The General Wrestling Thread

[Warner2BruceTD]

Hey biss, how long has Archibald Peck/RD Evans been around for you guys in Anarchy?

There is a debate over on the Meltzer board concerning his rookie status for the 2011 Awards. The standard used is the wrestler could not have debuted prior to September 1, 2010 in a "full time" promotion.

Some are arguing that ACW should count as a "full time promotion", others are not. I assume he's been around since long before 9/1/10 for you guys.

He started with CHIKARA during the voting period, but was with ROH prior to the voting period I believe (although not really as a wrestler, as I don't even recall a single match). Everyone considers those two full time promotions, but it's fuzzy anyway because he isn't really a wrestler for ROH. He would qualify for his CHIKARA work assuming ACW doesn't count. It's a mess.

I guess long story short would be this: a.) Do you consider ACW a "full time promotion", and b.) if so, when did he start?

I think Shiya Hashimoto's kid is going to run away with Rookie of the Year anyway, but there is a lot of support for Archibald Peck, and CHIKARA had a big year so I think he can place pretty high. He is getting a lot of support for "Best Gimmick", too.

 

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

I know you didn't do that shit on Normal, OOBL. :smh:

I'll try it your way tonight but there's no way in hell R-Truth does what he's doing to me on WWE '12 to the real Triple H...

HHH using his front office stroke or not.

No way they do that, and I did do it on normal, when I was talking in CB with you and said turn it to easy I figured I'd give it another shot... You know what actually could of worked better is just sprint right up the ladder as soon as the bell rings. The cutscene will take out a player then it's more managable. If you are pissed at getting your ass beat now just wait. BTW the end of the game is pretty fucking awesome.... the writers for this game have shit all over anything the WWE could come up with by itself.

From what I understand, the story mode is shit and it's the Universe mode with all of the customization that will make or break the game.

Story mode is just that, it embraces the WWE "Story Time" schtick. Actually well written, just the actual interaction and fighting is kept pretty minimal. Universe mode is pretty fucking awesome tho... you make the matches, do the booking, make new stables and factions, decide who is having a conflict with who, decide if you want to run in and disrupt a match halfway through, etc.

I'm pretty fucking pissed that I unlocked the Classic Intercontinental Championship.... and it wasn't the white strap one, it was like the attitude era one :smh:

 

[BigBiss]

Hey biss, how long has Archibald Peck/RD Evans been around for you guys in Anarchy?

There is a debate over on the Meltzer board concerning his rookie status for the 2011 Awards. The standard used is the wrestler could not have debuted prior to September 1, 2010 in a "full time" promotion.

Some are arguing that ACW should count as a "full time promotion", others are not. I assume he's been around since long before 9/1/10 for you guys.

He started with CHIKARA during the voting period, but was with ROH prior to the voting period I believe (although not really as a wrestler, as I don't even recall a single match). Everyone considers those two full time promotions, but it's fuzzy anyway because he isn't really a wrestler for ROH. He would qualify for his CHIKARA work assuming ACW doesn't count. It's a mess.

I guess long story short would be this: a.) Do you consider ACW a "full time promotion", and b.) if so, when did he start?

I think Shiya Hashimoto's kid is going to run away with Rookie of the Year anyway, but there is a lot of support for Archibald Peck, and CHIKARA had a big year so I think he can place pretty high. He is getting a lot of support for "Best Gimmick", too.

If you are counting CHIKARA then i would say we would count aswell, at this point we are top 10 maybe top 5 on Smart mark video. we have not missed a show in our soon to be 5 year history.

Now we get to the fun part on June 2nd of 2009 I called mr Evans to see if he would be intrested in coming to work for us, this was after a years worth of lobbing for him. he told me he would love to be part of the company and asked when the next show was, I told him the next show was june 7th and i didnt expect him to make it on shuch short notice and that i had a opening the next month, he said that was fine he'd be there on the 7th. showed up and debuted with us June 7th 2009 and was likely the most inportant buisness i'v done. he had been around texas since 2004 atleast doing shows for Akbar who trained him and PCW witch was on local TV in Dallas.

 

[IamMedellin]

chris benoit feature film announced

SRG Films has announced that they are adapting Matthew Randazzo's book Ring of Hell: The Story of Chris Benoit and the Fall of the Pro Wrestling Industry into a feature film titled Crossface.

Coming Soon posted a press release that describes Crossface as "a biographical thriller" that "delves into the pressures WWE superstar Chris Benoit faced throughout his wrestling career as the combination of drug-use, depression, and head trauma became increasingly impossible for him to handle. The true story made headline news in 2007 when Chris murdered his wife and young son before taking his own life."

The film's writer, Sarah Coulter, said: "People immediately point to steroids, never thinking about the brain trauma these wrestlers can, and do, incur in their profession, nor do they consider the rigorous schedule that keeps them working even when they shouldn t be. The Benoit story is one that needs to be brought into the light."

