The General Wrestling Thread

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Yeah, for example they have Seth Rollins feuding with Dean Ambrose, two of the most experienced guys down there. And according to the spoilers Cesaro will be programmed with Rollins. Not that im complaining about potential Tyler Black/Claudio matches, but it feeds into your point.

I suppose these experienced vets can flesh out there characters before they hit TV. And no matter how good you are, you need to learn the WWE TV style, but for guys like CC and others I would imagine its not much of a problem to slow things down.

I think fleshing out the character is the goal mostly down there. Maybe slowing things down for that style.

Funny enough, they had Mistico, a guy that should have hit developmental, up to the roster with no time in FCW, but made Claudio, Punk, and others have mandatory stops. Silly shit.

Guys like Black, Claudio, and some of the perma WWE Quadruple A talents like Idol Stevens and Conor O'Brien...and even some of them more established young guys like Consequences Creed and Alex Koslov...those are the guys that really should work the purely WWE developmental talents through. They shouldn't be putting the young bums together. What do you learn then?

 

[EmpireWF]

Mistico's contract is why they threw him right up on the road.

Everyone else, they want to break down until they work their style. Besides the fact they have their 50+ developmental guys working with the same group of guys in front of the same group of fans for years on end...kinda defeats the purpose of developing guys.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I've got a download of the Dragon Gate PPV from yesterday if anybody wants it. I watched the first 3 matches, so far it's very good.

Dragon Gate "THE GATE OF DESTINY 2011" 10/16/11

Osaka Prefectural Gymnasium

1. K-ness, Kenichiro Arai & Taku Iwasa vs. Super Shisa, Super Shenlong II & Kotoka
2. Yoshihiro Takayama, Don Fujii & "Hollywood" Stalker Ichikawa vs. Yasushi Kanda, Metal Warrior & Brodie Lee
3. Ryo Saito vs. Rich Swann
4. Open the Triangle Gate Title: Naruki Doi, Naoki Tanizaki & Kzy (c) vs. Masaaki Mochizuki, Susumu Yokosuka & Gamma
5. Open the Brave Gate Title: PAC (c) vs. Genki Horiguchi
6. Open the Twin Gate Unified Tag Title: CIMA & Ricochet (c) vs. Masato Yoshino & Dragon Kid
7. 6 Way Mask vs. Hair Survival Cage Escape Match: BxB Hulk vs. Cyber Kong vs. YAMATO vs. Shingo Takagi vs. Akira Tozawa vs. KAGETORA

 

[adembroski]

I've got a download of the Dragon Gate PPV from yesterday if anybody wants it. I watched the first 3 matches, so far it's very good.

Dragon Gate "THE GATE OF DESTINY 2011" 10/16/11

Osaka Prefectural Gymnasium

1. K-ness, Kenichiro Arai & Taku Iwasa vs. Super Shisa, Super Shenlong II & Kotoka
2. Yoshihiro Takayama, Don Fujii & "Hollywood" Stalker Ichikawa vs. Yasushi Kanda, Metal Warrior & Brodie Lee
3. Ryo Saito vs. Rich Swann
4. Open the Triangle Gate Title: Naruki Doi, Naoki Tanizaki & Kzy (c) vs. Masaaki Mochizuki, Susumu Yokosuka & Gamma
5. Open the Brave Gate Title: PAC (c) vs. Genki Horiguchi
6. Open the Twin Gate Unified Tag Title: CIMA & Ricochet (c) vs. Masato Yoshino & Dragon Kid
7. 6 Way Mask vs. Hair Survival Cage Escape Match: BxB Hulk vs. Cyber Kong vs. YAMATO vs. Shingo Takagi vs. Akira Tozawa vs. KAGETORA

PLZ PLZ PLZ

 

[Bigpapa42]

I need me some DG... Pretty please...?

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

PLZ PLZ PLZ

I need me some DG... Pretty please...?

check your PM's

 

[BigBiss]

Downloading wrestling is bad mmkay ... takes money out of pocket ... ramble ramble ... please PM ... need me some Tozowa and BxB

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Heel BB Hulk is something to be seen.

Who would of thought KENTA & BB Hulk would be heels at the start of the year?

edit-i'm also digging the deal where DG is split into two giant factions instead of 3-6 factions. Everyone is either "green" (face) or "blue" (heel). Makes it easier to follow.

 

[SHOGUN]

Can I has Dragon Gate link please?

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Call me late to the party, but I bought a $10 wire and hooked up my laptop to my flat screen and it was easily the best $10 i've ever spent. There is a world of difference watching this stuff on 50" in stead of 18", and it's making me seek out more stuff than ever.

 

[dave]

"Mr." Antonio Cesaso

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He seemed a little nervous, but at least he's basically doing an identical gimmick. The name doesn't work as well as Double C, but it's probably the least offensive FCW name since Daniel Bryan.

