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hah wow funny how I watch the impacts (no spoiler reading for me) and come in here w/ totally opposite opinions of everybody.

I've actually been entertained by impact more than ever.


This post sums it up best.

"First of all, I've really enjoyed TNA since Hogan and Bischoff arrived. They've got so many interesting characters, great workers and interesting and unpredictable storylines.

A few people have made topics similar to this on other forums and I'm starting to believe Hogan and Bischoff are trying to get the fans to turn on them on purpose. They're still trying to get people to tune in every week but I think some of the decions they're making are designed to rub people the wrong way and I think it is going to end up being apart of the Hogan/Bischoff vs Foley/Jarrett feud.

As for the screwjob, I'm honestly starting to think that Hogan and Bischoff are working everyone and trying to get the fans to turn against them on purpose. I think it is eventually going to lead to a divide in the TNA roster and that some will side with Hogan and Bischoff because they believe they're taking TNA to the top and others will side with Foley and Jarrett because they miss the old TNA and are sick of being held back.

Think about all that has happened so far. They've done the screwjob, brought in Hogan's friends, Borash has been replaced by Bubba and they've got TNA's poster boy, AJ Styles, to turn on all of his ''friends'' and join Ric Flair. Plus, Jarrett and Foley keep saying that they won't let Hogan/Bischoff destroy their company. Bischoff is feuding with Foley, while Jarrett seems to be feuding with Hogan, while Sting is looking down from the rafters, just like he was when he was WCW's ''saviour''.

Hogan and Bischoff aren't idiots, they know that a lot of people blame them for he demise of WCW and I think they're playing with that and trying to mke people believe they're doing the same to TNA. It is exactly the sort of storyline that would make wrestling interesting again and make people want to tune in watch. I really hope this is the case because we haven't seen anything like this in wrestling before."
 
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Y2R that argument is scary close to how i justified Nicklebacks change of direction many years back. sadly i think you will be waiting for a pnchline that will never come as well. just wait for beefcake to debut and talented guys to be sitting in the back
 
Biss hit the nail on the head...Y2R's premise for the Hogan/Bischoff TNA is assuming they are genius enough to actually go this route and finish it with a punchline...a punchline that a betting man would bet would never come.

Also, it'd take a true mastermind of the business to actually develop a storyline that focuses around an entity purposely creating bad television in hopes to garner massive heel heat while still keeping viewership, nevermind building upon it.

If that was truly the case, I can only imagine that instead of boos and massive heel heat you'd simply get people turning the channel.
 
Here is an interesting blog article by Lance Storm on the latest in TNA. He hates TNA, but claims to be giving it a chance since its move to Monday Night and beyond...I can't say that he is in the wrong on any of his points.

Spoilered for length.

 

When I said I was going to start watching Impact again in the New Year, you must have figured that my TNA rants couldn’t be far behind and sure enough it only took a couple weeks. This rant will not be as venomous as past rants because while there were a lot of things on this week’s edition of Impact that I thought were terrible, they weren’t outright blatantly wrong or as rage educing as the crap that drove me to give up on Impact all together. There was some good along with the bad this week on Impact, so I will try to look at the show as a whole and not get completely out of control with an Anti-TNA rant, but on the whole I really disliked this show.

The first thing I noticed about the show was the return to a regular wrestling ring, which I have to say, is a big positive. I never liked the 6 sided ring and thought it just screamed “Silly Gimmick”, so I welcomed the return to a conventional ring. I found the matches much easier to watch and after the initial “oh hey it’s a real ring” I quickly didn’t notice the ring any more and could focus on the product. I found with the 6 sided ring I always noticed the thing and found guys often running at a corner or rope his opponent wasn’t intending to send him toward. The square ring shoots better, and just works better on every level. As for the ramp to the ring, I’m not as big a fan of that. I’m curious if the new ramp was put in place because Hogan and some of the other older guys with hip and knee replacements found it difficult walking down hill on the old ramp.

