The General Wrestling Thread

[JayDizzle]

It's an improvement over the Glamour Shots at the Mall they used to take back in the 90s.

"Would you like the Granite background or the flat black when you strike that menacing pose, Mr. IRS?"

On-topic with tonight, I'm not a fan of this "live" interaction on Twitter with RAW.

We all know the match is pre-booked anyway with similar spots, etc. no matter what everyone "picks" but this week?

I gave no shits until Paul Heyman came and got his boy Punk to grab a bite to eat.

 

[EmpireWF]

Lawler is down....something happened

 

[EmpireWF]

Lawler may have been unconscious but they took him away during the match.

He had just worked a match earlier in the show and returned to commentary. During the match, awkward sounds could be heard like someone was having trouble breathing. Then commentary stopped, you could see Cole reaching beneath the table and the guys in the ring stalled and everyone in the crowd was up and staring at the table.

 

[Pills]

Someone said on twitter that he grabbed his arm and collapsed. Sounds like a heart attack. I really hope he's OK.

Cole can't do commentary... completely understandable.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Did he have a heartattack after the match?

 

[Pills]

Did he have a heartattack after the match?

He'd been back at commentary after his match for the Heath Slater/Ryback squash, and was taken out during the tag team match after that.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I'm rewatching the tag match...Lawler is starting to slur his words and shit, jumbling words.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I think Punk's promos in the past few weeks have been en fuego...they are very good.

Cena...he just shits on everything. His comment about Punk wearing the colors of former WWE stars and "stealing" the Macho Man elbow drop are some of the most awful things to say...he buries everything. Punk does those as an homage to these guys he grew up watching and loving...as a heel, he can't come back and say "I respect these guys" while as a heel, he just tears down Bret Hart.

Just another case of Cena burying everything in a fucking promo.

 

[JayDizzle]

After playing online and switching to MNF, I'm now just hearing of this...

I hope the old man's gonna pull through.

 

[Maynard]

Wrestling legend Jerry "The King" Lawler was rushed to the ER tonight after collapsing at a WWE event in Montreal, Quebec ... but is now breathing on his own.

62-year-old Lawler -- who famously battled Andy Kaufman back in the '80s -- was sitting ringside to commentate on a match when he suddenly collapsed.

An emergency response crew rushed to his side and performed CPR on Lawler.

He was rushed to a nearby hospital for treatment. The WWE says Lawler is now breathing on his own.

Lawler had wrestled inside the ring roughly 30 minutes before he collapsed.

Story developing ...

Read more: http://www.tmz.com#ixzz2686zsD4j

 

[s@ppisgod]

I think Punk's promos in the past few weeks have been en fuego...they are very good.

Cena...he just shits on everything. His comment about Punk wearing the colors of former WWE stars and "stealing" the Macho Man elbow drop are some of the most awful things to say...he buries everything. Punk does those as an homage to these guys he grew up watching and loving...as a heel, he can't come back and say "I respect these guys" while as a heel, he just tears down Bret Hart.

Just another case of Cena burying everything in a fucking promo.

Jim Cornette would slap you for blowing off kayfabe that hard. I loathe Cena, and even I think that promo was solid. Entirely too long and one-sided, but it was good at the end. Cena gets over with a good, Canadian crowd. Albeit in cheap, Mick Foley-esque fashion. CM Punk and Cena got a seemingly older crowd to hate Punk. Which is hard because people like him and cheer heels in the WWE routinely. Why not complain about Danielson having an insane heel gimmick when he's really a nice, sensible guy in person? LOLARRY.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Thoughts on Matt Hardy signing with ROH?

I think it's good for both parties. Hardy gets back in a locker room, and probably gets motivated by being the biggest name and a veteran presence. ROH gets a guy who could sell some extra tickets to some new eyeballs that otherwise might not try an ROH show, especially in the Carolinas where ROH runs regularly.

They might as well push him hard, and have him ultimately put over homegrown guys.

 

[dave]

Thoughts on Matt Hardy signing with ROH?

I think it's good for both parties. Hardy gets back in a locker room, and probably gets motivated by being the biggest name and a veteran presence. ROH gets a guy who could sell some extra tickets to some new eyeballs that otherwise might not try an ROH show, especially in the Carolinas where ROH runs regularly.

They might as well push him hard, and have him ultimately put over homegrown guys.

IMO, Matt Hardy has always been the consolation prize where the Hardys are concerned.

High-flyer? No
Brilliant mat worker? No
Great mic worker? No

Hell, that doofus couldn't even cash in on the Edge-Lita thing.

I don't agree with Kevin Nash on the Vanilla Midget thing where some of the guys were concerned, but I absolutely agree with it where Matt Hardy is concerned.

Without his brother, Matt Hardy never, ever gets anywhere.

 

[Loco]

I enjoyed V.1 Matt Hardy he likes pulp in his orange juice!

