• Rules and regulations here: http://www.virtualsportsnetwork.com/forum/showthread.php?133219-VSN-Secret-Santa-Donation-Drive-Raffle-Waffle-Maynard-is-Awful&p=2346085#post2346085
  • We have just launched a new VSN Amazon Store. This new store will allow you to order games (including PC downloads) and anything else you want from Amazon and help VSN out at the same time! You get the exact same deals and pre-order bonuses through our store front as you do from Amazon so please bookmark this link and use it when you are shopping at Amazon.com - [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/"][COLOR="#0000FF"][U]VSN Amazon Store[/U][/COLOR][/URL] Here are some direct links to pre-order the major upcoming titles- [B][SIZE=4][COLOR="#0000FF"]PlayStation 4[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BGA9WK2"]PlayStation 4 500GB Console[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00HVBPRUO"]PlayStation 4 Gold Wireless Headset[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BGA9X9W"]PlayStation 4 DualShock 4 Wireless Controller[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BGAA3S2"]PlayStation 4 Camera[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DCBDNW6"]Final Fantasy XIV: A REALM REBORN[/URL] - April 14th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00J128FPA"]Final Fantasy XIV: A REALM REBORN Collectors Edition[/URL] - April 14th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IMVRVC4"]Trials Fusion[/URL] - April 15th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GG4BBUM"]MLB 14: The Show[/URL] - May 6th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DHF39KS"]Wolfenstein: The New Order[/URL] - May 20th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BI83EVU"]Watch Dogs[/URL] - May 27th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DYAQHTQ"]Watch Dogs Limited Edition[/URL] - May 27th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00I0574EW"]Murdered Soul Suspect[/URL] - June 3rd [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DHF39HQ"]The Elder Scrolls Online[/URL] - June 30th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BGA9ZZ4"]Drive Club[/URL] - September 30th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GZ1GUSY"]Tomb Raider Definitive Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00H5V9S6E"]Rayman Legends - Standard Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00C27SCC2"]Thief[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00HD4R5YU"]Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes Standard Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BGAA0SU"]inFAMOUS Second Son Limited Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FYIXMHQ"]inFAMOUS Second Son Collectors Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00D2ZK1IG"]Dying Light[/URL] [B][SIZE=4][COLOR="#0000FF"]PlayStation 3[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00B0JALUE"]PlayStation 3 500GB Console[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00AEX81SG"]PlayStation 3 250GB Console[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GY4OAIE"]LEGO The Hobbit[/URL] - April 8th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00I9UVY30"]FIFA 2014 World Cup Brazil[/URL] - April 15th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00ICWO2ZW"]Darksiders Collection[/URL] - April 29th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00ICWO2P2"]Red Faction Collection[/URL] - April 29th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00HQY8LRM"]Rambo The Video Game[/URL] - April 29th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FRESXSA"]The Amazing Spider-Man 2[/URL] - April 29th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00CPKUV98"]Wolfenstein: The New Order[/URL] - May 20th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00J6DLPLK"]Drakengard 3[/URL] - May 20th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BGHUS58"]Watch Dogs[/URL] - May 27th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DYAQHZ0"]Watch Dogs Collectors Edition[/URL] - May 27th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BG6ZHK0"]Murdered: Soul Suspect[/URL] - June 3rd [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IGHP28Y"]Transformers Rise of The Dark Spark[/URL] - June 24th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DNGQTFI"]Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Z[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00H4BBTCQ"]Tomb Raider - GOTY Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00HNYWFMC"]Far Cry Compilation [/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00946FSIA"]Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00HQY8LRM"]Rambo The Video Game[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FQFFPZO"]NASCAR '14[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DFT92MU"]Thief[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B0088MVP3S"]Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00ECOBFCC"]The LEGO Movie Videogame[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B006IOAHPK"]South Park: The Stick of Truth[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FDQQD52"]South Park: The Stick of Truth Grand Wizard Edition [/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00F6YD2AK"]Dark Souls II Black Armor Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00F6YD2FK"]Dark Souls II Collectors Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GJSUUC0"]Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes Standard Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00E44EZYA"]Ultra Street Fighter IV[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00D2ZK2O4"]Dying Light[/URL] [B][SIZE=4][COLOR="#0000FF"]Xbox One[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00CMQTVUA"]Xbox One Console[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00MCLFZ1Y"]Xbox One Console Madden 15 Bundle[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IIHU44E"]Xbox