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Short Answer?

Fuck'em for not knowing any better and not making the effort to try to learn how much better things are other than Cena as the Champ, squashing all before him.

Longer Answer?

Nobody but old-heads, geezers and nerds respect the tradition of pro-wrestling since the NWA/WCW days and as a result, you have an entire generation that don't know anything before the 2000's when Vince bought his rival out.

All the younger audience knows is to cheer for Cena the Hero and to boo his opponent, even if they're better than him in the ring.

When Punk looses his title at NoC because the writers are too trigger-happy let him keep the WWE title beyond Cena's longest reign, nobody worthwhile is going to remember how awesome it was to see a fighting champion and how long the Company let him run with the ball.

They'll just be placated by Captain Vanilla.
 
You Knew It Couldn't Last by Mark Madden

Impact had a (very) brief renaissance. Plenty of action and character development. Austin Aries became a star. Bully Ray became a big-league heel. The Aces & Eights story arc added just the right kind of intrigue.

But now things are back to square one. Impact was building toward Roode vs. Storm, the money match, but seems so far away from that now. The Aces & Eights angle became flat-out silly on this week’s TV. How many people are in Aces & Eights? It looked like there were HUNDREDS. It reminded me of all those Black Scorpions hitting the ring in 1990.

Aces & Eights’ primary weapon is that no one knows who they are, right? Yet, when Hogan bashed a couple with a baseball bat during Impact, immobilizing them and putting them at his mercy, Hogan (and Sting) DID NOT UNMASK THEM. Same with the pier-six brawl that ended the show. No one tried to unmask anyone. In fact, at one point, I swear I saw an Impact wrestler tugging a foe’s camouflaging bandanna BACK IN PLACE.

For any viewer with a modicum of intelligence, fake wrestling needs to be logical. THIS WAS NOT LOGICAL.

They did all that brawling to break Aries’ hand so they could strip him of the title without beating him. Now they can do Roode-Storm for the belt. It’s chintzy and makes minimal sense – not unlike taking your top babyface and casting him in a light where he seems legitimately untrustworthy. I SMELL MONEY!

It was going good. But you knew it couldn’t last.

The Lesnar-HHH PPV match lacked logic, too. IT SUCKED. It was a microcosm of WWE’s misuse of Lesnar: They took one of the best real fighters in the world and put him in a FAKE WRESTLING MATCH. Lesnar-HHH wasn’t as convincing as Lesnar-Cena. It wasn’t even as convincing as Undertaker-HHH, a match featuring A GIMMICK PERFORMER.

No, Lesnar-HHH was just TYPICAL FAKE WRESTLING. There was nothing whatsoever compelling about it. The Kimura is NOT OVER. Why? Because HHH didn’t sell his broken arm the first time around.

If you don’t believe me, perhaps you’ll believe the WWE Universe (gag). This was supposed to be HHH’s GRAND FAREWELL – well, until he comes back, anyway. Here was the crowd's idea of a sendoff: “YOU TAPPED OUT! YOU TAPPED OUT!” HHH is one of the greatest performers in recent WWE history, and a WWE crowd was TAUNTING HIM. They might as well have been telling him to go F himself. THEY GOT IT. THEY KNOW.

I don’t place much blame on Brock. As Bruce Mitchell of PWTorch.com might say, VKM is paying UFC Brock, but insists on using WWE Brock. That’s by way of proving the machine made Brock, just like it made everybody else. But that’s not true. Brock made Brock. His accomplishments span genres. VKM just can’t prove otherwise.

Audience of one, y’all. AUDIENCE OF ONE.

Wrestling blows. I still like C.M. Punk. Impact needs to fire about half the roster. Cut their losses. Run a tighter ship. Does Impact gain even one viewer because Christy Hemme does the ring announcing? Because Earl Hebner screwed Bret a million years ago? Boy, is Ken Anderson mediocre.

The two smartest minds in wrestling are Paul Heyman and Jim Ross. Neither has anything to do with wrestling’s creative process. That tells you all you need to know about wrestling’s priorities as they currently stand.
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Figured my niggas in the Wrestling Thread would appreciate...

I'm moving...and during said move, I'm going through a shit load of boxes. And, what do I find...three boxes full of old wrestling tapes. Lots of taped ECW Hardcore TV, some PPVs, some old Superstation Jim Crockett, and some compilation movies.

A sample:

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Man, I gotta get all of that on DVD at some point.
 
Watching Impact.

Why was Hogan snarling like a dog? How did he KO three men with one swing of the bat? Lol.

If that fat jobber gets a "yes", I give up on GutCheck. The shits.
 
So Mr.Anderson has one match left, and needs 10 points to get into 4th place and make the finals. That means he needs a submission win.

So of course, first chance he gets, he tries for a PIN.

Who the fuck is the agent for this match? Could have told a nice little story here of Anderson trying to submit Bully Ray. Would have felt different. Awful attention to detail. Same story in WWE. If they dont care, neither will the viewer.
 
So Anderson wins, by pinfall, and Taz says "7 points for Anderson! Wow big win!"

