The General Wrestling Thread

[FedEx227]

Wait - what ever happened to "I love you, pop"?

Vince can fire people again?

You aren't suppose to remember a year ago, idiot.

 

[JimLeavy59]

The hulkamanics are going to run wild on themselves when they watch the sex tape brother.

And Monday's WWE Raw television show drew a 2.78 rating

 

[Bigpapa42]

And Monday's WWE Raw television show drew a 2.78 rating

Vinnie Mac bringing the the big numbers back!

Find it hilarious that all us "idiot" IWC fans, that the WWE loves to make fun of, all saw this happening six months out when they first decided they were going to solve all their woes by moving Raw to 3 hours...

 

[BazookaJoe5]

WWF 1992 and that's all folks.

Much of WWF/WCW/ECW from the late 90s just don't hold up at all no matter the epic rosters and great storylines back then.

I always see people say this and don't really understand what they mean by it. I may be one of the few but I could watch the stuff from that period all day long. Not even just the Rock/Austin/HHH/Taker type stuff, but the midcard stuff too.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

I always see people say this and don't really understand what they mean by it. I may be one of the few but I could watch the stuff from that period all day long. Not even just the Rock/Austin/HHH/Taker type stuff, but the midcard stuff too.

I agree with you, but I can also see it from the other side. For example, when you are 10-16 or thereabouts, DX going around crotch-chopping and doing their thing is funny. To see them doing that now on reruns isn't the best thing out there, and for those people, they would rather just have their memories of it.

I'll go a step further from that time and say that I would love to see them re-do with different superstars the Two Man Powertrip. Probably one of my favorite storylines that never came to fruition because of injury.

 

[s@ppisgod]

I always see people say this and don't really understand what they mean by it. I may be one of the few but I could watch the stuff from that period all day long. Not even just the Rock/Austin/HHH/Taker type stuff, but the midcard stuff too.

I thought this about both WWF and WCW until I got 24/7 about 5-6 years ago, and ended up FFing through about 2/3rds of Raw and a little less than half of Nitro. Raw is really bad, even some of the shows where they started to turn it around. nitro had some real stinkers with guys like McMichael, Sullivan, Norton, etc. Raw seemed to be fun at the time, but it ages SOOOO horribly. I think because they tried so much to push the envelope, and they did sometimes. But then everything they did, they ended up topping. So years later, it's just 3rd rate wrestling and storylines that have lost a lot of luster. Except Hart vs. USA. GOD, that was a money storyline. To this day, there's been nothing like it and the crowds eating it up really props it up even moreso.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Just watched the Documentary portion of the CM Punk: Best In The World DVD...

The best featurette of any superstar the WWE has ever done. The only way to describe it would be of CM Punk saying "if you're going to do a documentary on me, you're going to do it right"...it was fantastic...

First 35m is all about the Indy scene...his initial work with the LWF, IWA and eventually got real down and dirty and talked ROH...lots of ROH footage, lots of LWF and IWA footage. Very impressed.

I thought they had a lot of the right people there to make contributions.

They move on the OVW stuff and spent 7 minutes or so on that portion of his career. Got real indepth with his feelings of the place and his relationship with Paul Heyman.

The WWE stuff is in-sane-ly candid from EVERYONE. From Paul Heyman to Michael Hayes to Triple H to Jim Ross. Names weren't mentioned, but Michael Hayes and CM Punk basically call out Johnny Ace and even Vince McMahon as non-believers in the guy...Hayes even calls himself out. Punk gets very candid about a lot of the stuff that was awesome to him (SES) and stuff that really frustrated him.

Took it home with "the Promo" and the Money in the Bank match...stops right there and just focuses on Punk and where he's at in the WWE right now.

I think the raw and candid nature of it, coupled with the detailed early career makes it the best featurette work the WWE has ever done...as good as the ECW documentary, which IMO, was the pinnacle of WWE DVD releases.

The match listing is good...BUT, nothing pre-OVW. Only one OVW match (not even the best Brent Albright match) and it jumps right into his ECW career. It has some classic staples of Punk's career...his match v. Morrison on ECW TV where he won the title...the Money in the Bank at WM 24...his No-DQ match with Regal...the stuff with Mysterio and Jeff Hardy...Money in the Bank 2011...v. Jericho at WrestleMania...and v. Daniel Bryan at Over the Limit...all of those matches are 4* or better.

I only saw the DVD and the Blu Ray has some extra goodies on it in the actual featurette including working with Brent Albright and details on the December to Dismember PPV where Punk was Heyman's handpicked guy to go over before Vince got his hands on it and wanted Lashley put over.

Overall, must buy for EVERY ONE. It is just well made. Covers a lot. Steps out of the "WWE Universe" which is more than appreciated. I thought the candid nature of the quotes by unlikely sources like HHH and Michael Hayes was very good. Just awesome stuff all around. Perfect mix of "the man" (the getting to know the guy stuff), the chronicle of his career (matches, feuds, etc), and the backstage stuff.