One Console Titanfall Bundle[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00HVPFGD8"]Titanfall Limited Edition Controller[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00CMQTUSS"]Xbox One Wireless Controller[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IAVDQCK"]Xbox One Stereo Headset[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IAVDOS6"]Xbox One Stereo Headset Adapter[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GY4OB8S"]LEGO The Hobbit[/URL] - April 8th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00CMQTUCE"]KINECT Sports: Rivals[/URL] - April 8th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IMVRVA6"]Trials Fusion[/URL] - April 15h [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FRESTZW"]The Amazing Spider-Man 2[/URL] - April 29th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DHF39L2"]Wolfenstein: The New Order[/URL] - May 20th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00CX8VY4S"]Watch Dogs[/URL] - May 27th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DYAQI0E"]Watch Dogs Limited Edition[/URL] - May 27th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00I0574CO"]Murdered Soul Suspect[/URL] - June 3rd [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IGH2HKU"]Transformers Rise of The Dark Spark[/URL] - June 24th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DHF39EO"]The Elder Scrolls Online[/URL] - June 30th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GZ1GUNO"]Tomb Raider Definitive Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DBCAS7E"]Zoo Tycoon[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00H5V9SLE"]Rayman Legends - Standard Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00CYNTHA0"]Thief[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DB9JYFY"]Titanfall[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00G2HSX86"]Titanfall Collectors Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00HD4R5WC"]Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes Standard Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00D2ZK2MQ"]Dying Light[/URL] [B][SIZE=4][COLOR="#0000FF"]Xbox 360[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FATRKOK"]Xbox 360 250GB Holiday Value Console[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GZ9ESEE"]Xbox 360 250GB Console w/Halo 4, Darksiders II, Tomb Raider and Batman: Arkham City[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B003ZSP0WW"]Xbox 360 Wireless Controller[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DC9SWWE"]Titanfall[/URL] - April 8th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00G2HSWZU"]Titanfall Collectors Edition[/URL] - April 8th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GY4OBB0"]LEGO The Hobbit[/URL] - April 8th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00I9UVY7G"]FIFA 2014 World Cup Brazil[/URL] - April 15th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00ICWO2G6"]Darksiders Collection[/URL] - April 29th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FRESY6G"]The Amazing Spider-Man 2[/URL] - April 29th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00CPKUV7K"]Wolfenstein: The New Order[/URL] - May 20th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BGD6LMG"]Watch Dogs[/URL] - May 27th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DYAQHNC"]Watch Dogs Limited Edition[/URL] - May 27th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BG6ZHL4"]Murdered: Soul Suspect[/URL] - June 3rd [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IGHY7LC"]Transformers Rise of The Dark Spark[/URL] - June 24th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DNGQQUQ"]Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Z[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00H4BBVZQ"]Tomb Raider - GOTY Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DBCAT3W"]Fable Anniversary[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00946FSJ4"]Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FQFFQ2Q"]NASCAR '14[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DFT92EI"]Thief[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B0088MVP2Y"]Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00ECOBFA4"]The LEGO Movie Videogame[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B006IOAHTQ"]South Park: The Stick of Truth[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FDQQD6Q"]South Park: The Stick of Truth Grand Wizard Edition [/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00F6YD26Y"]Dark Souls II Black Armor Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00F6YD27I"]Dark Souls II Collectors Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GJSUXLS"]Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes Standard Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00E44EZPE"]Ultra Street Fighter IV[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00D2ZK2RQ"]Dying Light[/URL] [B][SIZE=4][COLOR="#0000FF"]Wii U[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GY4OAM0"]LEGO The Hobbit[/URL] - April 22nd [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FRESQKU"]The Amazing Spider-man 2[/URL] - April 29th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DC7G2W8"]Mario Kart 8[/URL] - May 30th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IGH1LJ8"]Transformers Rise of the Dark Spark[/URL] - June 24th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DC7O77A"]Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00ECOAX34"]The LEGO Movie Videogame[/URL]
  • We are looking to possibly form a second XB1 Madden 15 league on VSN. Please visit the Sports Gaming subforum and post in the thread if you are interested.
  • There will be a site outage from 12 pm est till 3 am est
  • If you are having trouble accessing your account and don't remember your password, email help@virtualsportsnetwork.com and i'll get you an updated password for 2024.