I’m not going to say this is wrong or even a definite bad idea, only time will tell for sure, but I hated AJ Styles as the new Nature Boy. There are a ton of things that needed fixing in TNA but AJ Styles isn’t one of them. One of the reasons the Nature Boy gimmick worked so well for Ric Flair was that he lived it; he really did live this life style. AJ Styles is about as far from this gimmick in real life as humanly possible. The only person that might be less suited for this gimmick is me. I also think AJ as a heel is a terrible idea because most of the appeal of AJ Styles is all the phenomenal stuff he does. AJ does cool shit and has great matches, so why would I want to boo him? The answer is I don’t, I like and respect AJ for how hard he works and I enjoy matching his matches. AJ Styles acting like a Ric Flair wanna be is just going to make him look like a second rate worker marking out for a guy he sees as a bigger star than himself. Also, on a production note, book SHORTER girls! Why did no one notice that these girls were TALLER than the World Heavyweight Champion, and point out that this is a bad visual on TV? AJ got in the ring and stood between Flair’s two girls and they were both taller than him. Book shorter girls or make them take off their heels when they get in the ring!

To me this angle is a sabotaging push. You claim to be pushing a guy while you force him out of his own element as a character, put him in a situation (being a heel) that limits his strengths in the ring, you then over shadow him with someone who is supposed to give him the rub and do underhanded things that make him look bad (like having him look small standing beside girls) and then when he isn’t as over as he is supposed to be at the end of it all, you point out that you tried real hard, “but the kid just couldn’t get over” and put all the blame on him and then go on to push who you originally wanted to in the first place. I hope I’m wrong, but the alternative to this being a clever way of making AJ fail, is that they are actually trying to succeed and are making this many mistakes unknowingly. I’m not sure which is worse.

One other completely unrelated speculation; will TNA have to ban Ric Flair from mentioning Space Mountain, since it is an attraction at a rival theme park.

My next complaint is not a TNA exclusive by any means and it drives me just as crazy when WWE does it, but not honouring stipulations and offering immediate PPV rematches on television is a horrible business plan in my opinion. With TNA’s track record of stipulations galore, and going back on them left and right, the new regime needs to make it clear to fans that they can be trusted to deliver. What a better way to show that you are Wrestling and not bullshit Sports Entertainment, like you are claiming to be, than to actually stick to and honour the finish and stipulation of your wrestling matches; especially on the heels of WWE going something like 5 weeks in a row screwing fans over on the “Jericho off RAW for good” stipulation.

TNA bait and switched 2 matches on the PPV (not delivering Bobby Lashley or Scott Hall), then they went back on the stipulation from the main event, and also did rematches of the World and Tag Team Title matches on Impact. What message is this sending to fans? It’s telling them that we don’t deliver what we promise you, so if you spend your money to support us we will screw you, and if you don’t spend your money to support us, we will give you the key matches for free the week after on TV anyway. They are punishing their paying fans and rewarded their nonpaying ones. This is not a good business model!

I do want to give a HUGE thumbs up to Mick Foley for delivering very safe chair shots to the heads of the British Invasion. With everything we know about concussions those were the kind of chair shots the industry needs to be delivering. Guys getting killed with unprotected chair shots to the head makes me turn off a program.

Why does TNA continue to over kill angles? Russo has always been famous for having multiple people on the same show doing the same angle, but Bischoff and Hogan are smarter than this. I know this is likely leading to faction War Fare, but to me it just ends up as redundant over kill. Hogan comes out and talks about how this is going to be a wrestling company but there was so little wrestling on the show. We got 3 or 4 Jeff Jarrett / Bubba the Love Sponge radio segments (yes radio segments on TV) where Bubba and Jeff argued as equals over who should be running TNA. Who the F—K is Bubba the Love Sponge, and why is Jeff even talking to this guy? In TNA “storyline” Bubba is a rookie backstage interviewer; would HHH ever argue about the direction of WWE with Josh Matthews? So we have a power struggle argument between Bubba and Jeff. We also get a power struggle argument with Mick Foley and Eric Bischoff; add to that The Band’s dispute with Hogan over employment, Bobby Lashley has also been is a dispute over wanting to quit.

We got 5 matches on the show totaling only 17:30 (approx) minutes of action. Not a good sign for what they are pushing as a WRESTLING show. That doesn’t even take into account that one of those matches featured the Nasty Boys getting a win. No Beer Money, no MCMG, no Desmond Wolf, and no Chris Daniels wrestling on the show, instead we get the Nasty Boys, in 2010. So instead of the great wrestling matches the aforementioned names would produce we got maybe 8 or 10 segments about who does and doesn’t work for the company or who does or doesn’t run the show.