CM Punk: Best in the World combined with the ROH release of The Summer of Punk and "Punk v. Joe" and you have 3 sets that chronicle a guys career up to this point better than anything you'll find. It basically covers most of CM Punk canon right there.

 

[JimLeavy59]

Anyone think its a real provability that the Wrestlemania 29 main event will be a triple threat between CM Punk,The Rock, John Cena? I personally think the Punk vs Rock match will end in a screwy finish at Rumble.

 

[Derrville]

CM Punk is just a pawn in the World of the Rock and Cena.

 

[JimLeavy59]

CM Punk is just a pawn in the World of the Rock and Cena.

Meh I think the Rock vs Punk build will make for better TV than Rock vs Cena.

 

[IamMedellin]

God Damn It I need to find this Punk dvd online

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

God Damn It I need to find this Punk dvd online

 

http://www.putlocker.com/file/647D01D8192ABDC6

:tiptoe:

 

[IamMedellin]

Hell of a Documentary, right up there with edge's n jericho's

Quick question, was there a reason they couldn't use the Raven ROH footage?

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Hell of a Documentary, right up there with edge's n jericho's

Quick question, was there a reason they couldn't use the Raven ROH footage?

Raven tried to sue WWE a few years back, maybe they don't want to pay him royalties or something.

Has Raven been used on the newer ECW DVD's?

 

[Bane]

Just watched the Documentary portion of the CM Punk: Best In The World DVD...

The best featurette of any superstar the WWE has ever done. The only way to describe it would be of CM Punk saying "if you're going to do a documentary on me, you're going to do it right"...it was fantastic...

First 35m is all about the Indy scene...his initial work with the LWF, IWA and eventually got real down and dirty and talked ROH...lots of ROH footage, lots of LWF and IWA footage. Very impressed.

I thought they had a lot of the right people there to make contributions.

They move on the OVW stuff and spent 7 minutes or so on that portion of his career. Got real indepth with his feelings of the place and his relationship with Paul Heyman.

The WWE stuff is in-sane-ly candid from EVERYONE. From Paul Heyman to Michael Hayes to Triple H to Jim Ross. Names weren't mentioned, but Michael Hayes and CM Punk basically call out Johnny Ace and even Vince McMahon as non-believers in the guy...Hayes even calls himself out. Punk gets very candid about a lot of the stuff that was awesome to him (SES) and stuff that really frustrated him.

Took it home with "the Promo" and the Money in the Bank match...stops right there and just focuses on Punk and where he's at in the WWE right now.

I think the raw and candid nature of it, coupled with the detailed early career makes it the best featurette work the WWE has ever done...as good as the ECW documentary, which IMO, was the pinnacle of WWE DVD releases.

The match listing is good...BUT, nothing pre-OVW. Only one OVW match (not even the best Brent Albright match) and it jumps right into his ECW career. It has some classic staples of Punk's career...his match v. Morrison on ECW TV where he won the title...the Money in the Bank at WM 24...his No-DQ match with Regal...the stuff with Mysterio and Jeff Hardy...Money in the Bank 2011...v. Jericho at WrestleMania...and v. Daniel Bryan at Over the Limit...all of those matches are 4* or better.

I only saw the DVD and the Blu Ray has some extra goodies on it in the actual featurette including working with Brent Albright and details on the December to Dismember PPV where Punk was Heyman's handpicked guy to go over before Vince got his hands on it and wanted Lashley put over.

Overall, must buy for EVERY ONE. It is just well made. Covers a lot. Steps out of the "WWE Universe" which is more than appreciated. I thought the candid nature of the quotes by unlikely sources like HHH and Michael Hayes was very good. Just awesome stuff all around. Perfect mix of "the man" (the getting to know the guy stuff), the chronicle of his career (matches, feuds, etc), and the backstage stuff.

CM Punk: Best in the World combined with the ROH release of The Summer of Punk and "Punk v. Joe" and you have 3 sets that chronicle a guys career up to this point better than anything you'll find. It basically covers most of CM Punk canon right there.

great fucking post. i really thought it was the best made to date. CM Punk is just amazing and is def my favorite WWE Wrestler.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Raven tried to sue WWE a few years back, maybe they don't want to pay him royalties or something.

Has Raven been used on the newer ECW DVD's?

Yes.

Raven is seen in a clip or two in the Punk DVD. Could have been from another Indy though.

 

[IamMedellin]

Yes.

Raven is seen in a clip or two in the Punk DVD. Could have been from another Indy though.

I only saw old raven ECW footage on the Punk dvd, everything else covering their feud was ROH footage of Punk and still pix of punk and raven...it was just wierd bc even Samoa Joe footage was included

 

[JimLeavy59]

Former WWE United States Champion MVP took a shot at Ryback when a Twitter user asked MVP if he trained him. MVP replied:

“No because if I did he’d be able to wrestle.”

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

So, I'm gonna be going to Jersey for WrestleMania this year.

Card is shaping up to be too damn good and the whole weekend is looking to be a monster with the Indies coming to town. Looks like an overall can't miss weekend, so, I won't.

Warner, you still attending?

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I'm 80%.