The General Wrestling Thread

[Kuzzy Powers]

All these guys have had tons of "themes". But they're usually just variations of each other, with minor changes.

 

[FedEx227]

Dolph has like 8-9 I believe.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

They keep fucking with Ziggler...every time he gets hot or in a groove with a "character" despite his awful name, they fuck it up. and alter it slightly to make it kinda corny.

"The Heel" Dolph Ziggler kinda fit him perfect...then the change him up to "The Show Off"
Then they changed his hair cut and theme prior to that.

Eh, dude has all kinds of talent despite being given an awful name...one of their better mid-card workers, which is a breath of fresh air since he came out of WWE Developmental.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

'Dolph Ziggler' sounds like a 50's Nazi inspired heel, the kind of guy who would team with Fritz Von Erich and take all of the pins. Then he would go to a new terriory, drop the Nazi persona, and become "The Grappler" Billy Watson or something.

 

[EmpireWF]

'Dolph Ziggler' sounds like a 50's Nazi inspired heel, the kind of guy who would team with Fritz Von Erich and take all of the pins. Then he would go to a new terriory, drop the Nazi persona, and become "The Grappler" Billy Watson or something.

I guess they have it ass backwards since he started as Chavo's caddy, switched to NICKY and morphed into Dolph.

 

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

So, any of you mopes going to WRRRRRRESSSSTLEEEEMANIA?!

Like the one in Orlando a few years back, gonna make a weekend out of it. ROH and DGUSA will surely be running ridiculous cards.

Anyone else going to be there?

I would like to, have been talking about it but dont see myself getting the funds

They keep fucking with Ziggler...every time he gets hot or in a groove with a "character" despite his awful name, they fuck it up. and alter it slightly to make it kinda corny.

"The Heel" Dolph Ziggler kinda fit him perfect...then the change him up to "The Show Off"
Then they changed his hair cut and theme prior to that.

Eh, dude has all kinds of talent despite being given an awful name...one of their better mid-card workers, which is a breath of fresh air since he came out of WWE Developmental.

#HEEL was cool

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

McMahon despises the words "heel" & "babyface", so it probably took the senile bastard a few weeks to realize what Ziggler was calling himself.

Amazong to me that CM Punk has somehow gotten away with calling himself "best WRESTLER in the world", but maybe the Triple H influence is starting to take hold and they just keep 'pop' in catering for 3 hours and tell him Mason Ryan is getting the big push.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I can definitely see McMahon having no idea he was calling himself "#HEEL" for weeks...then one day, he's in the gorilla position and he just happens to be watching this match and catches a glace at his tights.

Three weeks later, he catches Ziggler walking around backstage calls him over...

"Does that say HEEL on your tights?"
"Yeah."
"We got to get rid of that."
"Vince, I've been using these tights for the past month and a half...hell, my Twitter name is HEELZiggler...I thought it'd be cool since I'm always a bad guy and all"
"We got to get rid of that...why don't you try 'THE SHOW MAN!!'"
"Vince, that's awful."

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

haha THE SHOW MAN. I can totally see it.


'This isn't southern wrasslin' kid. You are now...THE SHOW MAN'.

 

[FedEx227]

This is the same guy that got pissed when he saw Zack Ryder wearing a shirt about spiking his hair and said "SPIKE?! Are we promoting the network the other company is on?". Shit disappeared a few days later.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

This is the same guy that got pissed when he saw Zack Ryder wearing a shirt about spiking his hair and said "SPIKE?! Are we promoting the network the other company is on?". Shit disappeared a few days later.

HOLY SHIT, I forgot about that one.

And the man is a MASSIVE success. It's really amazing.

 

[Derrville]

Ziggler said the spike thing or Ryder?

 

[EmpireWF]

Ziggler said the spike thing or Ryder?

Ryder's thing is 'take care, spike your hair'

 

[FedEx227]

Ryder had a shirt that said "Don't care spike your hair" or something and Vince blew his shit because he thought they were promoting THAT network that airs THAT promotion.

 

[FedEx227]

HOLY SHIT, I forgot about that one.

And the man is a MASSIVE success. It's really amazing.

The more and more I think about it he basically got lucky with Hulk Hogan, Stone Cold, The Rock and Mike Tyson.

 

[Derrville]

Oh haha

Pumped for Impact tonight in a real arena with real fans. TNA cant leave the impact zone soon enough.

 

[EmpireWF]

The more and more I think about it he basically got lucky with Hulk Hogan, Stone Cold, The Rock and Mike Tyson.

You could always have the chicken & egg type argument with Hogan and Austin. Did they make Vince or did he make them.

I won't say he got lucky with Rock or Tyson. Rock was always pegged as being a future superstar.....and Tyson, it cost him $3 mil to bring him in. There were people who felt it was a terrible move...lol.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

You could always have the chicken & egg type argument with Hogan and Austin. Did they make Vince or did he make them.

I won't say he got lucky with Rock or Tyson. Rock was always pegged as being a future superstar.....and Tyson, it cost him $3 mil to bring him in. There were people who felt it was a terrible move...lol.

Hogan was an international star long before Vince lured him from Gagne. Vince pushed him to another level that I don't think Gagne would have been capable of, because only Vince had designs of going national. With that said, somebody was eventually going to split from the establishment, exploit cable, and make a go of it (Joe Blanchard actually tried it first, as a lot of people forget that he was on USA Network long before WWF).

Vince had no faith in Austin, to the point they hated his promos so much that they wouldn't let him talk. Austin largely made his own break by creating the Stone Cold character (basically because the office didn't care because he was just a mid carder), and cutting the 3:16 promo. But if you remember, it still took months for them to get behind him. Eventually, they had no choice, he got over on his own.

I will give them credit for The Rock, who they found (well, he came to them) and developed, but even with The Rock they misread the fans and tried to push him as a smiling cornball babyface. If he hadn't been persistent, he might have quit (think: Maven, Lashley for examples).

 

[dave]

'Dolph Ziggler' sounds like a 50's Nazi inspired heel, the kind of guy who would team with Fritz Von Erich and take all of the pins. Then he would go to a new terriory, drop the Nazi persona, and become "The Grappler" Billy Watson or something.

I think his name is one of the biggest things holding him back. It's time for a change.
Maybe he could go all bad-ass and off-script and tell the WWE types what to do with his slave name ... and come out with a new slave name.

 

[EmpireWF]

Hogan was an international star long before Vince lured him from Gagne. Vince pushed him to another level that I don't think Gagne would have been capable of, because only Vince had designs of going national. With that said, somebody was eventually going to split from the establishment, exploit cable, and make a go of it (Joe Blanchard actually tried it first, as a lot of people forget that he was on USA Network long before WWF).

Another interesting thing to debate is whether they would have gotten as hot as they did in the 80s if Hogan didn't have Piper to play off of.