The General Wrestling Thread

Pretty sure the sign said "Ryder>>>>Wolverine" But either way it was still dumb. That said, least Jackman did better than most guest hosts do.

They just dusted off the old "Underdog" buzzword that they use for jobbers when they don't want to verbally bury them.

Did that shit with Evan Bourne a while back with Cena when he needed a tag partner and people gave more of a shit about Sydal.

I think Samoa Joe did the same thing with Eric Young when Scott Hall no-showed a PPV that Joe and Nash were tagging in...

Anyhoo... to get right to the point, Jackman was there to pimp his movie, do the angle for the night and was smart enough not to oversell it without being phony.

Honestly, Jackman could manage during a PPV if he wasn't doing anything and I wouldn't mind.
 
I thought the Jackman-Ryder match played out well...one of the few actual Guest Host matches that worked for me.

I'd like to see Ryder actually get into a program with someone.
 
Underwhelming show, coming out of a solid summer. When I say these, I mean by WWE standards... so I give them the benefit of the doubt being saddled with a corporate structure that doesn't get wrestling, and a creative dept. that has never been involved in wrestling.

I thought Punk was really weak in this one... the introductory segment, plus all follow ups, did nothing for me.

Henry was awesome, though beating up Jerry was superfluous. Could have ended with the slapping of the belt saying, "This is all that needs to be said." Still, generated a TON of heat.

I was REALLY disappointed to see Sheamus thrown into one of those pointless six man tag matches until he squashed the lot of 'em. Sheamus should be a major contributor and needs to be treated as a main eventer, always.

Like the Jackman stuff, like others said, for a guest host spot, it kinda worked.
 
Who Jackman needs to get his shit together. Ole dude is about ready to enter Movie Jail.

Far from it. This new Steel robot movie already has a sequel in the works.

He's set to co-star in a film version of Les Miserables opposite Russell Crowe next year.

No date announced but he's confirmed for the lead role in The Greatest Showman on Earth, a musical film about P.T. Barnum.

He'll be the lead in the 2013 film 'The Wolverine' which should be another big blockbuster.

Next spring, he'll be in an ensemble comedy film 'Movie 43' which features a shitload of people in its different segments.

Plus, he'll be in Dreamwork's 'Rise of the Guardians' (voice-wise) next fall.


The man is busy as a mfer.
 
Far from it. This new Steel robot movie already has a sequel in the works.

He's set to co-star in a film version of Les Miserables opposite Russell Crowe next year.

No date announced but he's confirmed for the lead role in The Greatest Showman on Earth, a musical film about P.T. Barnum.

He'll be the lead in the 2013 film 'The Wolverine' which should be another big blockbuster.

Next spring, he'll be in an ensemble comedy film 'Movie 43' which features a shitload of people in its different segments.

Plus, he'll be in Dreamwork's 'Rise of the Guardians' (voice-wise) next fall.


The man is busy as a mfer.

Overexposure and being in one of those "full ensemble casts" is a one way ticket to movie jail. He'll be putting out Direct to DVD in no time. Especially if these flicks are stinkers...Jackman gon' git got.
 