Producers are said to be out to directors and actors right now in the hopes of beginning production in late 2012.

http://movies.ign.com/articles/121/1213908p1.html

 

[EmpireWF]

No way is that a feature film. Hell, that Coulter lady's IMDB page lists her only credit as a transcriber for an episode of Iconoclasts three years back.

At least I hope it just goes away never to be heard again.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Made for Lifetime original film!!

 

[EmpireWF]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFN975jVT7o"]Stone Cold Steve Austin v.s. C.M. Punk Promo (HD) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[JayDizzle]

Very... VERY insider stuff but if you're a fan of the behind-the-scenes stuff that goes on on TV, you might dig this:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXPULi8PALI&feature=player_embedded"]Good stuff[/ame]

Top highlights for me so far:
-The guys at the Gorilla Position commenting that a fight in the stands is more entertaining then the Drozdov/Dustin Runnels match in the ring.

Bonus points for cracking wise about the crowd giving Droz a standing ovation.

-The on the spot editing decision to remove the "What"s from the crowd noise during Taker's promo against RVD.

Apparently Lawler made the call. :shifty:

-J.R. and Paul E. comparing notes on Stacy Keibler and Trish Stratus, saying Keibler was hotter... before they get busted by Vince.

 

[EmpireWF]

fun

-That wasn't Gorilla, it was just Cole and Cornette being bored as fuck at ringside during the match, checking out the hot chick and then the crowd fight.

lol

 

[JayDizzle]

There's another one floating around where Vince and one of the staff (I guess a writer) is coaching up Brock Lesnar on how to deliver his big line before his fight with The Rock at SummerSlam.

Something about a "wildline."

It completely destroys the mystique behind how the show's done but if you were one to get into how television is produced, this'd be a good reference.

/nerdy excitement

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Very... VERY insider stuff but if you're a fan of the behind-the-scenes stuff that goes on on TV, you might dig this:

Good stuff

Top highlights for me so far:
-The guys at the Gorilla Position commenting that a fight in the stands is more entertaining then the Drozdov/Dustin Runnels match in the ring.

Bonus points for cracking wise about the crowd giving Droz a standing ovation.

-The on the spot editing decision to remove the "What"s from the crowd noise during Taker's promo against RVD.

Apparently Lawler made the call. :shifty:

-J.R. and Paul E. comparing notes on Stacy Keibler and Trish Stratus, saying Keibler was hotter... before they get busted by Vince.

Good stuff.

There is a lot of this floating around. Back in this era, people with those old school giant sat dishes were able to hijack the live signal from both the Smackdown tapings and the live RAW's. "Early" Smackdown's were a hot commodity, because they would have all of the unedited botches and shit, plus the commentary was very raw because they knew they could voice over anything they didn't like.

At some point either the WWE wised up or the technology advanced, and they went to a closed sat signal.

 

[EmpireWF]

There was one video of Cole and Lawler (I think on SD) during breaks in the show talking about all the chicks they could spot. I'll see if it's still around somewhere....

Cole, King and JR cracking jokes about Chimel at about 5 minutes on this one was hilarious

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFJSAXOBFnw"]Off The Air - The Footage They Didn't Want You To See #1 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[BigBiss]

man this is crap

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I don't care what any of ya'll say...

Fucking Johnny Ace saying "And I'd like to wish John Morrison all the best in his future endeavors" during his promo had me in tears it was so ridiculous.

 

[StealthShot]

Was just watching this crap the WCW pulled way back.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGUJYLDgR8k&noredirect=1"]wrestlings worst moment ever - YouTube[/ame]

 

[EmpireWF]

In the newest newsletter, Meltzer says the plans for WWE network is to move all but 4 or 5 PPVs to the network. The major ones including Rumble, WM, Summerslam and perhaps Survivor Series would remain on PPV.

So, by 2013 and beyond, the odds are the UFC will be the only PPV entity running regularly every month (and even more when they run multiple shows inside of 4 weeks).

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

So...basically Clash of the Champions every month?

Too expensive, too many, too over saturated of a product on free TV in the first place.

UFC is having the same problem selling PPVs...market is stale.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

In the newest newsletter, Meltzer says the plans for WWE network is to move all but 4 or 5 PPVs to the network. The major ones including Rumble, WM, Summerslam and perhaps Survivor Series would remain on PPV.

So, by 2013 and beyond, the odds are the UFC will be the only PPV entity running regularly every month (and even more when they run multiple shows inside of 4 weeks).

So...basically Clash of the Champions every month?

Too expensive, too many, too over saturated of a product on free TV in the first place.

UFC is having the same problem selling PPVs...market is stale.

It's a great idea.

I think what they will do, is offer the B shows on PPV and the network for the first year or so, pushing the idea that you can see the PPV's for free if your cable/sat company picks up the network.

The B-shows are the big ticket events they need to build the network around.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Gimme B shows + their library of old footage and that's the best channel on TV.

Gimme their library of old footage and its still the best channel on TV.

 

[EmpireWF]

Don't forget the new reality shows they'll have.

Old timers living in a house, Mrs. Big Show cooking....