The General Wrestling Thread

[SHOGUN]

CLAUDIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I hate how Smackdown pipes in boos for AmDrag when it's clear they are cheering for him. It's sooooooooooo gay.

:rofl: @ AJ getting boo'd.

How dare the fans react organically. We can't have that shit. You cheer who we tell you to cheer.

 

[SHOGUN]

Meh. Smackdown was OK tonight.

I was laughing my ass off when Khali was selling that chop block like it was death.

 

[IamMedellin]

So I hear Paul Heyman is Coaching Brock on his promos...

 

[IamMedellin]

So Is Alberto Del Rio just an Entrance and a floundering midcarder now?

 

[Dan The Man]

Nothing like a 20 minute segment leading to an epic staredown.

And holy fuck was Lesnar's promo awful.

 

[EmpireWF]

Holy fuck Brock was dying out there. Clearly forgot his lines, it was painful to watch.

Cena's hot/cold character is such shit by the way.

 

[SHOGUN]

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

"She had a mask on too, but damn that bitch had a fine ass!"

Flying grasshoppers, big ass crickets, baseball player with a baseball head....

lolololololol

Best one yet.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

LOL do these guys ever not do an entertaining promo? Love the Briscoes's.

 

[JayDizzle]

STAMFORD, Conn. – In accordance with its Talent Wellness Program, WWE has suspended Oscar Gutierrez (Rey Mysterio) for 60 days effective Thursday, April 26 for his second violation of the company's policy

Time to retire.

 

[JayDizzle]

lol.

 

[EmpireWF]

Time to retire.

lol

Honestly, he should have retired 2-3 years ago. His body must feel like shit at this point.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

lol.

What a glorious poster.

Best since Sheamus Extreme Rules poster

The worst thing they can do is break up Bryan and AJ completely...you should AJ always be obsessed with Bryan. Always looking to help him out in a match, etc. She should start to become a real heel, but a sympathetic heel because she just can't get over Danielson no matter how bad he treats her.

It would make the ultimate swerve on Danielson epic.

 

[FedEx227]

Then he can embrace her.

"AJJJJ............. I LOVE YOU"

Until Santino bites him in the arm with the cobra.

Cornette always said you can redo angles every 10 years.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Rey Mysterio stopped being interesting to me in about 2003. I forgot he was on the roster, honestly.

 

[BigBucs]

:huh:

 

[IamMedellin]

oh Rosita

oh Rosita

:fap:

 

[EmpireWF]

Why is Mark Wahlberg wearing Zubaz pants?

 

[FedEx227]

I know Warner hates the term overbooking but I wasn't sure how else to describe it. Anyway latest column is about the Punk/Jericho feud. Of course I'm not a featured columnist anymore so this is buried under the fold to make way for "Top 5 Reasons Why Cena Must Be Lesnar This Sunday".

How WWE's Overbooking Has Made Punk/Jericho Depressingly Boring
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...king-has-made-punkjericho-depressingly-boring

How did we get to this point? How is the feud between two of the best talkers in World Wrestling Entertainment history so painfully boring? Overbooking.

The feud between Chris Jericho and CM Punk will culminate this Sunday at Extreme Rules. After a good, but mildly disappointing WrestleMania matchup between the two, all eyes are on just how well Jericho and Punk can do in their return bout.

On a purely in-ring basis, the match will be great. Presumably, they will have more time than their WrestleMania match. It is the blow-off match of the feud and it's in Punk's hometown of Chicago, a typically ravenous WWE crowd.

Yet it feels so empty.

The feud began under the premise that Jericho fresh off a two-year layoff took offense to Punk referring to himself as the "Best in the World." Punk, not one to cater to anyone's thoughts, could not care less what the "Dancing with the Stars" alum Jericho had to say. It was simple and effective.

Two guys with relatively similar career paths taking claim of a title as the best wrestler in the world, not a wild claim for either. Somewhere along the line the storyline turned from simply "I am better than you" to a dreary, overly-dramatic challenge of Punk's straight edge style from Jericho.

Jericho began by berating Punk about his alcoholic father, an angle reminiscent back to Punk's famous feud with ECW and WWE alum Raven in Ring of Honor. Punk uttered the famous words, "My father is just like you." That promo and feud moved Punk to the top of the independent wrestling world and eventually to the WWE.


Jericho took this storyline a step further mentioning Punk's sister's issues in an elaborate plan to make Punk mad enough to give him a rematch. On the surface, it is a great concept for a storyline but without knowing the characters involved, it is very difficult to grasp why Punk was so angry.

As the storyline progressed, it became less about Punk’s family and more about his straight-edge lifestyle. A lifestyle Jericho openly challenged. Jericho made references to Punk's hypocrisy and the fact that he was secretly drinking alcohol despite preaching sobriety.

For some reason we were suppose to boo Jericho.

No doubt, it is a challenge of Punk’s devout lifestyle, and the fact that he so vehemently defended himself is commendable. Except of course, a little over a year ago we were suppose to hate Punk for embracing and defending that lifestyle.

The Straight Edge Society was essentially this exact storyline but flipped. Punk was a face during his initial WWECW run off the premise of being straight edge but the S.E.S. is fresh in our minds.

The WWE fan base has not been trained to think less of alcohol drinkers. In fact, one of their biggest stars ever was built largely on his constant post match drinking. He was the anti-hero everybody loved.

The Sandman in ECW rose to popularity not as a California surfer; nope The Sandman became a star as a crazy drunk who crushed cans on his forehead until it bled.

But forget all that, forget what Punk did no more than a year ago. Now you're suppose to hate drinking.


I understand the basic premise: we're suppose to respect Punk for his devotion to straight-edge living, but it is really hard to do for most fans above the age of 12. If you grew up idolizing Stone Cold Steve Austin because he kicked his boss’s ass then drank a bunch of beer in the ring, you cannot turn around and cheer Punk for being so against drinking.

It just does not work.

Moreover, the 12-and-under fan base likely does not care if Punk drinks or not. Alcohol use or abuse is not exactly something at the top of their minds.

The storyline since the turn to a personal debate of straight-edge living has rapidly lost steam. Crowd reactions and rating patterns show a general apathy to this entire angle, which is disappointing given the performers.

Instead of keeping the storyline simple and based off the idea of one guy being better than another, the constant overbooking and overwriting of WWE story lines strikes again.

There is a desire to make every feud anything but an athletic competition to decide who the better wrestler is.

If any feud or any performers deserved simplicity, it was these two.

At the end of the day, the match at Extreme Rules will be great, the crowd will be stellar as usual and we will look back fondly on this feud. But I cannot help but wonder how much better a simpler storyline would have been.