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Bigpapa42 said:
I'd have to rewatch the ECW one. Haven't seen it in awhile. Just remember watching it and feel that it was good but could have been more. The WCW one was the worst. Just glossed over so fucking much.

Bockwinkel was just great at antagonizing a crowd. Recall one Bockwinkel match I watched (might be on the AWA DVD...?) where he spent the first several minutes of a match avoiding the babyface, stalling outside the ring, and riling up the fans. By the time they finally got going, the fans were rabid. I don't get why heels won't do a lot of that anymore. Its like everyone became worried about "looking weak" by stalling and shit.
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AWA was booked to draw a number at the gate, any TV was used to get more people in the door at there events, now days the live events are run around filming for TV and then making money off the ads,

long story short they dont have time any more
 
Biss makes a damn good point...

In the E and I guess wrestling on TV in general, you gotta go in, get your stuff in, and get out so they can get the next guy in.

The first 5 minutes of a match where the heel would try and get the crowd going is a thing of that past in the format they are currently in. A shame. But it is, what it is.
 
True enough on the issue with TV and hitting those marks. But they could do it on house shows - they fill those with enough crap - and on PPV matches where time constraints aren't always as tight. Its not something they should doing all the time, with every heel. But you want to get one guy over as the bad guy, getting someone like The Miz or Alberto Del Rio to put in some cowardly heel work could do wonders.
 
I would not encourage stalling, because there would be far too many Larry Zbyszko's and far too few Bockwinkle's.

Nick Bockwinkle was just a complete pro wrestler in every way, and like Larry said, probably the best of the "stuck up" i'm-better-than-you erudite heels. Fans hated him because he was smarter and classier than them. It hit home.
 
Warner2BruceTD said:
I would not encourage stalling, because there would be far too many Larry Zbyszko's and far too few Bockwinkle's.

Nick Bockwinkle was just a complete pro wrestler in every way, and like Larry said, probably the best of the "stuck up" i'm-better-than-you erudite heels. Fans hated him because he was smarter and classier than them. It hit home.
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Another good point. It would have to be done right or it just looks weak and annoys rather than draws real heat.

Okay, I'll drop my dream of bringing back 1987 pro wrestling style.

I'm going home and watching some more of my Best of the 80s New Japan set. Fuck Raw.
 
Bigpapa42 said:
True enough on the issue with TV and hitting those marks. But they could do it on house shows - they fill those with enough crap - and on PPV matches where time constraints aren't always as tight. Its not something they should doing all the time, with every heel. But you want to get one guy over as the bad guy, getting someone like The Miz or Alberto Del Rio to put in some cowardly heel work could do wonders.
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issue there is the house show becomes practice for TV, now on the indys they should be able to pull it off, we have a guy named Evan Gelistico i think has a knack for it. but even then guys he wrestles gets annoyed with him for it
 
I don't know who this Brodus Clay guy is but he looks incredibly awkward trying to dance.... this is exactly why I stopped watching WWE.
 
All I have to say is I know NO ONE expected that kind of debut. This is two straight weeks now WWE has trolled us (last week with Y2J's return...which I have a feeling he might repeat tonight again).
 
Hype him like this:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm3RyUR57D8"]Brodus Clay Return - WWE Raw 11/7/11 Promo (1/9/12) - YouTube[/ame]

Debut him like this (1:50 onward):

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zy3CaRX8mY"]WWE Raw 1/9/12 Part 5 (HQ) - YouTube[/ame]

LOLWUT
 
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