The General Wrestling Thread

[Warner2BruceTD]

When is the next WWE ppv?

Sunday

 

[BigBiss]

It reminded me of some of the shit Fritz Von Erich pulled, including faking a heart attack after David Von Erich died and drawing money off of it. Also, selling thousands of autographed 8X10's of David that were signed by office staff long after David was dead. They squeezed every dollar out of that kid's death.

At the end of the day though, if Lawler was ok with it, I don't take issue. Lawler is an old school carny who probably doesn't give a shit. He doesn't take this stuff seriously, it's just a silly business to him.

I Assume Lawler wrote most of it has his finger prints all over it

 

[JimLeavy59]

Lawler is old school so I understand him being cool with it, But I didn't like that they had footage of him being put into the ambulance. That really makes me think if Owen had lived Vince would have shown footage of that.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

PAC is now known as...Adrian Neville lol

 

[EmpireWF]

Apparently, WWE may sign Ricky Reyes.

If it's true, nice.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

So, they turned Joe Anoa'i (Rosey's brother) into Roman Reigns...I kinda dig the name...looks the part, got the charisma, can talk a little bit, still learning to work though, but definitely an athletic guy.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Apparently, WWE may sign Ricky Reyes.

If it's true, nice.

Wait, wut?

Ricky Reyes of ROH fame? Are you sure you arent confused with Rocky Romero?

Ricky Reyes is the shits and like 5'3". Romero is all kinds of awesome...and like 5'5"....but still, he is all kinds of awesome.

I'd rather see Reyes signed because I love watching Romero in New Japan, but i'd feel terrible for Romero & Homicide that the shitty member of the old Havana Pitbulls got signed before they did. I'd even sign Julius Smokes before Reyes.

 

[EmpireWF]

If Jinder Mahal can get a paycheck and a push, why not the less entertaining half of the Pitbulls?

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

If Jinder Mahal can get a paycheck and a push, why not the less entertaining half of the Pitbulls?

Jinder Mahal is pretty good on NXT.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Jinder Mahal is like 6'3", with a nice physique (no homo), and a unique look for the company.

Ricky Reyes is a midget, with no charisma, who is a shitty worker, with a generic look.

I'm baffled by this one.

DOES ANYBODY IN WWE EVER WATCH THE SECOND BIGGEST ORGANIZATION ON EARTH? Romero is just like Reyes...if Reyes had charisma, a good look, and was a world class worker.

I'm just so confused right now.

 

[JimLeavy59]

http://www.wrestlezone.com/editorials/264053-jumped-the-shark-part-2-millions-less

And another good article by Mark Madden.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

LOLOLOLOL @ Sandow staying in character for interviews...

Did He Read Comics as a Kid?: As a child I was not allowed to read those things. Grandma Sandow would read from the likes of "War and Peace" for my bedtime stories. And as I developed into a teenager, it was something that I never, ever, got the opportunity to dive into. However with all these movies coming out it's impossible to go outside without being influenced by [them] and I've actually seen quite a few: "Marvel's The Avengers," "Iron Man," and there is quite an interest. I can only wonder if I was somewhat deprived as a child from being told I can't read comic books and things of that sort.

On Trying to Use Debate Before Resorting to Physical Altercations: Perhaps before we go banging things with a hammer or flying through the air smashing spaceships and doing lord knows what with lord knows who, we can sit down, and attempt to talk our problems out. Reason should be the spearhead in the weapon of combat. Before physical combat is even engaged, combat of reason and intellects should be engaged, because if we can do that, we can save ourselves a lot of trouble, a lot of physical and mental anguish.

On His Friendship With Cody Rhodes: Off the top of my head, there are flaws with everyone, which is testament to Cody Rhodes in his intellect as a gentleman. I am very particular about whom I associate with, and I will neither associate with a brute, ruffian, or an ill-mannered ignoramus. You know, Cody has all those bases covered in that he is a gentleman, he knows how to conduct himself in and out of the ring and it is a pleasure tagging with him.

On Sunday's Survivor Series Match: Well number one because I am on it. Number two, because Mick Foley's team is named after someone who is not even competing in the match. And if you look at, on one hand you have myself and Cody, and then Kane and Daniel Bryan. Cody and I have proven that we have the ability to beat Kane and Daniel Bryan in the past, you have Wade Barrett, a bare-knuckle fighter versus Kofi Kingston, the man jumps around now claiming he can fly. He actually has a t-shirt that says "I Can Fly"—that's ridiculous. Does the man think he's Spider-Man or Iron Man, with his suit on, claiming he has the ability to fly through the air like some kind of a bird? No. Then we have Alberto Del Rio and Randy Orton; Alberto clearly demonstrates class in and out of the ring. Whereas Randy Orton names himself after a reptile and then you have the Miz, who was on our team and now switched to this team so the man can't even make up his mind. So it logically dictates which team will be the victors this Sunday.

 

[JimLeavy59]

Sandow is one of the few bright spots in the WWE right now.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

LOLOLOLOL @ Sandow staying in character for interviews...

Did He Read Comics as a Kid?: As a child I was not allowed to read those things. Grandma Sandow would read from the likes of "War and Peace" for my bedtime stories. And as I developed into a teenager, it was something that I never, ever, got the opportunity to dive into. However with all these movies coming out it's impossible to go outside without being influenced by [them] and I've actually seen quite a few: "Marvel's The Avengers," "Iron Man," and there is quite an interest. I can only wonder if I was somewhat deprived as a child from being told I can't read comic books and things of that sort.