Alberto Del Rio called ... he wants his gimmick back.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Alberto Del Rio called ... he wants his gimmick back.

Except Claudio was doing this act years before Albert Del Rio even existed, when he was stinking up Mexico under a mask and getting his head kicked in by Mirko Cro Cop in MMA.

And besides, the gimmicks aren't even the same. Jesus, dave.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

OK dave, i'll play along...

Claudio Castagnoli has been doing some version of a snotty foreigner gimmick since he debuted in 2000:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudio_Castagnoli

Alberto Del Rio was doing this...

...until two years ago.

Shit man, Claudio even did the scarf years before ADR was conceived...

c'mon, dave!

And besides, if anyone is ripping someone off, ADR is ripping off this guy:

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Its wrestling.. everything is a recreation of itsself. Im not even sure why you give Dave a reply at this point, W2B.

 

[EmpireWF]

Mil Mascaras will be the first announced member of the 2012 WWE HOF class.

 

[FedEx227]

Newest addition to the Bleacher Report canon and my favorite to write yet.

WWE Video Games: Top 10 WWE Video Games of All Time
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/895771-wwe-video-games-top-10-wwe-video-games-of-all-time

The announcement of Brock Lesnar's inclusion in THQ's latest pro wrestling offering WWE '12 has been the talk of the wrestling world over the past week. WWE has a storied history of video games dating back to 1987's MicroLeague Wrestling on the Amiga and Commodore 64.

MicroLeague was a largely simulation, turn-based strategy based game it was the first game to carry the WWE license. Players chose a move from their wrestler's move set and depending on the situation, either yours or the opponents move will be successful.

MicroLeague is actually a stellar game for its time featuring ring introductions, interview segments with Mean Gene Okerlund and text commentary throughout the match.

MicroLeague set the standard for WWE games to come. While there was a lull period, most notably most of the non-PC based home console systems, the majority of WWE games have been above average to good.

With a catalog over 49 games deep it was very difficult to trim this list to just ten games, but these are the true standouts in my mind. Of course, this list is a matter of opinion however a majority of these titles are renowned and regarded as some of the top professional wrestling and WWE games.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I've got a download of the Dragon Gate PPV from yesterday if anybody wants it. I watched the first 3 matches, so far it's very good.

Dragon Gate "THE GATE OF DESTINY 2011" 10/16/11

Osaka Prefectural Gymnasium

1. K-ness, Kenichiro Arai & Taku Iwasa vs. Super Shisa, Super Shenlong II & Kotoka
2. Yoshihiro Takayama, Don Fujii & "Hollywood" Stalker Ichikawa vs. Yasushi Kanda, Metal Warrior & Brodie Lee
3. Ryo Saito vs. Rich Swann
4. Open the Triangle Gate Title: Naruki Doi, Naoki Tanizaki & Kzy (c) vs. Masaaki Mochizuki, Susumu Yokosuka & Gamma
5. Open the Brave Gate Title: PAC (c) vs. Genki Horiguchi
6. Open the Twin Gate Unified Tag Title: CIMA & Ricochet (c) vs. Masato Yoshino & Dragon Kid
7. 6 Way Mask vs. Hair Survival Cage Escape Match: BxB Hulk vs. Cyber Kong vs. YAMATO vs. Shingo Takagi vs. Akira Tozawa vs. KAGETORA

Ok, I finished watching this. HOLY SHIT. Easily the best show of 2011, blowing away Money in the Bank (which I loved), and one of the best big shows/PPV's I've ever seen. Even the comedy match was good, and I hate comedy matches. Even PAC was good, and I hate PAC (who, by the way, is fucking jacked now and clearly wants Vince's attention).

Hard to pick a best match, because even the opener was great, with a fun story of the fiery rookie trying to overcome a beating from the heel veterans.

Can't wait to hear what you guys think.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I want.

 

[s@ppisgod]

Newest addition to the Bleacher Report canon and my favorite to write yet.

WWE Video Games: Top 10 WWE Video Games of All Time
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/895771-wwe-video-games-top-10-wwe-video-games-of-all-time

I used to play the bejesus out of WM2000. My friend had Revenge, and we just switched back and forth between the two all the time. I remember liking Revenge more but it could be because I was more a WCW fan. But the game I most enjoyed was the old WWF King of the Ring on Gameboy. There weren't many wrestlers, and I think it was pretty hard for what it was. But having those shitty GB themes as a little kid was awesome.
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[EmpireWF]

Only time I saw Pac was his much hyped appearance ROH Final Battle (I think) in NYC. What a terrible performance that night and I've never gone back to watch anything of his since.

Without knowing much about him, there are guys who do his style much better (Bourne, even Jack Evans when he's active).

Has he improved over the past 3+ years?