The General Wrestling Thread

[JimLeavy59]

I can't get over this horrible looking merch selection for Bryan Danielson. WHO APPROVED THIS SHIT AND WHY!?

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I can't get over this horrible looking merch selection for Bryan Danielson. WHO APPROVED THIS SHIT AND WHY!?

...and then they say he can't sell merch.

 

[JimLeavy59]

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Can't wait for the WWE's favorite Jokesters The Miz and Kofi Kingston call up AJ Lee at 2am only for Batista to answer the phone.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

TNA dying on the vine in Dublin:

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Its just a matter of time.

Just a damaged brand...nothing can bring it back at this point.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Maybe they'll call up the dollar store crew of Corey Graves & Yoshi Tatsu as the new age Fake Diesel & Fake Razor.

CM Punk vs Hiroshi Tanahashi at Mania.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Maybe they'll call up the dollar store crew of Corey Graves & Yoshi Tatsu as the new age Fake Diesel & Fake Razor.

CM Punk vs Hiroshi Tanahashi at Mania.

License to print money.

 

[FedEx227]

mookieghana > You

Retrospective Stats of CM Punk in WWE: http://www.voicesofwrestling.com/2014/01/29/retrospective-stats-for-cm-punk-in-wwe/

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

mookieghana > You

Retrospective Stats of CM Punk in WWE: http://www.voicesofwrestling.com/2014/01/29/retrospective-stats-for-cm-punk-in-wwe/

God bless that nerd.

 

[Dan The Man]

If we'd only gotten our WWE Ice Cream Bars this never would've happened.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

So Meltzer & Alvarez got into a MEGA POWERS EXPLODE level argument on Observer Radio last night when discussing Daniel Bryan winning the title at Mania (dave's stance) vs Daniel Bryan winning the title as presumably planned at Extreme Rules in Seattle (not really Bryan's stance, he prefers the Mania title win, but argued just as many people would see it if they did it at Extreme Rules).

It led to Alvarez posting this, which may or may not be some good insight on viewing pattern when the network happens. Anyway, I know you guys are into the network stuff, so you might enjoy this:

Here is a direct comparison of wrestlingobserver.com versus WWE Network. Both are subscription services where you can hear or watch tons of audio or video "for free" with your sub, and can pick and choose what you want to listen to or watch. Several have mentioned this would be the best comparison, so here goes:

74% of our subscribers who listened to the post-Mania Wrestling Observer Radio audio last year also listened to the post-Mania Extreme Rules audio. Meaning if 1 million people order the Network for WrestleMania, using our site as a model that would mean approximately 740,000 Network subscribers would also likely watch Extreme Rules.

This, however, is not a fair comparison because we see about 7% growth in March/April for Mania every year and then a 7% drop when the show is over, because unlike the WWE Network people can sign up for only 1 month at a time if they want. Meaning there were people, I can't tell you how many, who were F4WOnline subscribers for the Mania audio but NOT the Extreme Rules audio. So the percentage of longer-term subscribers (a better comparison since you have to order 6 months to get WWE Network) who listened to both is almost certainly higher than 74%, perhaps even as high as 80%. So the idea that 1 million people will order a 6-month locked-in WWE Network subscription to watch WrestleMania, and then while their Network subscription is still in effect decide they WON'T watch Extreme Rules "for free" at any point is highly unlikely.

BTW, for those who wanted a WrestleMania vs. SummerSlam with Daniel Bryan comparison on this site, and again this percentage will be low because WrestleMania season is always the biggest of the year on this site in terms of numbers, it was 89%. And given the overall site subscriber base was probably 7% higher at Mania than at SummerSlam, that would mean VIRTUALLY EVERY SINGLE LONG-TERM SUBSCRIBER who listened to the Mania audio also listened to the SummerSlam audio.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

This is extra funny if you listened to our TJ Perkins interview, when he talked about Sheamus approaching him at a RAW or SD taping and asking him how he did some random signature move of his. Perkins, totally kidding, said "Give me $5 and i'll teach you", and Sheamus gave him the stink eye and walked away.

 

[BigBiss]

So are we getting DB vs HHH now?

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

So are we getting DB vs HHH now?

Yep.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

So are we getting DB vs HHH now?

That's the word. The only question, is did they make the change before or after Punk split?

Meltzer was saying they should just put Bryan in the Orton vs Batista match so they don't shit on it, put it on last, and have him win the belt. But it looks like they'll have him get his comeuppance on Trips first, then do the switch at Extreme Rules as rumored to be planned.

That means either Orton retains, or like i've been saying, double turn at Mania with Batista winning. The problem is they won't be able to get the double turn over because the crowd is going to boo both regardless.

Nice mess.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

For what it's worth, ESPN Cleveland reporter Casey Kulas reports that he heard from sources at Monday's RAW in Cleveland that there was a heated backstage exchange between WWE officials and CM Punk.

He wrote:

"My info on CM Punk: I do know from sources that at #Raw in CLE there was heated exchange backstage between Punk & staff. Topic - concussion."

"Punk was heard arguing with staff saying "I passed all your damn concussion test" and "I'm not going out and telling fans that BS""

Absolutely ridiculous if that was the straw that broke the camels back.

More on this..

WrestlingINC.com reports that one of their readers attended CM Punk's Wizard World Q&A in Portland, Oregon this past weekend and said he doesn't think Sting should come to WWE because he doesn't have anything left in the tank and would again take away from the younger Superstars. Punk called Batista a friend but said he didn't feel the time was right for Batista to return because it was so unfair to take away from the other wrestlers who work hard everyday.

Punk said he's been frustrated with WWE's direction and feels the writers aren't in touch with what fans want. He's good money-wise and hasn't really spent much money so he's not worried about receiving a paycheck.

Punk said he's interested in UFC if his body can handle it but right now he doesn't think his body is in any shape for it. He said he's been really sick, especially September through November of last year. He's had weekly MRI's and blood work done but doctors can't figure out what's wrong. He started eating meat again and is starting to feel better but isn't close to 100%.

Scary concerning his health. Guess it was just a collection of shit that Punk had enough of.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

LOL @ making THE REAL ROCK N ROLLA go to NXT. The idea is just funny. On par with Generico in NXT. Nice for a quick transition phase where we can get a few nice developmental matches without Vince or HHH's attention on him...but the fact that he has been in developmental now for what will surely be a year...it just makes me laugh. Generico can wrestle circles around 99.9% of the wrestlers on planet earth. As can Devitt. Lets have them do hip tosses and run ropes...that'll teach'em how to work, kid.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Sometimes it's that they are waiting to properly introduce them.

In Zayn's case, they wanted him to slow down & stop playing to the crowd (ugh).

Zayn will get over no matter what, he's gotten over in every single place he's been on the planet. I have zero concerns about Zayn. None. Not one. He'll go as far as they allow him to. One of the three best workers on the roster (if not the best) the day he's called up.