The General Wrestling Thread

[Warner2BruceTD]

Anyone got any thoughts on Best in the World 2012?

I would like to think Davey v. Steen 2 will be better than their first, which was good, but not amazing.

I am looking forward to Michael Elgin and Fit Finlay...that should be fun.

Finlay matches are either great or meh. Hia last round of EVOLVE matches were closer to meh. We'll see. Steen/Davey are going to tear the house down I would suspect the second time around. Davey talking legit retirement again.

Last ROH ppv was pretty incredible, one of the best shows of the year. It will be hard to match that.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

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Very ECW-esque promo, complete with (un)steady cam and big stiff who can't work or talk (911, Big Dick Dudley, Big Guido, etc) utilized properly as a menacing bodygaurd type. I can't believe Eli Cottonwood is still employed, but guys like Alex Kozlov and Colt Cabana get cut. Anyway, that's not my point here.

What do you guys think of this?

 

[SHOGUN]

I'm really digging it. Husky Harris has been shutting shit down on FCW with this gimmick. I can't wait until they bring him up to Smackdown or RAW.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

*THIS IS A PICTURE OF TAKA MICHINOKU NAKED*

You've been warned.

 

 

[SHOGUN]

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Great gimmick but it would be quickly dulled down in the E.

 

[EmpireWF]

Rollins vs. Ambrose from most recent FCW

 

[SuperKevin]

*THIS IS A PICTURE OF TAKA MICHINOKU NAKED*

You've been warned.

 

OH MY GOD. He has no penis!

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Someone CHOPPY CHOPPY HIS PEE PEE

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Kota Ibushi tweeted that.

Insert joke here.

 

[SuperKevin]

I like this Bray Wyatt gimmick a lot

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I just don't "get" Dean Ambrose, and never really did. What makes him so great?

Did nothing for me as Jon Moxley, does nothing for me now.

 

[SuperKevin]

I just don't "get" Dean Ambrose, and never really did. What makes him so great?

Did nothing for me as Jon Moxley, does nothing for me now.

That 20 minute match with Seth Rollis was boring as hell. The guy doesn't have the look. Doesn't have any in ring charisma. What's his deal?

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

That 20 minute match with Seth Rollis was boring as hell. The guy doesn't have the look. Doesn't have any in ring charisma. What's his deal?

People really, really love him. Has a rep for being a killer promo (I think he's ok, but honestly his DGUSA promos were pretty lame imo, although his FCW stuff is a little better), and supposedly he's a great worker. I think his work is solid, but I hesitate to call him very good, let alone great.

On the early DGUSA shows, he had the same kind of go away heat with me that somebody like Sami Callihan has with me now. Never dug him.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Alright, W2B, you read the Observer board...

What is going on with the WWE's "reshuffling" or "rebooting" of developmental?

There is a lot of talk for the past 3-4 months of shutting down FCW.
They "rebooted" NXT and now have it as its own "brand" with the young guys + the bottom quarter of the roster guys.
They have a new show named "WWE Main Event" starting on Ion later in the year...surely, a Superstars type show.
They still have Superstars as an online show.

Are they going forward with reshuffling how they go about their developmental system? What are the details from the dirt sheets.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I just don't "get" Dean Ambrose, and never really did. What makes him so great?

Did nothing for me as Jon Moxley, does nothing for me now.

I still think you're linking ol Mox up with Cannonball Sami and he's got that go away heat for you.

He is a pretty good character at the FCW level and a type of heel they don't often have. He's a good promo...good in the ring...he's got a good character going that can FOIL a talent well. People are looking for comparisons to Piper and Pillman, and I guess I see it...but he's not that.

Moxley would have been a character surely, Paul E. would have had a lot of fun with.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Alright, W2B, you read the Observer board...

What is going on with the WWE's "reshuffling" or "rebooting" of developmental?

There is a lot of talk for the past 3-4 months of shutting down FCW.
They "rebooted" NXT and now have it as its own "brand" with the young guys + the bottom quarter of the roster guys.
They have a new show named "WWE Main Event" starting on Ion later in the year...surely, a Superstars type show.
They still have Superstars as an online show.

Are they going forward with reshuffling how they go about their developmental system? What are the details from the dirt sheets.

NXT was already rebooted and aired internationally last week. Like you laid it, it's pretty much "no man's land" for bottom rung main roster guys and upper rung FCW guys. It's taped at Full Sail University, and is being taped "evergreen" so that it doesn't have to air in order or make any sense if it airs months after it's taped. The idea is each episode is self contained, and it's just matches with zero context or storyline. We'll see if that lasts.

Nobody knows what's up with FCW. They are still taping and it's business at usual. But at various points people have been told that it's dead or dying. Story changes almost every day, who knows.

They are still taping before RAW & SD, so Superstars lives, and I am assuming the new Ion show is basically Superstars Part Duex, and was able to be rolled out because they aren't taping the old NXT format anymore.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

"No Man's Land" can be good for these guys if its basically untouched by the main players in the WWE like Vince. When WWECW was at its best, it was after Vince stopped giving a fuck about the product of that show and whoever was running it was able to develop coherent story and characters...it was the last time "new" faces appeared on WWE TV from a developmental that have done anything significant...

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

"No Man's Land" can be good for these guys if its basically untouched by the main players in the WWE like Vince. When WWECW was at its best, it was after Vince stopped giving a fuck about the product of that show and whoever was running it was able to develop coherent story and characters...it was the last time "new" faces appeared on WWE TV from a developmental that have done anything significant...

FWIW, the first ep got good reviews. I only saw bits and pieces, so I cant comment. Im woefully behind again thanks to a glut of puro that came out in the last week (fuck you, RUDOS!).

I'm like you, I like a solid C-show that Vince ignores with talented underneath guys allowed to do fun things and have good matches. I loved WWECW at various points, I was on a Superstars kick a while back (Curt Hawkins, Usos, and Tyson Kidd kicking ass), and everybody remembers Velocity and how awesome it was about a decade ago. So you make a good point.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Hey larry, right after I typed that response, I found out Superstars was pulled from the WWE youtube channel & website.

So who knows. There is talk Superstars will now be a syndicated recap show (awful) for international.