The General Wrestling Thread

[IamMedellin]

I'm going to assume that if you didn't order tonight, you probably weren't going to at all, so...

if it's any consolation, I am watching more ROH now b/c of these links

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

The internet and wrestling, I think it gets too much credit as to what you're talking about. It's like the old argument that some people used with why Smackdown's ratings have historically been shit in comparison to Raw. It's not because the results of the show are on the net days in advance, it's because the show is treated like a C show with no importance and on a bad TV night.

The IWC is still small IMO. For the most part, whenever WWE (or even TNA for that matter) decide to throw in some worked shoot, inside type stuff, it almost always goes over the head of the live crowd. Plus, usually, the folks who fill up WWE arenas on a weekly basis are not smark marks, they're families (especially these days).

Of course, when they run places like MSG, Chicago, Montreal, Philly, those types of spots, you get more of the IWC crowd, but even still, I assume it's more of the vocal minority.

If anything, the popularization of the internet should mean promotions have greater means to make some money. Still, the bread and butter of WWE is TV driven, and while I'm not sure how effective they are with turning social media into actual dollars, I look at it as an untapped market (with WWE up to this point at least).

No idea about the other groups, but even then, it's cheaper to get word going on the internet then it is buying up TV spots in different markets I assume.

Strongly disagree.

If anything, the IWC is underrated. If you're of age where your parents allow you to go on the internet, odds are you are apart of the "IWC" in some regard.

John Cena has 1.6M+ Twitter Followers. Zack fuckin Ryder has over a half mill. RAW averages what...4-5M people a week?

I'm just saying, what you said was true maybe a decade ago. NOW...internet and wrestling go hand in hand.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I'm going to assume that if you didn't order tonight, you probably weren't going to at all, so...

 

FILEFACTORY
http://www.filefactory.com/file/c36...Young_Wolves_Rising_iPPV_x264-RUDOS_part1_rar
http://www.filefactory.com/file/c36...Young_Wolves_Rising_iPPV_x264-RUDOS_part2_rar

UPLOADED.TO
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NETLOAD
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http://rapidshare.com/files/2529533861/ROH.2012.03.04.Young.Wolves.Rising.iPPV.x264-RUDOS.part2.rar

TURBO
http://turbobit.net/x3dc4e183n5u/ROH.2012.03.04.Young.Wolves.Rising.iPPV.x264-RUDOS.part1.rar.html
http://turbobit.net/qv9jwaes7ite/ROH.2012.03.04.Young.Wolves.Rising.iPPV.x264-RUDOS.part2.rar.html

UPLOADED.TO
http://ul.to/6x7jpoq5/ROH.2012.03.04.Young.Wolves.Rising.iPPV.x264-RUDOS.mp4

Read the main event went on for a while, but was good. Will check that out.

 

[EmpireWF]

Strongly disagree.

If anything, the IWC is underrated. If you're of age where your parents allow you to go on the internet, odds are you are apart of the "IWC" in some regard.

John Cena has 1.6M+ Twitter Followers. Zack fuckin Ryder has over a half mill. RAW averages what...4-5M people a week?

I'm just saying, what you said was true maybe a decade ago. NOW...internet and wrestling go hand in hand.

I still think a fraction of those Cena followers would be considered IWC. People who buy subs to the Observer, Torch, PWI, read about and listen to all the insider stuff, I don't think those are the people you're talking about there.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Watched the first half of ROH ippv, nothing great so far but its decent.

 

[Mogriffjr]

good job Miz lol...

 

[SHOGUN]

I totally get that Rocky is working behind the 8-ball, but it's still really weird to see him losing the live segments battle. He was pretty good in the recorded bits tonight while Cena's segment came off like some political campaign ad.

And is it just me or was Cena no-selling The Rock's speech? The way he just grins while the Rock was in his face threatening to rip his throat out irked me.

 

[EmpireWF]

That's because Cena is never serious shogun. But this is the first week I "got it" with Cena. He's just not that intense type character like Stone Cold or even Hogan in big feuds.

He does his thing with comedy, throwing zingers out there. The only time I thought it was good was before Rocky came out, he was firing on all cylinders.

When Rock came out, he again seemed a bit off but after the "toothfairy" chants, he got all serious and called Cena his bitch at WM. Of course, Cena laughed at it and then talked tough when Rock left....but still.

Next week they're doing battle of the bands with a Rock Concert and Cena rapping. What, the, fuck?

Just once before WM, I know they wont do it, but it would be great for Rock to get sick of Cena's smugness and slap the fuck outta him. Don't have them brawl, have refs and officials break it up (a la Austin/Tyson) and Cena plays it as though he's done playing games.....would be a hot way to go into Mania.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

They want the crowd to side with Cena SO BAD.

The Rock is sandbagging.

It won't work.

 

[EmpireWF]

The one thing that really irked me tho was Cena talking about how if he loses WM, he "has no options."

The fuck? This is the same guy who's been in a bunch of his own movies/commercials/TV shows/albums/etc.?

I hope they don't get all cutesy with bullshit, it doesn't need to be rocket science. It can be simple and effective.

 

[SHOGUN]

The fact that Cena did most of his tough talk AFTER he leaves is what probably bothered me the most about it. That's some beta male shit.

And that Edge/Jamie Kennedy movie looks awful.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I'm now convinced Rock is sandbagging.

 

[dave]

Frankly, I think Cena and The Rock should stop all promos until WM.
They peaked last week.
Everywhere they go from this point from now won't work.
Two babyfaces rarely works. It's time for the WWE to just to let it go and let them wrestle.
Of course the WWE won't, but I suspect every promo from this point on will make people less interested.

Love how The Rock completely abandoned the Twitter references because of one bad week.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Cena's ethering Rock on the weekly.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Like I said, I'm convinced that Rock is sandbagging...

And

The WWE is sandbagging the title matches.

Punk-Jericho could steal the show if given a chance...it won't be given that chance. Would not be shocked to see the bullshit DQ or unfinishable finish.

Sheamus-Bryan could give you a legitimate 4* match (I think Sheamus is very much capable of being led to that kind of match with a stud like Bryan Danielson. But, it won't be given the chance and I'm banking on either another flukey Bryan win or a crappy Sheamus win.

 

[IamMedellin]

Jim Ross is politically lobbying for CM Punk vs. Chris Jericho to OPEN Wrestlemania. This isn’t unheard of since last year Edge opened by defending the World title vs. Alberto Del Rio. The logic behind Ross’ thinking is that by opening the show, it is likely that Punk/Jericho can get 20-30 minutes and have a show stealing match. If you wait until later in the show and end up putting them before HHH/Taker or Rock/Cena, it is likely that the other matches on the show may go long and thus cut into the time allotted for Punk/Jericho. If Vince McMahon looks at the time for the shows and sees that they are running low, he isn’t going to cut time from his two real main events.

http://www.worldwrestlinginsanity.com/am2/publish/Dawgs/T_G_I_F_with_Matt_Dawgs_030212.shtml

 

[EmpireWF]

Punk-Jericho could steal the show if given a chance...it won't be given that chance. Would not be shocked to see the bullshit DQ or unfinishable finish.
.

Three things you can guarantee are happening at WM this year...

1. Cena over Rock

2. Taker over HHH (along with a spot where HBK teases turning on HHH)

3. Punk/Jericho will have a clean finish.

 

[BigBiss]

so are we getting HBK vs HHH at SS?

 

[IamMedellin]

wtf

 

[EmpireWF]

opcorn:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiYkSylKpMU"]WWE Classics - Legends: "The Celebrity Effect" - YouTube[/ame]