The General Wrestling Thread

[ThomasTomasz]

That photo was apparently taken at the Predators game. With tonights Raw being in Nashville, commence speculation on an Undertaker appearance tonight.

 

[EmpireWF]

He's 47 or 48...imagine how he'll look when he's 60.

 

[JimLeavy59]

He's 47 or 48...imagine how he'll look when he's 60.

You think he'll even make it to 60?

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

He's 47 or 48...imagine how he'll look when he's 60.

Thats the thing, hes not that old, and for a good 5 or 6 years he was doing the slow moving zombie deal and wasnt taking big bumps or doing fast paced high impact stuff. So like I was saying in the other thread, the extent to which he is broken down is surprising to me. Some people just age faster I guess.

 

[FedEx227]

Here's a re-post from that thread. I think regardless of what type of style he worked, he just worked an absolute SHIT ton during his peak years with the WWE. I haven't gone back and compared it to other guys, but I'd imagine he's near the top.

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I think regardless of what style he worked, his bump card is punched. This is just in WWE, amount of matches per year:

1989: 3
1990: 32
1991: 186 (!)
1992: 151
1993: 158
1994: 84
1995: 140
1996: 169 (!)
1997: 174 (!)
1998: 125
1999: 103
2000: 69
2001: 130
2002: 92
2003: 53
2004: 5
2005: 57
2006: 62
2007: 76
2008: 97
2009: 89
2010: 49
2011 & 2012: 23

That's 2,156 matches in 24 years and that's only the real "2nd" part of his career, not counting WCW/NWA or his other stops. That's A LOT of matches.

 

[FedEx227]

Okay, here are career matches with another guy who was a workhorse during a huge period of house shows for WWE.

Hart: 2,349 matches (1979-2011) - 102 matches/year
Undertaker: 2,156 matches (1989-2012) - 93 matches/year

So I guess Taker really is breaking down worse then he probably should considering Hart worked a much more impactful style for longer.

 

[SuperKevin]

Thats the thing, hes not that old, and for a good 5 or 6 years he was doing the slow moving zombie deal and wasnt taking big bumps or doing fast paced high impact stuff. So like I was saying in the other thread, the extent to which he is broken down is surprising to me. Some people just age faster I guess.

I guarantee I'll look like that by the time I'm his age. My hair is already about 30% gray and I'm only 28. I also have gray facial hair.

 

[EmpireWF]

Some of Taker's known injuries

(suffered a knee injury which ended his pro basketball plans in Europe)

Back Injury (his first legit time off in WWE, After Rumble 94 until Summerslam that year, he may have worked a handful of road dates during this time).
Broken orbital bone (thanks to a misplaced clothesline from Mabel in 1995…he had to wear a mask until it healed).
Groin Injury (he missed some time at the end of 1999…this was when Bulldog filled in for him in the six pack challenge match at Backlash).
Biceps injury (missed time in the first half of 2000 forcing him to miss Wrestlemania)
Elbow injury (took some time off after the Lesnar HIAC in 2002, returned around January or February in 2003)
Rib Injury (don't think he missed time coming off a Euro tour in 2006)
Biceps injury (May 2007-September 2007 he was out of action)
Torn Rotator Cuff (October 2010-February 2011 to TV, don't think he wrestled until Wrestlemania against HHH)

plus more including more knee injuries and who knows what else

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Okay, here are career matches with another guy who was a workhorse during a huge period of house shows for WWE.

Hart: 2,349 matches (1979-2011) - 102 matches/year
Undertaker: 2,156 matches (1989-2012) - 93 matches/year

So I guess Taker really is breaking down worse then he probably should considering Hart worked a much more impactful style for longer.

Hart had WCW matches, too. He stayed remarkably healthy until Goldberg's mule kick. He missed something like 3 bookings in his entire life. That's just mental. I think he had one major injury that kept him out.

 

[JimLeavy59]

Thats Bret though.

Also am I in the minority of actually enjoying biker Taker? I thought his heel run with that gimmick was awesome.

 

[FedEx227]

Hart had WCW matches, too. He stayed remarkably healthy until Goldberg's mule kick. He missed something like 3 bookings in his entire life. That's just mental. I think he had one major injury that kept him out.

His WCW stuff is in that number too. Counted WCW, NWA and WWE.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Here's a re-post from that thread. I think regardless of what type of style he worked, he just worked an absolute SHIT ton during his peak years with the WWE. I haven't gone back and compared it to other guys, but I'd imagine he's near the top.

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I think regardless of what style he worked, his bump card is punched. This is just in WWE, amount of matches per year:

1989: 3
1990: 32
1991: 186 (!)
1992: 151
1993: 158
1994: 84
1995: 140
1996: 169 (!)
1997: 174 (!)
1998: 125
1999: 103
2000: 69
2001: 130
2002: 92
2003: 53
2004: 5
2005: 57
2006: 62
2007: 76
2008: 97
2009: 89
2010: 49
2011 & 2012: 23

That's 2,156 matches in 24 years and that's only the real "2nd" part of his career, not counting WCW/NWA or his other stops. That's A LOT of matches.

How in the world do you put in enough matches to essentially wrestle every other day? That's what I want to know.

 

[FedEx227]

Have you ever been to a house show? I've been to house shows in Chicago where guys were going about 1/8th speed, I can't even imagine a house show in Sioux Falls.

 

[JimLeavy59]

https://twitter.com/RealKurtAngle/status/301089143067381760

:upset:

 

[Derrville]

I love drunk Kurt

 

[SuperKevin]

Thats Bret though.

Also am I in the minority of actually enjoying biker Taker? I thought his heel run with that gimmick was awesome.

It was refreshing. The supernatural thing is blah

 

[JayDizzle]

MFers booing Heyman.

You assholes in the crowd should get down on your knees and kiss his Converses.

 

[JayDizzle]

I know it's kayfabe but dammit Paul, don't fucking leave.

 

[SuperKevin]

This is the beginning of Heyman choosing Lesnar over Punk

 

[JayDizzle]

This is the beginning of Heyman choosing Lesnar over Punk

Knowing the life cycle of how Heyman backs his dudes, it's a lock.

MFer's awesomesauce at making it sound like he's got fucking cancer.

I love the subversion that this promo has.

...and I think Punk's gonna get Pauly first with that look in his eyes.

Am I crazy?