shirt trick) and looks dirty as shit. Even his mic work has fallen off.

He was never good to begin with.

Well, I'll take that back somewhat. He was good to a degree when he got his first big break on Smackdown...then injuries fucked up his career.

 

[s@ppisgod]

I was just thinking the other day about how Anderson fell off. They just really don't know how to try and push more than one guy at a time. And they screw that one push up too. They really just need to shut it down at this point.

Also, since mentioning Berlyn, I can't get it out of my head. Was he supposed to be a Nazi or the WCW's answer to Ivan Drago? Did he do the Alex Wright dance during this run? How much did that haircut cost? I wish WCW was still alive, I still have so many questions...
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[SHOGUN]

He was never good to begin with.

Well, I'll take that back somewhat. He was good to a degree when he got his first big break on Smackdown...then injuries fucked up his career.

I really liked Anderson because he was charismatic as hell and was good on the mic. His ring work is average at best on a good day, so if he's not allowed to use his charisma he's pretty much a dud.

 

[EmpireWF]

Also, since mentioning Berlyn, I can't get it out of my head. Was he supposed to be a Nazi or the WCW's answer to Ivan Drago? Did he do the Alex Wright dance during this run? How much did that haircut cost? I wish WCW was still alive, I still have so many questions...

:rofl:

 

[SHOGUN]

I remember the Glacier hype videos. My cousin and I used to be so excited for Glacier, only for him to be on Nitro for a few weeks and then disappeared. His ring entrance was so epic at the time.

 

[SHOGUN]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxFh4eAGSpU"]The Best Dance EVER!!!! - YouTube[/ame]

 

[EmpireWF]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zASL2KYKRQ"]WCW: Tank Abbott Displays His Singing Talent - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

:yao: @ Tank. My lawd...

 

[s@ppisgod]

I remember the Glacier hype videos. My cousin and I used to be so excited for Glacier, only for him to be on Nitro for a few weeks and then disappeared. His ring entrance was so epic at the time.

Glacier actually had a ton of momentum coming in. Even though he was a rip-off of Sub-Zero, nobody seemed to care. And the enterance was awesome. It's a goddamn snowstorm indoors. But he sucked in the ring and it took all the wind out of his sails. If only he would have used the uppercut more, from one knee, with the blood on. And a feud with Motaro (played by Mantaur).

Also, I remember the 3 count song. What an awful, awful time in that company. They were pretty good in the ring, as were the Jung Dragons.
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[IamMedellin]

Daniel Bryan

 

just got Jericho'd

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbC06eQS_ww"]Chris Jericho wins the WWF Title from HHH. - YouTube[/ame]


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSrUjlleU0Y"]Triple H gets his title back from Jericho WWF RAW 4/17/00 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[s@ppisgod]

I saw that. I don't ever watch SD since Edge retired, and only sparingly before that. But it's clear the WWE has screwed up the MITB. They've gotten to the point that they screw around with it so much that it's not the "shit your pants" moment that it was when Edge cashed it in on Cena at New Years Revolution 06. Them screwing around with it every 2 weeks with Miz last year really killed the effect of the winner coming out. It's a tease that, if used only a few times, works well. But doing it more than once or twice is overkill. It's lazy. If they wanted to spice it up, have someone lose with it. That's a surprise. Not the bait and switch of "title shot...not really" "title change...not really."
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[SHOGUN]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LKb9j7gxQ8"]Daniel Bryan Wins World Heavyweight Championship (Full Segment) WWE SmackDown 11/25/11 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[EmpireWF]

Smackdown live Tuesday -- Danielson vs. Henry in a cage for the belt

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I hate the Big Show KO punch finisher. The psychology is all wrong. It's just a punch to the face. It requires no setting up or weakening of your opponent to do it, so why doesn't he just punch the guy as soon as the match starts?

 

[FedEx227]

Wonder if we get a Daniel Bryan heel turn as a result?

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I hate the Big Show KO punch finisher. The psychology is all wrong. It's just a punch to the face. It requires no setting up or weakening of your opponent to do it, so why doesn't he just punch the guy as soon as the match starts?

I like the finisher...they just do it wrong.

A punch from a 7-foot-something, 500-pound dude that has "trained in boxing" when he gives a guy a clean, flush shot, should be dropped.

They just put no actual effort into the details of a match in the WWE, so shit like that gets lost.

If he connects with it, a guy should be lights out, but a lot should go into that punch connecting. Because he's so big and slow, the punch should be slow and opponents should often be able to get out of the way.

But, Show just gives a quick jab and the world's strongest man is dropped like a bad habit.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

TNA is where wrestlers go to retire.

Just look at their damn roster...the whole damn roster is filled with dudes who are mailing it in and just collecting checks lol.

Next to join the mix in 60 days...John Hennigan.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I like the finisher...they just do it wrong.

A punch from a 7-foot-something, 500-pound dude that has "trained in boxing" when he gives a guy a clean, flush shot, should be dropped.

They just put no actual effort into the details of a match in the WWE, so shit like that gets lost.

If he connects with it, a guy should be lights out, but a lot should go into that punch connecting. Because he's so big and slow, the punch should be slow and opponents should often be able to get out of the way.

But, Show just gives a quick jab and the world's strongest man is dropped like a bad habit.

Yeah, that's kinda what i'm saying. The psychology is screwy. It's just a punch in the face. He can do it at any time, SO WHY DOESN'T HE?? In fact, Big Show punches guys in the face routinely all the time during matches. What makes his punch of doom any different from his other punches? Like you said, he does no special 'windup', there is no special angle he throws it from, etc.

I'm probably over analyzing it, but to me it's pretty much the worst finisher around for those reasons.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

AND ANOTHER THING, while I soapbox here...

WWE is a company that is always preaching about psychology, and they act all high and mighty towards indy guys & foreigners who come in about how they just do movez and don't understand psyschology and banish them to FCW...yet you see shit like the Big Show punch.

They talk about 'telling a story', but every 'story' is the same. Babyface is a house of fire, tosses heel from the ring (maybe does a dive for good measure), commercial break....heel in control, long resthold (oops, I mean 'working a body part' and telling a story!)...false comeback, another restho-, I mean, telling a story spot....transition spot, hot babyface comeback, tease the finishers, and either the babyface goes over with his finisher, or the heel cuts him off by doing something dastardly and wins with his finisher (all finishers done while facing the hard camera, of course!). Rinse, repeat.

PSYCHOLOGY. That takes months, if not years, to learn in Florida.