I have no idea what is going on. To my understanding Jeff Jarrett founded TNA and is a share holder. Mick Foley bought into the company and is a very significant share holder. Dixie Carter also some how runs and owns TNA, so I guess she is the majority owner (This despite the fact that not that long ago the story was that JJ and Foley were sole owners). Dixie then “restructured” the company and “partnered” with Hogan and Bischoff enabling them to run the company and somehow did all of this without the permission of either of the other two major share holders. In addition to that, this “restructuring” of the company has somehow eliminated Foley and JJ’s investment and ownership of the company and they are now just guys on the roster. I don’t even want try to understand the logic behind Dixie Carter (Hogan’s “partner”) hiring Hogan’s arch nemesis Ric Flair after he picked her up one night and slept with her.

If that isn’t confusing enough, on this episode of Impact, Scott Hall and Sean Waltman were fired (for lack of a better word) despite supposedly never being employed by TNA, even though they were advertised, booked on, or wrestled on the last PPV. Mick Foley was also fired, Kurt Angle quit, and Bobby Lashley who was trying to quit but couldn’t, because he had a contract, asked to stay and they told him they would think about it and get back to him. WTF? That’s 5 people on 1 show doing a “questionable employment” angle.

And then for the Finale we got the Montreal finish. Are you F’N kidding me? The most over done, bullshit finish in wrestling and we not only got it again, we got an exact carbon copy of it; all we needed was for Kurt to draw WWE in the air at the finish. This finish is so old and so stale it doesn’t draw heat it draws groans of disappointment. My first reaction to this (after my groan of disappointment) was: “Hey that reminds me, WWE is finally doing the conclusion to this 12 year old angle on RAW, I’ll have to be sure to watch that show on Monday!” On top of all that there were a ton of plot holes in this angle.

1) If Hebner was going to “Montreal” Kurt and screw him, why didn’t he do it when AJ had him in the Figure 4 Leg Lock earlier in the match?

2) Why did Kurt assume Hogan had anything to do with this? Hogan was the guy who gave him the second chance in the first place. If Hogan wasn’t on Kurt’s side he could have just stuck to the stipulation from the PPV and not given Kurt the opportunity of this match that he would then have to screw him out of later. This was so stupid.

3) How can anyone believe that Kurt is going to quit over this, like he threatened to do at the end of this show. Bobby Lashley has been trying to quit for weeks now but can’t because he is under contract. TNA has already established, on this very show, that guys can’t quit! Doesn’t anyone in TNA watch TNA? Maybe if they did the ratings would be better.

4) The Montreal finish makes no sense when the reigning champ is the one going over! Why bother conspiring with a ref, and fighting this whole match when you are the reigning champion? AJ could just get DQ’d, counted out; you name it, and still retain his title. The whole point of Montreal was that Shawn had to get a pin fall or submission on the existing champ in order to WIN the title. Doesn’t anyone pay attention to details anymore?

I’m going to give TNA a few more weeks, and keep my fingers crossed, because I really hope this works, but my initial optimism is really waning.

Lance Storm

P.S. I’d like to take credit for the Space Mountain observation as well as the possible reason behind the new ramp to ring side, but truth be told one of my current students pointed both out to me.
 
Biss hit the nail on the head...Y2R's premise for the Hogan/Bischoff TNA is assuming they are genius enough to actually go this route and finish it with a punchline...a punchline that a betting man would bet would never come.

Also, it'd take a true mastermind of the business to actually develop a storyline that focuses around an entity purposely creating bad television in hopes to garner massive heel heat while still keeping viewership, nevermind building upon it.

If that was truly the case, I can only imagine that instead of boos and massive heel heat you'd simply get people turning the channel.

This.

If this is all a work by Hogan and Bischoff, its counter-productive because its turning viewers off. Its eroding the existing loyal fanbase. Its probably creating problems backstage.
 
hah wow funny how I watch the impacts (no spoiler reading for me) and come in here w/ totally opposite opinions of everybody.

I've actually been entertained by impact more than ever.