I couldn't care less about Matt Hardy at this point, but I couldn't help but :facepalm: this.

He says he's going to rehab on WWE's dime. Just so happens that authorities recently raided his place and found a bunch of drugs.

He's been charged with "possession with intent to deliver anabolic steroids, possession of Ectsasy, maintaining a dwelling to keep controlled substances and possession of drug paraphernalia."

What morons.
 
Remember how bad wrestling was in 1994? Then ECW happened, then Nitro, then the NWO.

Then the indies got hot in the dry post Attitude era, and guys like Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Punk, AmDrag, Low Ki, who grew up watching etc freshened things up. Now those guys are well into their 30's and most of them are making (well deserved) big money for TV promotions as they head into their veteran years.

Wrestling needs another kick start for sure. You won't see it coming, it will just happen.
 
Unless ROH is able to get a bunch of hot talent again, we're in for a long dry spell.

ROH is what it is, they have gone just about as far as they can go with the head dropping, athletic indy style. Cary Silkin recognized it years ago and ousted Gabe. There is no more "hot talent" that they already don't have. Look at Gabe and some of the guys he has pushed in DGUSA & EVOLVE. When Sami Callihan is the hot indy name of the moment, you know the well has dried up. There are some diamonds in the rough, but for the most part, the indy revolution of the last decade is dead. Mike Bennett is the big ROH prospect, and he's straight out of a WWE casting call. Mediocre worker with big muscles.

If the indy stuff or ROH was going to be the next big thing, it would have happened already. ROH already peaked asthetically. Give them credit for making it to national TV and briefly being on mainstream PPV. They really are the modern day ECW in that regard, coming up from nothing to national TV in a few years time.
 
ROH is what it is, they have gone just about as far as they can go with the head dropping, athletic indy style. Cary Silkin recognized it years ago and ousted Gabe. There is no more "hot talent" that they already don't have. Look at Gabe and some of the guys he has pushed in DGUSA & EVOLVE. When Sami Callihan is the hot indy name of the moment, you know the well has dried up. There are some diamonds in the rough, but for the most part, the indy revolution of the last decade is dead. Mike Bennett is the big ROH prospect, and he's straight out of a WWE casting call. Mediocre worker with big muscles.

If the indy stuff or ROH was going to be the next big thing, it would have happened already. ROH already peaked asthetically. Give them credit for making it to national TV and briefly being on mainstream PPV. They really are the modern day ECW in that regard, coming up from nothing to national TV in a few years time.

I'm a little worried about the talent well drying up. Charismatic young guys who can work a match like Aries and Alex Shelley are becoming fewer and further between. There's less and less guys who either A) command attention or even play a character well ala Fallen Angel, B) freak athletes from a Big Show/Lesnar or Rey/Juvi ends of the spectrum, or C) Guys who can work circles around anyone in a young Am Drag, Angle, HBK, Owen Hart, etc. Nothing looks great down the pipeline. Ask anyone on any board who is the next breakout star or who would make the most of a great opportunity and you get names of guys with average builds, slightly above average ring work, average charisma, average carpentry skills... Nobody stands out anymore. And the guys that do, like Richards, are hardly fresh faces. I really expected more kids who grew up during the Attitude era to become a part of a new wrestling boom era. That doesn't seem to be the case. It looks like it's going to be more of the same. String bean spot monkeys in the minors, failed pro athlete/body builders in the WWE...
SAMSUNG-SGH-A887/A887UCIJ1 SHP/VPP/R5 NetFront/3.5 SMM-MMS/1.2.0 profile/MIDP-2.1 configuration/CLDC-1.1
 
