The General Wrestling Thread

[EmpireWF]

What sucks most is guys like Joe, Nigel and Daniels are getting the shaft.

 

[Bigpapa42]

Supposedly Hall/Nash/Nasty's contracts are going to only last until the end of Genesis, which is good imo, i have no problem with them being here, and going out putting someone over.

Val Venis is great, he's a very underrated wrestler and was never given a proper push.

That's the key... to make whatever role they play worthwhile, they need to put some talent over. And talent that needs it - not the likes of Angle or Styles. It looks like the Nasty Boys are jumping into a feud with Team 3-D, which is endlessly stupid in my opinion. The only reason the Nasty Boys are in TNA is because of their association with Hogan - they aren't legends, aren't considered by most as an all-time team, and never draw at all. Just proof that Hogan is still Hogan and still seems willing to put himself and his buddies ahead of the good of the company...

I like Morley (Venus). Always have. But I don't understand what his purpose is. He was decently over at one point, but he's not really a name at this point and never got "big". So I don't really think he's going to have much value in terms of putting someone over. And if he's going to be a regular.... No thanks. Again, I like him, but I would rather see the air time and matches he would get given to someone who can actually possibly help TNA in the long run. That was one of the biggest issues I had with with the live Monday night Impact... Instead of giving face time to the guys who should carry TNA into the next decade, they give it instead to the likes of Morley and the Nasty Boys... Stupidity...

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

What sucks most is guys like Joe, Nigel and Daniels are getting the shaft.

That's why we need change. Brother.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

In regards to Joe, Nigel, etc.

 

Booking has already buried Joe and Wolfe within two weeks...Nigel loses to The Pope and then Joe loses to Nigel)...

I'm pretty sure we'll see more of this mid-card garbo...I think they'll push Styles for a minute before you see him drop the belt...probably to Angle...

And to be fair, I kind of agree...I mean, I love AJ...but I am not an average fan either...I can't see how anyone that is just tuning in to TNA would give a fuck about AJ. I like AJ...his in-ring ability is very good...but, on the mic...he's...well, AJ.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

In regards to Joe, Nigel, etc.

 

Booking has already buried Joe and Wolfe within two weeks...Nigel loses to The Pope and then Joe loses to Nigel)...

I'm pretty sure we'll see more of this mid-card garbo...I think they'll push Styles for a minute before you see him drop the belt...probably to Angle...

And to be fair, I kind of agree...I mean, I love AJ...but I am not an average fan either...I can't see how anyone that is just tuning in to TNA would give a fuck about AJ. I like AJ...his in-ring ability is very good...but, on the mic...he's...well, AJ.

But who's fault is it that AJ isn't over? TNA had 3 dynamic, hot stars coming off a hot feud, and then booked all 3 into oblivion.

-AJ was dead the minute they booked him as Angle's goofy, childlike sidekick. DEAD.

-Joe at first was handled well, and had the great feud with Angle, but then was changed from determined killer to whining crybaby. DEAD. Not to mention weird tatoo face knife attacker Joe. DOUBLE DEAD.

-Daniels was was given a half dozen bad makeovers, including inexplicably stepping in for Kaz to save the Suicide character, when I can think of dozens of random indy guys who could have been used instead of pissing away a guy who might have gotten over.

The point is, nobody as dynamic and fresh as AJ was at one point should be thought of as just AJ. They pisssed away all the homegrown guys.

 

[JayDizzle]

Sadly, there's no where else to go for them except either back to the indies or to FCW for "retraining."

Just imagine Joe doing the "Main Event" style in a match with a Batista (3 minute squash match) or a Kane (Kane will put anyone over but still...)

 

[JayDizzle]

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The Liontamer LIVES!

 

[krulmichael]

lol @ Tyson with the trash talk to Hornswoggle.

 

[JayDizzle]

The Miz... is... AWESOME!

Big ups for his using shooty comments for his promo tonight... feels a little like that Orton promo where he said he would be our hero, whether we like it or not.

Chicken crumbs = 6 Months out of the Locker Room? GTFO, Uncle Vince.​

 

[krulmichael]

The Miz... is... AWESOME!

Big ups for his using shooty comments for his promo tonight... feels a little like that Orton promo where he said he would be our hero, whether we like it or not.