This post sums it up best.

"First of all, I've really enjoyed TNA since Hogan and Bischoff arrived. They've got so many interesting characters, great workers and interesting and unpredictable storylines.

A few people have made topics similar to this on other forums and I'm starting to believe Hogan and Bischoff are trying to get the fans to turn on them on purpose. They're still trying to get people to tune in every week but I think some of the decions they're making are designed to rub people the wrong way and I think it is going to end up being apart of the Hogan/Bischoff vs Foley/Jarrett feud.

As for the screwjob, I'm honestly starting to think that Hogan and Bischoff are working everyone and trying to get the fans to turn against them on purpose. I think it is eventually going to lead to a divide in the TNA roster and that some will side with Hogan and Bischoff because they believe they're taking TNA to the top and others will side with Foley and Jarrett because they miss the old TNA and are sick of being held back.

Think about all that has happened so far. They've done the screwjob, brought in Hogan's friends, Borash has been replaced by Bubba and they've got TNA's poster boy, AJ Styles, to turn on all of his ''friends'' and join Ric Flair. Plus, Jarrett and Foley keep saying that they won't let Hogan/Bischoff destroy their company. Bischoff is feuding with Foley, while Jarrett seems to be feuding with Hogan, while Sting is looking down from the rafters, just like he was when he was WCW's ''saviour''.

Hogan and Bischoff aren't idiots, they know that a lot of people blame them for he demise of WCW and I think they're playing with that and trying to mke people believe they're doing the same to TNA. It is exactly the sort of storyline that would make wrestling interesting again and make people want to tune in watch. I really hope this is the case because we haven't seen anything like this in wrestling before."

hmmmnnnnn...Interesting

So It's so Bad...Its good
 
Honky Tonk Man declined WWE's Hall of Fame offer.

http://www.honkytonkman.net/#/news/4533111673

HTM's site says he's booked for some Wizard Convention the same date as the HOF and was not willing to take the $$$ hit by blowing off 7-dates for the 1 WWE date & no-compete.

Then the post lists some of his grievances with Laurinitis.
 
Chris Jericho and Shane Helms were arrested for "public intoxication", or something of that nature last nite. Apparently Helms also KO'd a couple ppl (one being female) so he could be in further trouble.

EDIT: Me and Larry must be watching the Fight Network at the same time.
 
TMZ says Jericho, Helms, another dude and a girl (the dude & girl are not wrestlers) in a cab and were drunk. Helms allegedly struck Jericho, the dude and the girl.

Helms fled the gas station, then returned and both he & Y2J cooperated with the police. They're out on bond.

The girl said she won't press charges but the other guy may.
 
TMZ says Jericho, Helms, another dude and a girl (the dude & girl are not wrestlers) in a cab and were drunk. Helms allegedly struck Jericho, the dude and the girl.

Helms fled the gas station, then returned and both he & Y2J cooperated with the police. They're out on bond.

The girl said she won't press charges but the other guy may.
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Yeah, not really buying AJ as the new Nature Boy. Just doesn't work for me.

Is there anyone who is happy to see the Nasty Boys on TV at this point in time? Besides their moms, maybe? Did these guys even have fans back in the day?
 
I wonder if WWE can ultimately block the "Mr. Anderson" name. He did perform in the WWE as "Mr. Anderson" very briefly when they first introduced him on Velocity.

I understand Anderson is his legit last name, but the name and gimmick should be intellectual property of WWE.
 
Yeah, not really buying AJ as the new Nature Boy. Just doesn't work for me.

Is there anyone who is happy to see the Nasty Boys on TV at this point in time? Besides their moms, maybe? Did these guys even have fans back in the day?

I feel bad for AJ. The Nature Boy gimmick works because Ric LIVED that life style back when wrestling transcended what was going on in and around the ring...these old bastards LIVED that life they personified on V. AJ is a goofy backwoods bumpkin from the mountains of Georgia. C'mon SON! It is completely taking a guy like AJ out of his comfort zone and it shows. I saaw him accidentally burry his face into a girls neck instead of her tits on IMPACT tonight. Meanwhile Slick Ric is asking the ladies if he can join in too. I see the effort, but the whole idea of giving someones gimmick to someone else is terrible. Yeah, it helped get Jay Lethal over a little bit, but shit got old fast. It provided a few chuckles with Shark Boy, but it got old, faster. Giving AJ Styles, the champ, Ric Flair's persona...F- effort.

