The General Wrestling Thread

[FedEx227]

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

LOL @ The Rock's jizz coming out of his mouth.

 

[FedEx227]

Curious on your guys thoughts on this article and opinion.

WWE Survivor Series 2011: Is the WWE Hot Shotting the Rock's Return?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...es-is-the-wwe-hot-shotting-the-rockcena-angle

I will put this simply–why exactly are we seeing The Rock at Survivor Series 2011? Why so early? The original intention of The Rock vs. John Cena feud appeared to be a major clash at WrestleMania XXVIII. Granted, we are still going to see that but why are we seeing The Rock before WrestleMania?

Unfortunately, I do not have a ton of answers for you. I am, however, going to attempt to figure out WWE's reasoning and wonder if this is the right time for The Rock's return.

 

[EmpireWF]

I was feeling like you when they initially announced Rock would be wrestling at MSG awhile back....but now, it's bleh.

Rock returning in November will not have a negative effect on the WM buyrate (barring injury or something equally drastic). They also have plans apparently for Rock to work in some capacity at the Rumble.

Sure, they could keep him off TV until after the Rumble....but like you mentioned, they can use him to bump up buyrates to SS and Rumble right now.

Ideally, they never have Rock and Cena touch, so the key is to get the folks who are into it all wanting to finally see them wrestle. Of course, it's doubtful they can have that kind of self control from now until April.

 

[FedEx227]

I think that's my biggest disappointment. They'll probably do some sort of handshake into a Rock Bottom or FU finish. They'll still win easily. Blah blah.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Yes, they are hot shotting it.

They've hot shot EVERYTHING since the summer. Every possible plot point has been accelerated at light speed.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

This came up a few months ago. I think the WrestleMania number is going to be gigantic no matter what for Rock vs. Cena, so I see no reason not to use The Rock to milk these other buyrates up as well. I'd rather lose a few potential buys for WM from people who got thier Rock fix at SS or RR, while trying to add a shit ton of buys to SS and RR from people who are going to buy anything The Rock is involved in.

I think The Rock vs. John Cena is bullet proof at WM unless they have a match beforehand.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Also, even if you don't read the articles FedEx is writing, at least click his links. It goes a long way on the goofy B/R caste system. Help him get featured over the array of talentless mouth breathers who write the worst articles ever. Thanks.

 

[FedEx227]

Exactly. Thanks! I'm going to apply for Featured Columnist level in the next few days so I'll get more front page links, etc and try and attempt to bring some credibility to the WWE section of that site.

Worthless comments work too. Even if it's "I can't wait!" "GO ROCK!"

 

[FedEx227]

This came up a few months ago. I think the WrestleMania number is going to be gigantic no matter what for Rock vs. Cena, so I see no reason not to use The Rock to milk these other buyrates up as well. I'd rather lose a few potential buys for WM from people who got thier Rock fix at SS or RR, while trying to add a shit ton of buys to SS and RR from people who are going to buy anything The Rock is involved in.

I think The Rock vs. John Cena is bullet proof at WM unless they have a match beforehand.

Absolutely. From a business sense, I use to think it'd damage WM but I no longer think that way.

From a creative sense it's disappointing because I like the idea of WM being this ONE TIME event for The Rock. The idea that he's moved on from wrestling but this ONE guy drew him back for ONE night really works for me.

It's not a huge deal, mostly I'm worried on generic "tag together before WrestleMania" booking they are going to do.

Rock and Cena win. Rock hits Rock Bottom. At Royal Rumble Rock does something, Cena gives him FU. Etc, etc.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Now that thug_nigga has weighed in over on the Meltzer board, we can close this discussion.

 

[FedEx227]

I don't get the idea of waking up every day and spending time on a message board making dumb posts and trying to be some weird character. Like seriously?

 

[EmpireWF]

Absolutely. From a business sense, I use to think it'd damage WM but I no longer think that way.

From a creative sense it's disappointing because I like the idea of WM being this ONE TIME event for The Rock. The idea that he's moved on from wrestling but this ONE guy drew him back for ONE night really works for me.

It's not a huge deal, mostly I'm worried on generic "tag together before WrestleMania" booking they are going to do.

Rock and Cena win. Rock hits Rock Bottom. At Royal Rumble Rock does something, Cena gives him FU. Etc, etc.

Dont forget them becoming tag champs.

 

[FedEx227]

Oh god.

"VINTAGE" WrestleMania buildup!

 

[TheImmortalGoud]

How close is the gap between TNA and WWE now? I haven't paid attention to wrestling in 5-6 years.

 

[Bigpapa42]

How close is the gap between TNA and WWE now? I haven't paid attention to wrestling in 5-6 years.

Pretty much the same as its always been. The WWE is doing mediocre busines of late - meh ratings, buy rates aren't great. TNA managed to pop a record Impact rating last week - 1.4 - but has otherwise been at the same 1.0-1.1 range forever. TNA buyrates aren't made public but they reportedly still suck balls.

 

[EmpireWF]

How close is the gap between TNA and WWE now? I haven't paid attention to wrestling in 5-6 years.

They're still not in competition with each other because TNA is not a factor...so nothing has changed.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Vince McMahon is clinically insane...

Vince McMahon had freaked out several weeks back when seeing Ryder’s T-shirt. The phrase on the shirt that had been approved was, “Take care, spike your hair.” Anyway, because of the word “Spike,” that Vince hates right now (because TNA is on their network) Vince at one point talked about pulling the shirts off the market, but eventually agreed to stop all production of the shirts but sell the ones in stock. Now that those shirts are gone, a new Ryder T-shirt minus that phrase is out.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Vince McMahon is clinically insane...

Vince is a strange bird.

 

[EmpireWF]

Barry Windham suffered a heart attack yesterday and it sounds very serious according to Blackjack.