I'm a little worried about the talent well drying up. Charismatic young guys who can work a match like Aries and Alex Shelley are becoming fewer and further between. There's less and less guys who either A) command attention or even play a character well ala Fallen Angel, B) freak athletes from a Big Show/Lesnar or Rey/Juvi ends of the spectrum, or C) Guys who can work circles around anyone in a young Am Drag, Angle, HBK, Owen Hart, etc. Nothing looks great down the pipeline. Ask anyone on any board who is the next breakout star or who would make the most of a great opportunity and you get names of guys with average builds, slightly above average ring work, average charisma, average carpentry skills... Nobody stands out anymore. And the guys that do, like Richards, are hardly fresh faces. I really expected more kids who grew up during the Attitude era to become a part of a new wrestling boom era. That doesn't seem to be the case. It looks like it's going to be more of the same. String bean spot monkeys in the minors, failed pro athlete/body builders in the WWE...
SAMSUNG-SGH-A887/A887UCIJ1 SHP/VPP/R5 NetFront/3.5 SMM-MMS/1.2.0 profile/MIDP-2.1 configuration/CLDC-1.1

That made me LOL
 
ROH is what it is, they have gone just about as far as they can go with the head dropping, athletic indy style. Cary Silkin recognized it years ago and ousted Gabe. There is no more "hot talent" that they already don't have. Look at Gabe and some of the guys he has pushed in DGUSA & EVOLVE. When Sami Callihan is the hot indy name of the moment, you know the well has dried up. There are some diamonds in the rough, but for the most part, the indy revolution of the last decade is dead. Mike Bennett is the big ROH prospect, and he's straight out of a WWE casting call. Mediocre worker with big muscles.

If the indy stuff or ROH was going to be the next big thing, it would have happened already. ROH already peaked asthetically. Give them credit for making it to national TV and briefly being on mainstream PPV. They really are the modern day ECW in that regard, coming up from nothing to national TV in a few years time.

And even ROH was kind of an extension of ECW in a vague way...same area, Gabe involved...was kind of a natural transition for that branch of the tree to go...you had CZW as the more natural transition, which was just horrible wrestling and just oozed over the top violence...but this other branch focused on the in-ring stuff at the Indy level, which was a hidden caveat of ECW. Lots of good workers with lots of blended styles. The Indy World had seen enough of the ridiculous hardcore shit (no offense, Biss), and the Indy world, which had guys like Benoit, Jericho, Angle, etc. in the mainstream, just kind of drew their attention to companies that could field really good matches, and ROH was definitely that.

Right now though, where does the next wave of wrestling come from. In the 90's, in the same way Nirvana and the Seattle scene kicked pop music and garbage hair bands in the teeth, ECW stepped on the scene and literally laid the foreground for any and all ideas that were produced by WWF and WCW in the Attitude Era along with some foreign concepts that worked in Japan/Mexico. The business then saw its best numbers ever.

After ECW tanked, and WCW was purchased by the WWF, you had Indy Wrestling shift to something the WWF wasn't necessarily giving them, which was straight up great work rate (which, they kind of were, as the WWE might have been putting out their best workrate of their history on a consistent basis by Benoit, Jericho, Angle, Eddie, et al, but whatever). Much like the Hardcore ECW stars moved up to the big leagues...all of the Workrate ROH stars are now essentially in the "big leagues" (with too much respect given to TNA with that comment). ROH, right now, reminds me of ECW went to TNN. Instead of having a stacked roster with Taz, the Dudleyz, Shane Douglas, the Sandman, Bam Bam, Sabu et al, you went in with Rob Van Dam, Mike Awesome, and Justin Credible...in the same way ROH now enters without their stars, like AmDrag, Kings of Wrestling, Joe, et al, they go in with Davey Richards, Roddy Strong, and the All Night Express. So, its kind of hard for that little company that got to national TV to actually show why they even got to national TV without the top talent that essentially got them to that point.

But now, what is that natural transition...I have no idea...and there aren't many up and comers that make you really want to tune in, either.

Kind of in no man's land at this point.
 
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDnAb9LIVCg"]Ring of Honor Wresting - September 24th - Sinclair Broadcast Group Debut - YouTube[/ame]
 
Back
Top