The Nasty Boys have never been over...EVER...ANYWHERE. They are the epitome of bums in pro wrestling...Knobbs just so happens to be a good buddy of Hogan's, hence...job for the first time in a decade.

They are terrible and I feel sorry for the Dudleys to even have to attempt to put these bums over for a PPV match as some legit talent to fight.
 
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I wonder if WWE can ultimately block the "Mr. Anderson" name. He did perform in the WWE as "Mr. Anderson" very briefly when they first introduced him on Velocity.

I understand Anderson is his legit last name, but the name and gimmick should be intellectual property of WWE.

He has been around for a few weeks and the WWE hasn't put out a cease and desist letter yet...so...maybe not. He has been using the Ken Anderson/Mr. Anderson gimmick for a while, back in his OVW days...before he was in OVW he was a bum with TNA. Not sure if he used the Mr. moniker then.

They made him use Ken Kennedy/Mr. Kennedy so they could trademark THAT back then...I doubt they would have also trademarked "Mr. Anderson" as well.

As for the gimmick itself...he has definitely been doing that for a while, just not the whole mic drop thing. Before it used to be beat up the announcer. I think he was doing that before OVW.
 
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I found this to be an interesting and good read surprisingly.

Bisch + Hogan on Bubba's show (at least he's good for something, gets a lot of insider info from these interviews)

The following is a recap of Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff's appearance on the Bubba The Love Sponge radio show on Friday.

-Hogan and Bischoff joined the show 30 minutes after the advertised start time. Bubba said Bischoff called him yesterday and said he was going to be in town visiting Hogan, so he invited them to appear on the show.

-Hogan played a nasty phone message he got from his ex-wife. He said every once in a while he'll be driving and will think momentarily that he's headed home to her and the kids. He said he snaps out of it quickly and then plays the message Linda Bollea left to keep him grounded.

-Bubba made a crack about not being able to do what he wants to do on TNA Impact. Hogan joked about Awesome Kong knocking him out.

-The cohost asked for clarification on the rumor that TNA is thinking about bringing in Honky Tonk Man. Hogan said Honky actually owns the name "Linda Hogan." Bischoff said he would "rather drive a rusty ice pick through my thigh" than work for Honky Tonk Man. Bischoff also stated that Honky "couldn't draw flies if he were rolled in horse shit." He definitively added, "There's no truth to that at all," Bischoff said regarding the rumor that Honky started on his website.

-A caller asked about Dixie Carter saying she'd like to promote a more family friendly product. Hogan said she won't get her wish and that they plan to "keep pushing and pushing and pushing."

-Bischoff said he wasn't aware of whether TNA Impact will really go live on March 1. Hogan said he has a wish list and the beginning of March works for him.

-Hogan said he'd love to bring in Randy Savage to manage Jay Lethal.

-Bubba brought up the Orlando screwjob and said it came together last night with the followup. Bischoff said wrestling is a soap opera for men. He said dissecting one show is like taking one page out of a book and trying to say you know what a book is like.

-A listener asked what the pecking order is regarding TNA creative, specifically as far as Vince Russo is concerned. "Eric gets an overview of the shit and then he fixes everything," Hogan said. Hogan added that he and Eric also get together to discuss it. "Eric is straightening the shit out because he knows I can't do that." Hogan said Eric comes back to him and he says whether he likes it. Hogan said he hasn't changed any of Bischoff's ideas. Bischoff confirmed that Hogan hasn't changed any of his writing thus far, but joked that it's still early. He said Hogan has also had some great news.

-Hogan took offense to Russo writing about "fake wrestling." He said he there are wrestlers who have ruined their lives and families. When Bubba mentioned Russo's book, Hogan asked, "Who the f--- is going to read it?"

-Hogan put over Lacey Von Erich. He said she's "like one of the boys." Bischoff said she has a great character and a great personality, and added that they can teach her how to work.