On Trying to Use Debate Before Resorting to Physical Altercations: Perhaps before we go banging things with a hammer or flying through the air smashing spaceships and doing lord knows what with lord knows who, we can sit down, and attempt to talk our problems out. Reason should be the spearhead in the weapon of combat. Before physical combat is even engaged, combat of reason and intellects should be engaged, because if we can do that, we can save ourselves a lot of trouble, a lot of physical and mental anguish.

On His Friendship With Cody Rhodes: Off the top of my head, there are flaws with everyone, which is testament to Cody Rhodes in his intellect as a gentleman. I am very particular about whom I associate with, and I will neither associate with a brute, ruffian, or an ill-mannered ignoramus. You know, Cody has all those bases covered in that he is a gentleman, he knows how to conduct himself in and out of the ring and it is a pleasure tagging with him.

On Sunday's Survivor Series Match: Well number one because I am on it. Number two, because Mick Foley's team is named after someone who is not even competing in the match. And if you look at, on one hand you have myself and Cody, and then Kane and Daniel Bryan. Cody and I have proven that we have the ability to beat Kane and Daniel Bryan in the past, you have Wade Barrett, a bare-knuckle fighter versus Kofi Kingston, the man jumps around now claiming he can fly. He actually has a t-shirt that says "I Can Fly"—that's ridiculous. Does the man think he's Spider-Man or Iron Man, with his suit on, claiming he has the ability to fly through the air like some kind of a bird? No. Then we have Alberto Del Rio and Randy Orton; Alberto clearly demonstrates class in and out of the ring. Whereas Randy Orton names himself after a reptile and then you have the Miz, who was on our team and now switched to this team so the man can't even make up his mind. So it logically dictates which team will be the victors this Sunday.

This reminds me of a fairly well known wrestler who uses a very goofy sort of gimmick, who I approached to do our podcast. He responded to all of my emails in character, and agreed to do the interview. I called him to sort out a date/time, and he was still in character. I explained to him that the style of interview we do is no kayfabe, and asked if he would be willing to drop the gimmick.

"What's a gimmick?" was his response.

So yeah, I thanked him for his time a politely declined. The emails were hilarious, though.

 

[EmpireWF]

Eric Young doesn't do gimmicks bro.

 

[Bigpapa42]

EY was my thought as well.

Or maybe Santino

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

EY was my thought as well.

Or maybe Santino

Not a WWE guy...you gotta go through their people for a lot of those interviews.

My random guess is a favorite of all...El Generico. Especially if you got some EG WEB TRANSLATE at the end of every email. Which, would have been awesome.

 

[BigBiss]

Some of the best "Gimmick Guys" are like this ... Might even know how this is lol

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Out with it, Lanza.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

In the same vein as The Rise and Fall of WCW, The Best of Monday Nitro, Starrcade: The Essential Collection, and The Best of The Clash of the Champions...the WWE provides us with yet another stinker in their WCW DVD release catalog.

Easily one of, if not the worst documentaries they have produced on a topic. Legitimately, nothing of substance. Lots of re-hashed, old interview footage. Very little in regards to new interviews. Lots of interview time with, of all people, Cody Rhodes, who gives his perspective as an 11 year old on EVERYTHING. Nothing substantial from Nash or Waltman (two of the only members of the nWo that they actually get new-ish perspective on.

The documentary basically is a rudimentary biography of the nWo. With lacking key interviews from key players and lacks any kind of in-depth topics discussed or anything substantial behind the scenes.

The only little bits of entertainment were Ted Dibiase saying Eric Bischoff purposely stole the spotlight as the mouthpiece of the nWo from him, when that is exactly what he was bought in and paid for.

Otherwise, you get Cody Rhodes who tries and gives perspective as an 11 year...I guess it has its part, but perhaps because he had so many soundbites, he is in the film way too much. Joe Hennig is in the film for a little bit, too. Most notably giving his input on Curt Hennig's time in the nWo for a brief segment. You get very little from the always in-character Arn Anderson...Booker T chimes in with nothing substantial...Bill Demott, Dusty Rhodes, et al provide nothing.

There is nothing discussed in regards to the downfall of WCW and the nWo being one of the major reasons why. They briefly touch on Sting. NOTHING in regards to Goldberg. They basically wax poetically for most of the film and them quickly talk about the group growing, the Wolfpack being lame, and then quickly move on to the quick WWE incarnation of the nWo, which bombed. Nothing in regards to the politics of the nWo outside of Nash saying "well, we kept renegotiating and getting paid more...and, well, sooner or later you stop caring what they have you go out there and do."

They were able to get Vince Russo for a few soundbites, and sadly, he is a guy you want to hear more from, but alas, nothing. There is also nothing in regards to how the WWF reacted to the nWo (DX, the birth of "Attitude", etc.).

Overall, possibly one of the worst documentaries they have ever done. It is really bad.

The extras...they are ok...but, the WCW main event scene really sucked during this era...there aren't any matches you would want to go back and watch. They are also missing some key match moments, too.

The BluRay extras disc might be the best part of the set...it has the Legends Roundtable, that discussed the nWo at length with Nash, Dillon, Hayes, and JR. It is more informative and in-depth than the documentary for Christ's sake.

Overall...F.

Sad, too, coming off an epic CM Punk DVD.