The General Wrestling Thread

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

So, NXT is simply a one hour per week platform to get Brian Danielson over?

I tuned in and getting a potential 15 minute "main event" match with Danielson v. fuckin Chris Jericho...not bad.

Also, lulz at Danielson saying "I'm sorry, I really wanted William Regal, but..."

 

[BazookaJoe5]

I think Danielson will get over if they let him...that was pretty sweet where he jumped out of the ring and Jericho threw him into the table.

 

[IamMedellin]

w0w...Danielson can go...

but did Jericho put him in the old school walls of jericho b/c he no sold that announce table bump?

oh and Michael cole is a cunt

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

w0w...Danielson can go...

but did Jericho put him in the old school walls of jericho b/c he no sold that announce table bump?

oh and Michael cole is a cunt

It isn't Cole per se...its Vince and Stephanie in his ear feeding him what to say.

 

[EmpireWF]

Certainly so, but Cole is still a major douche.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

True.

 

[RKO BLACK RKO]

2 thumbs up for NXT, sad them 2 only got 6 mins or so but thats all i was expecting, i now want to watch this every week, a feeling i didn't get with ecw

 

[krulmichael]

Not a bad show at all. I'll be watching weekly. And that Danielson bump on that table was redunkulious. Made me cringe watching it, almost as much as HBK's I think 2 WM's ago?

 

[RKO BLACK RKO]

he kinda no sold it a lil but still got the point across non the less

 

[EmpireWF]

Tough to no sell when there's a huge welt on his hip lol

At first I thought it was cool that he incorporates some of his routine moves into his WWE style...but I wouldn't mind if he took out the suicide dive after that crash.

Wonder what his finisher will be, which submission. Matthews mentioned him being known for his ground and pound so it sounds like he'll be using some variation of the "MMA elbows."

 

[dave]

I just watched the videos of NXT at wwe.com
I thought they handled Danielson's debut better than expected.
I never thought they'd ever recognize his independent work.
The name change really isn't that big a deal.
I think if the WWE were smart (a big if), The Miz would defend his U.S. title vs. Bryan Danielson (errrr Daniel Bryan) at Wrestlemania. It really would be a match of opposites.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

w0w...Danielson can go...

but did Jericho put him in the old school walls of jericho b/c he no sold that announce table bump?

oh and Michael cole is a cunt

If anyone was "no selling", it was Jericho. He was AWFUL in that match.

First, he blew a very simple bump on the dragon screw spot, by bumping in the completely wrong direction.

Then, he blew the spot right before the suicide dive, when he failed (refused?) to go over the top when Danielson delivered the hard flying elbow. Danielson even gave a little extra "nudge", and Jericho completely no sold the elbow and just casually fell over and rolled out of the ring.

As for the crazy suicide dive/table throw, i'm not so sure it wasnt a double cross. Why did Jericho sell the dive, when Danieslon took the entire impact? If that was a designed spot, it should have been a transition. But it wasnt, Danielson sold for a second, but then simply got up, "fired up", and retained control. Very awkward moment.

Jericho looked "off" the entire match. He's too good for that, so i'm skeptical. Draw your own conclusions.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I just watched the videos of NXT at wwe.com
I thought they handled Danielson's debut better than expected.
I never thought they'd ever recognize his independent work.
The name change really isn't that big a deal.
I think if the WWE were smart (a big if), The Miz would defend his U.S. title vs. Bryan Danielson (errrr Daniel Bryan) at Wrestlemania. It really would be a match of opposites.

If you are going to aknowledge his past, allow him to keep his look, and even push him based on all of those things, then why change the name? Makes no sense.

To that point, David Otunga is using his real name, and it has zero value.

The Danielson name change is 100% WWE ego sticking it to the internet. The change in direction of the Michael Cole character is the proof.

 

[dave]

The Danielson name change is 100% WWE ego sticking it to the internet. The change in direction of the Michael Cole character is the proof.

I would have kept his name too.

I wonder if there's a chance that could change?

Like you said, they've kept him as Danielson otherwise.

As for Michael Cole, who cares? He's always been a putz. I could care less what he thinks of any wrestler.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I would have kept his name too.

I wonder if there's a chance that could change?

Like you said, they've kept him as Danielson otherwise.

As for Michael Cole, who cares? He's always been a putz. I could care less what he thinks of any wrestler.

Cole is clearly doing a gimmick, I don't understand why people are getting upset. He's the "veteran" who thinks the rookies have something to prove, Mathews is the younger, "hipper" guy who reps the internet.

I think it's great stuff.

 

[dave]

Cole is clearly doing a gimmick, I don't understand why people are getting upset. He's the "veteran" who thinks the rookies have something to prove, Mathews is the younger, "hipper" guy who reps the internet.

I think it's great stuff.

If nothing else, the NXT thing is bringing some new talent out.
That can't be a bad thing.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

If nothing else, the NXT thing is bringing some new talent out.
That can't be a bad thing.

I thought the show was great, and i'm really looking forward to next week. The Danielson push is being done brilliantly, which is a rarity for the WWE. The Miz is fantastic as the bully, and Danielson's facial expressions and mannerisms are very good. His "lack of charisma" is why he actually has charisma.

 

[dave]

I thought the show was great, and i'm really looking forward to next week. The Danielson push is being done brilliantly, which is a rarity for the WWE. The Miz is fantastic as the bully, and Danielson's facial expressions and mannerisms are very good. His "lack of charisma" is why he actually has charisma.

It's thanks to guys like you and Biss I discovered how great Danielson is.
Your Japanese videos helped me regain some of my love for real wrestling (I know, it's not real, but the fans get my point).

I think there is room for blander characters like Danielson. It gives contrast to the show.

I'm not a huge fan of The Miz, but he does have that character which does work.

I liked that comparison a page or two back - Bob Backlund. When no one thought Backlund could do anything in the mid-90s, he pulled it off.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Danielson is "on the surface" bland.

Nobody will be calling him bland a couple months from now. He understands how to get himself over, and has that sneaky charisma I mentioned earlier. They sent him out cold to open the show, and by the end of the hour, he was already over.

 

[EmpireWF]

I think it's pretty cool they let him promote the fact that he is a 10-year veteran of the sport.

It's comical to me they are actually making it storyline how a guy could have wrestled around the globe for a decade-plus but because he never was in WWE, he's proved nothing. Get rid of the hollywood writers, REALITY ALWAYS SELLS.