-A caller asked about Desmond Wolfe. Bischoff praised his work and said he's high on him. Hogan and Bischoff agreed that "something has to be dialed in, but he's close." Hogan praised the valet Chelsea and said she's like a Bond Girl.

-Bischoff said he knew the Orlando screwjob would get people talking about the product one way or another.

-A caller asked whether TNA would be opening a developmental territory. The caller also wanted to know how to become a pro wrestling writer. Bischoff said there's no developmental territory right now. He put over Brian Knobbs's school. He said there's also a group in Los Angeles that has quality talent. He said he hopes they can develop their own developmental territory, "but we're not there yet."

-Bubba said he loves "The Black Pope" D'Angelo Dinero. Bischoff and Hogan put him over. Hogan said he's tired of seeing him get beat. "We love him," Hogan said.

-Bubba also put over Abyss. Hogan said Abyss is his favorite. "He's my next John Cena," Hogan said. Bischoff praised Abyss for having a great attitude and having a larger than life character. "He's magic," Bischoff said.

-Hogan said he'd love to have Florida Championship Wrestling owner Steve Keirn. Bischoff said he doesn't know what the contractual relationships are, but they are always looking for new talent. Hogan and Bischoff both said they have heard from wrestlers in WWE who are in the tail end of their contracts. They did not elaborate.

-Bubba asked about Sting working limited dates and something about a no-show. Hogan said that totally screws them up. He said he doesn't know how anyone could be used if a guy can't make the big events. Bischoff said everyone has to make a commitment. He said that guys have to be 100 percent committed or it probably won't work out. He said everyone has to step up now that they have new opportunities with Spike TV and potentially going head-to-head with WWE on Mondays.

-A caller asked if there's a chance we'll see Hogan vs. Ric Flair on TNA pay-per-view. Hogan joked that he doesn't think Flair can keep up.

-Another caller asked if the Hulkamania Tour will be released on DVD. Bischoff said it's unlikely because there was a problem with the promoter and a television network. He said they have the right to approve or decline the DVD rights. "What if we get the rest of the money out of Australia?" Hogan asked.

-A caller labeled Hogan one of the biggest scum bags in the wrestling business. The caller said Hogan shouldn't be criticizing other wrestlers when he hasn't had a good match since 1989. "I didn't have a good match before 1989," Hogan cracked. Funny. The caller said everyone in the business hates Hogan. Bischoff asked the hyper caller "how much blow" he's been doing. The caller said Steve Austin and The Rock made more money than Hogan and still put people over. Bubba pointed out that Hogan put over Rock in Toronto. Bubba actually mentioned Hogan doing a job for Billy Kidman.

-Another caller asked why they didn't do the Orlando screwjob for pay-per-view since no one believes they would air that on a taped show. Bischoff said it's part of the story. Bubba said no other TNA angle in the last six months has got people this pissed off or interested. Bischoff said it's no different than when he went on television five minutes before Raw and give away the results. He said the minute-by-minute ratings show that people like it.

-Hogan claims "inside sources" claim the original plan was for Bret Hart to face Shawn Michaels at WrestleMania.

-Bischoff praised Vince McMahon and said you know where you stand with him and he knows what he wants. However, he said he doesn't think Vince is that great creatively. He said he feels Vince gets a lot of credit for creative that he doesn't deserve.

-Bischoff said history has repeated itself in that WWE has gone family friendly, whereas TNA can now cater to the 18-34 demographic because that's what Spike TV covets.

-A caller asked if they were interested in hiring Ricky Ortiz now that he's a free agent. Bischoff cracked that free agent is the same as being unemployed. He said he wasn't familiar with Ortiz.

-Bubba asked which two WWE wrestlers he wishes he could hire. Hogan said John Cena and Randy Orton. Bischoff ripped Big Show and said he's always been lazy. Hogan said he was a different guy when he trained for boxing. Bischoff said Chris Jericho would be right there with Cena and Orton. He referred to Jericho as a "phenomenal talent." He said he likes Jericho as a person and as a talent. Hogan also praised Jericho.

-The final caller asked why they even acknowledge Vince McMahon on television. Bubba answered that everyone knows Vince is number one, so there's no reason to act like they're not aware of him. "You can't win a fight if you don't throw a punch," Bischoff said. "We're throwing punches and we're going to win the fight."
 
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