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The General Wrestling Thread
- Thread starter Bigpapa42
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Dan The Man
Dip My Balls In It
I haven't watched wrestling in awhile so I guess I'm late but holy shit Scott Hall looks awful. Even by his standards.
A few of us do. Its nowhere what it used to be, but can still produce some solid matches. Its in Philly this weekend? Is it a TV taping?
LiquidLarry2GhostWF
Highwayman
Hogan clearly misses the boat with what is wrong with TNA.
It isn't so much that TNA couldn't pop higher than a 1.4 on a good day because of the six-sided ring or the characters...it has been and will always be about the booking.
Nobody has ever made anyone care about TNA's characters on the large scale...when the company first started, it was basically Jeff Jarrett's playhouse and the entire show revolved around this WWF/WCW never-was. Then they started pulling the WWE/WCW rejects and getting them involved.
They never took the home grown guys and made'em into anything other than mid-carders with talent. You had the occasional push...Joe when feuding with Angle. AJ's pushes were brief before this.
Like I said, no one has ever given TNA's young guys a worthwhile push to stardom.
It isn't so much that TNA couldn't pop higher than a 1.4 on a good day because of the six-sided ring or the characters...it has been and will always be about the booking.
Nobody has ever made anyone care about TNA's characters on the large scale...when the company first started, it was basically Jeff Jarrett's playhouse and the entire show revolved around this WWF/WCW never-was. Then they started pulling the WWE/WCW rejects and getting them involved.
They never took the home grown guys and made'em into anything other than mid-carders with talent. You had the occasional push...Joe when feuding with Angle. AJ's pushes were brief before this.
Like I said, no one has ever given TNA's young guys a worthwhile push to stardom.
W2BTD is your best bet for a good answer here...
NJPW did some solid stuff through 2009 that I saw. Not outstanding, but solid.
NOAH still seems to be having issues. They recently cut some talent.
Warner2BruceTD
2011 Poster Of The Year
Dragon Gate is where its at in Japan these days (and the US, to be honest). The tv show is very easy to find online, as are the ppv's. I have a website I can link if anyone wants it, but right now I'm posting from my phone.
New Japan is steady as always. Consistantly good but never great.
NOAH is having financial problems but is still my favorite in ring style. Marufuji is still finding his legs as booker/president whatever. KENTA is still out with the torn knee.
I'm not a big All Japan guy. Lots of gimmicks. Few great workers.
Still plenty of random japanese indy stuff to be found, too.
The recent Super J Cup had a bunch of awesome matches and its all on YouTube.
New Japan is steady as always. Consistantly good but never great.
NOAH is having financial problems but is still my favorite in ring style. Marufuji is still finding his legs as booker/president whatever. KENTA is still out with the torn knee.
I'm not a big All Japan guy. Lots of gimmicks. Few great workers.
Still plenty of random japanese indy stuff to be found, too.
The recent Super J Cup had a bunch of awesome matches and its all on YouTube.
Warner2BruceTD
2011 Poster Of The Year
I made a thread about it.
The only real problem I have with Richards, is he told Sapolsky he would finish up his dates with DGUSA & EVOLVE. You cant come down on him for quitting, because ROH gave him a raise and more frequent dates, but you should finish up your bookings, especially when you tell the promoter that's what you intend to do. Even big, bad Vince let's guys finish up dates before they start with the E.
Throw in the fact that Dragon Gate built WM weekend around him, and now he'll be working the ROH shows across the street, well, thats just icing on the cake.
dave
New member
I wouldn't mind that link, Warner.
IamMedellin
Everything Burns...
Edge-mire..
BEST HEEL in the Business
but a 2nd rate babyface....
BEST HEEL in the Business
but a 2nd rate babyface....
LiquidLarry2GhostWF
Highwayman
Impact this week wasn't the worst thing I've ever seen...I'm shocked.
Warner2BruceTD
2011 Poster Of The Year
I gave up already.
If what i'm hearing actually goes down, it's about to get real stupid in Orlando.
IamMedellin
Everything Burns...
What'ja hear?
LiquidLarry2GhostWF
Highwayman
PM me or post here...I have no issue with reading spoilers ahead of time.
btw though, you can see Hogan/Bish booking all over the place. No one wins clean...EVER. The small package is as close to clean as you get.
btw - was looking at TNA's ratings...second verse...same as the first. Still getting roughly the same on average. Slightly higher peaks, but...
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Warner2BruceTD
2011 Poster Of The Year
That's 'cuz these guys aren't stars. Brother.
Like you said, I dont see anyone getting put over strong.
The last time TNA really got behind someone was Samoa Joe, and the Joe/Angle feud did record business for them. Then they booked Joe into a crybaby, and he made the "I tripped over bad booking" comment. So they booked him as a flesh eating Mike Tyson + 100lbs of flab, and Joe just stopped giving a shit.
They blew it and the only way to get it back would be to book him as an absolute monster, let him annihilate everyone, have him never speak, and just make him a killer. You know, HOW HE GOT OVER TO BEGIN WITH. But it's probably too late anyway, he's been booked into worthlessness.
Same for Abyss, who was made and re-made too many times. Nobody takes him seriously anymore.
AJ is played out as well, the goofy sidekick gimmick killed him IMO. This mini Nature Boy thing wont work, because it makes him look second rate. He should be portrayed AT Flair's level, not below. Could you ever see WWE pulling that shit? Could you imagine Flair coming back, and doing a gimmick where he teaches a guy like Punk or Orton or Jericho "how to be a star"? That's the same as telling everyone AJ STYLES IS NOT A STAR. Why on earth would you do that???!!! Then they wonder why guys don't draw.
And why do I feel like I have typed this 1,000 times????
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LiquidLarry2GhostWF
Highwayman
So, whats going down in the next few weeks at TNA? Do tell.
Everything you said there is exactly how I feel.
I couldn't give another fuck for really anybody in the company...other than the Pope...love me some Pope.
Everything you said there is exactly how I feel.
I couldn't give another fuck for really anybody in the company...other than the Pope...love me some Pope.
Because TNA has been in a constantly repeating, poorly booked flux since 2006. I remember I was a regular TNA watcher around the Joe/Angle feud, that thing was hot, built up perfectly... then just completely destroyed within 2-3 months and I've barely watched their show since then.
JayDizzle
Let's Go All The Way...
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwQ3Hfs9oxg"]RIP Eddie[/ame]
Agreed.
But in order to become "the BEST HEEL in the Business," Edge had start off as a babyface, get screwed (figuratively and literally), and work his way into the title picture by being an utter bastard.
I would argue that either he or Orton are 1A and 1B as far as Heels that work due to genuine hate directed towards them by the Faces they play off from.
I.E., Before the reworked No Mercy PPV when Orton attacked Cena's Dad AND the Edge/Matt Hardy feud when Hardy got rehired.
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