Tenay: "A critical 7 points earned here!"

Hes eliminated now, dummies.

Drives me nuts. Stupid.
 
I definitely picked up on that stuff with Anderson on Impact. It was definitely a detail no one picked up on and Taz and Tenay are awful commentators so they didn't pick up on it either.

As for that dude from Gut Check...he is the prime example of a guy they should say three no's to. You really want to promote that guy as TNA quality?

TNA had a miss this week...some real corny shit, some of which made no sense. That Hogan swing of a bat in the general direction of those guys was some of the unintentionally funny shit I've seen in a while in wrestling. So bad. It needs to be a gif.
 
The sound is fucked up, but this is a MOTY contender.

Kota Ibushi vs Kenny Omega, DDT 8/18/12

Download it here: https://rapidshare.com/#!download|462p2|2279545804|IbushivOmega_20120818.ts|546948|0|0 if you want to delay the sound on your player to sync it up. You will enjoy it a million times more.

<iframe frameborder="0" width="480" height="360" src="http://www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/xswt5n_kota-ibushi-c-vs-kenny-omega-ddt-08-18-12_sport"></iframe><br /><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xswt5n_kota-ibushi-c-vs-kenny-omega-ddt-08-18-12_sport" target="_blank">Kota Ibushi (c) vs Kenny Omega - (DDT 08/18/12)</a> <i>by <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/SenorLARIATO" target="_blank">SenorLARIATO</a></i>
 
Vivid Entertainment is promoting two new adult films starring Chyna set to come out next month. The first, scheduled for release on September 4, is a wrestling parody called the Queen of the Ring.
The Sensational She Hulk: A Porn Parody is set for a September 30th release.
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Warner2BruceTD said:
The sound is fucked up, but this is a MOTY contender.

Kota Ibushi vs Kenny Omega, DDT 8/18/12

Download it here: https://rapidshare.com/#!download|462p2|2279545804|IbushivOmega_20120818.ts|546948|0|0 if you want to delay the sound on your player to sync it up. You will enjoy it a million times more.

<iframe frameborder="0" width="480" height="360" src="http://www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/xswt5n_kota-ibushi-c-vs-kenny-omega-ddt-08-18-12_sport"></iframe><br /><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xswt5n_kota-ibushi-c-vs-kenny-omega-ddt-08-18-12_sport" target="_blank">Kota Ibushi (c) vs Kenny Omega - (DDT 08/18/12)</a> <i>by <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/SenorLARIATO" target="_blank">SenorLARIATO</a></i>
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it was mentioned how Kota has become a great worker over the years, give me an athlete who can do cool shit over a big lug any day of the week
 
Warner2BruceTD said:
The sound is fucked up, but this is a MOTY contender.

Kota Ibushi vs Kenny Omega, DDT 8/18/12

Download it here: https://rapidshare.com/#!download|462p2|2279545804|IbushivOmega_20120818.ts|546948|0|0 if you want to delay the sound on your player to sync it up. You will enjoy it a million times more.

<iframe frameborder="0" width="480" height="360" src="http://www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/xswt5n_kota-ibushi-c-vs-kenny-omega-ddt-08-18-12_sport"></iframe><br /><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xswt5n_kota-ibushi-c-vs-kenny-omega-ddt-08-18-12_sport" target="_blank">Kota Ibushi (c) vs Kenny Omega - (DDT 08/18/12)</a> <i>by <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/SenorLARIATO" target="_blank">SenorLARIATO</a></i>
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Great match I really need to watch more Japanese wrestling.

I would love to see Kota Ibushi in the WWE granted they would'nt have any idea what to do with him.
 
BigBiss said:
it was mentioned how Kota has become a great worker over the years, give me an athlete who can do cool shit over a big lug any day of the week
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Yeah man, he has gotten so much better, and was still pretty awesome years ago.

Here's what I wrote in the other thread:

Kota has become a top worker.

He was always a great athlete who did cool movez, but four or five years ago, if you saw one Ibushi match, you saw them all. Now he's much more well rounded. His selling in particular in this match, especially early on, stands out. Now he's a guy that can deliver a legitimate puro main event, but still does a bunch of cool shit, and has even invented a bunch of new moves.

The two big spots, which you will immediately recognize, are scary as fuck, but hey, its his body not mine.
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Anyone think we'll get a re-hash of this on RAW? HHH has been advertised in Milwaukee for RAW and seeing how they want to build up Punk as a mega heel why not have him beat down a already broken HHH? Also why didn't Punk go over in that match?
 
I was looking back at some thoughts on Cena throughout the past full year...

How in the fuck can this guy throw up legitimate F- stinkers against the likes of Kane...Johnny Ace...etc yet have legit classic WWE matches against Punk, Rock, and Lesnar lol.

When he's good, he's fuckin good, but God damn, he can be be the drizzling shits if he's in there with shit.
 
Cena is underrated. He delivers in a big match.

He will never carry shitbag opponents, but I dont care, because i'm not going out of my way to watch Kane matches anyway. That one Kane match (I forget which PPV it was) was beyond bad. Worst MOTY contender bad.
 
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