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Jim Cornette would slap you for blowing off kayfabe that hard. I loathe Cena, and even I think that promo was solid. Entirely too long and one-sided, but it was good at the end. Cena gets over with a good, Canadian crowd. Albeit in cheap, Mick Foley-esque fashion. CM Punk and Cena got a seemingly older crowd to hate Punk. Which is hard because people like him and cheer heels in the WWE routinely. Why not complain about Danielson having an insane heel gimmick when he's really a nice, sensible guy in person? LOLARRY.

The delivery of the promo was solid...the content, on Cena's side, just like The Rock feud, and the brief Lesnar feud...he just shits on everything, doesn't sell anything, and buries everything about the guy. Its the little things, the subtle things...but its fucking awful. As soon as he started trashing Punk's homage to the great's, I tuned out, because it was crap and another cheap way to bury the other guy.

Cena has been doing it for the long time during his promos. It becomes more obvious with each one.

 

[FedEx227]

Sweet article from one of the guys on Voices of Wrestling, Steve Virglio looking at WCW Saturday Night from January 2000.

It was January 2000, and it was the start of a pivotal year for WCW. After this year, business would never be the same for the company as guys like Vince Russo, Eric Bischoff, and others assumed control of the on-air product. The Nitro preceding this episode of Saturday Night saw Terry Funk named WCW commissioner and he immediately appointed Arn Anderson as WCW’s enforcer to deal with the New World Order.

Yeah, two old guys are going to try and control several somewhat younger guys with weapons. Not to mention, this lasted all of a couple weeks, along with the new New World Order. Arn Anderson ended up kidnapped and in the back of the nWo’s car and subsequently was tortured for three days until WCW Thunder. Yes, the announcers indicated he had been tortured the whole time. Also, DDP and Buff Bagwell were mad at each other because DDP thought Buff was trying to hook-up with his wife. WCW was headed into Souled Out with a bunch of lame gimmick matches and dream bouts such as David Flair v. Vampiro. This is the January 8th Saturday Night show, taped January 5th in Rock Hill, SC.

We’ve got a new look for Saturday Night after an apparent few week break along with a danceclub intro. Scott Hudson and Mike Tenay are the announcers. Hudson started off by saying that if the next 51 weeks in WCW are anything like the the first then we are in for a doozy. Who’d have thought Scott Hudson could be so wise?

http://www.voicesofwrestling.com/2012/09/11/wcw-saturday-night-1-8-2000/

 

[EmpireWF]

This note was from a live report sent to the Torch. lol

- No "Goldberg" chants for Ryback tonight; if you could hear some on TV, they were piped in, because I was waiting for it and it never came. He was way over in Montreal - people were chanting "Feed Me More" without provocation.

 

[s@ppisgod]

The delivery of the promo was solid...the content, on Cena's side, just like The Rock feud, and the brief Lesnar feud...he just shits on everything, doesn't sell anything, and buries everything about the guy. Its the little things, the subtle things...but its fucking awful. As soon as he started trashing Punk's homage to the great's, I tuned out, because it was crap and another cheap way to bury the other guy.

Cena has been doing it for the long time during his promos. It becomes more obvious with each one.

Yeah, but if Cena goes out and says he respects Punk, it's the same Cena shit all over again. It doesn't bury Punk, that is a terribly over-used word. It's a jab after his whole Punk has changed when he hasn't done that either. But he's a heel. To paraphrase Zapp Brannigan, he stands for everything we don't stand for. Boo Punk when he uses the flying elbow, because he stole it from Macho Man and he's a bad guy. Mr. Fuji didn't hate America either...probably. When you're talking about such a hard-line kiddie promotion as the WWE, anything bad said about the heels is good and gets them over as bad guys. The older fans are going to be too smart for it and eat Punk up regardless anyway. So what difference does it make? Again, I hate Cena, but it seems like he's damned either way. I don't like any Cena feuds because he takes away from them the minute he comes in the ring, running and smiling and yelling with his cartoon ass making it seem like less of a wrestling feud and more of a high school play. His promo Monday, while entirely too long to the point of me changing back to that shitty MNF game for a couple, went over at the end. Fans behind him, fans against Punk, and me not totally disgusted with him/WWE for once. Punk doesn't lose shit in the long run, as WWE fans don't remember anything older than 3 months so no harm no foul.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Hearing whispers from more than one place that Samuray Del Sol could be headed to AAA full time to take over the Octagon or Pentagon gimmick.

This would be quite the blow for DGUSA/EVOLVE. El Generico has really helped get Samuray over as an indie scene "made guy".

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

--Edge was at last night's WWE show in Ottawa because one of his students, Leah Von Dutch, was getting a backstage tryout. There were five wrestlers getting tryouts. Notable is that William Regal, who is on of the men in charge of the tryouts, stressed that the company is now looking for ROH style wrestlers, which is different from the previous mindset.

LOL, five years too late.

Seriously, are they finally coming around on the idea that talented indie wrestlers, who love what they do and have a dream, are easier to teach and work with and motivate than models and ex-football players and bodybuilders looking for exposure and chasing cash? Brilliant.