Chicken crumbs = 6 Months out of the Locker Room? GTFO, Uncle Vince.​

The Miz is indeed awesome. Hated the guy when he was apart of M&M, but as a solo guy, his annoyingness has grown on me and whether you like him or not, the guy has tremendous mic skills. Very good promo with MVP there, nice to see a good feud building up with some different guys.

 

[JayDizzle]

The Miz is indeed awesome. Hated the guy when he was apart of M&M, but as a solo guy, his annoyingness has grown on me and whether you like him or not, the guy has tremendous mic skills. Very good promo with MVP there, nice to see a good feud building up with some different guys.

I dunno if I should be impressed or a little off-put by MVP's quick change in the middle of the whole promo when Miz brings up MVP's criminal past with MVP switching gears so quickly to how he became an animal fighting other animals inside the pen.

I'm going with the former seeing as most stiffs on the mic (SEE: Jack Swagger) just repeat one catch phrase over and over to get heat from the crowd with no real payoff.

It's like one of those dolls with the pull string in the back that makes it talk... two, three phrases tops and then unless it comes with other cool stuff, it's useless.

Luckily Swagger can work Power-Style to go with his amateur background.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I was coming into this thread to praise The Miz, but you guys beat me to it. One of the few guys who gets me to stop FF'ing the DVR.

That promo was great.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Tyson throws a great worked punch.

He always looks like he's having alot of fun out there. Not the smoothest talker, but he dint blow any of his lines, and he's still very charasmatic.

 

[Bigpapa42]

Must say I agree about the Miz promo. I liked him as part of MNM but really wasn't sure he could be a solo star. He's slowly grown on me. That felt like a genuine promo. Not something from the minds of a bunch of writers, but they two workers themselves. If so, I really wish they would do that more. Let the guys who can talk... talk...

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Must say I agree about the Miz promo. I liked him as part of MNM but really wasn't sure he could be a solo star. He's slowly grown on me. That felt like a genuine promo. Not something from the minds of a bunch of writers, but they two workers themselves. If so, I really wish they would do that more. Let the guys who can talk... talk...

There was some passion in that promo, on both sides. That's why the segment was so good, and ended up getting over so well.

I'm sure it was scripted, but it was an old school type promo because of the realism that came across from both guys.

The Miz is blowing right past Morrison and becoming a star. Who would have thought that would have happened? The Morrison face turn was a mistake. He's a natural heel.

 

[dave]

That Tyson thing was so predictable.
I'm guessing even Jericho wondered about doing that piece.
So stupid.

The Miz promo was solid, but there's just something that doesn't work about that guy. Can't put my finger on it.

 

[dave]

What sucks most is guys like Joe, Nigel and Daniels are getting the shaft.

Hogan thinking that guys like Hall, Waltman, The Nasty Boys, etc... are still relevant makes me laugh.

I could see Hall having one last great run if he's focused, but not in TNA.

IMO, Waltman was never a main eventer, just a hanger on-er.

 

[Epidemik]

Hogan thinking that guys like Hall, Waltman, The Nasty Boys, etc... are still relevant makes me laugh.

I could see Hall having one last great run if he's focused, but not in TNA.

IMO, Waltman was never a main eventer, just a hanger on-er.

Chyna vs Waltman would draw

*ahem* One Night In China *ahem*

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

The Miz is fantastic.

He was terrible when he first started out...but right before he got with Morrison, he started really catching on...then with Morrison...vroom vroom...he is a future star.

Don't think he'll ever be world champ, but he is very good in his current role and has some upside there.

Morrison needs to be a heel NOW.

 

[IamMedellin]

Randy 0rton Does NOT give a FUCK

Randy 0rton Does NOT give a FUCK

Randy Orton Accused of Assaulting Teen
By Amish Patel
Jan 13, 2010 - 1:49:23 PM


-- A 15-year-old boy has accused WWE superstar Randy Orton of assault and battery on Tuesday night, and has filed a criminal complaint according to Press in Saugas, MA.

The boy accused Orton of spitting gum in his face and using profanity. Orton was also accused of saying "so sue me" when the boy's mother attempted to interject.

The incident is alleged to have taken place in the parking lot of Kowloon restaurant outside of Boston - a regular visiting spot for WWE stars when they are in the area.

http://www.wickedlocal.com/saugus/n...andy-Orton-accused-of-assault-outside-Kowloon