The General Wrestling Thread

[EmpireWF]

lol RAW did a 2.2 I know it was Christmas Eve but that really says something about the state of this company hell I heard Tribute to the Troops did a really bad number.

The # means nothing.

In two weeks, Rock is back and the number will be fine.

 

[JimLeavy59]

The # means nothing.

In two weeks, Rock is back and the number will be fine.

And in a few months he'll be gone.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

lol RAW did a 2.2 I know it was Christmas Eve but that really says something about the state of this company hell I heard Tribute to the Troops did a really bad number.

Tribute to the Troops was shown on a Wednesday.

The Christmas Episode of RAW is always one of the lowest rated of the year, being that it was actually ON Christmas Eve...of course it does awful.

 

[JimLeavy59]

 

[EmpireWF]

15 years ago was WCW's most successful PPV (buyrate wise)...STARRCADE 97.

Fucked up the execution of the finish, but the whole build up dating back to September 1996 was brilliant. All downhill afterwards though....well, with the exception of when Goldberg was hot...till they fucked that up, too.

 

[SuperKevin]

Fantasy booking here but I would love to see a huge Vince McMahon vs CM Punk angle similar to the old Austin/Vince stories. Vince is angry that CM Punk is "tarnishing" the legacy of the title with his reign and starts going to no end to put a top to it. It'd never happen but you can work the part timers into it by having McMahon call in legends to try to end Punk's reign. Almost set up a guantlet of former champs to work little 1 month stories. It'd only work if they could get guys like Edge and Austin cleared and Batista to agree to come back. You could then end it with a huge Brock Lesnar turning on Heyman to be Vince's hired gun.

 

[SuperKevin]

They need to seriously trim some of the comedy out of the midcard as well. Guys like Zack Ryder, Brodus Clay, Santino, and R Truth are clowns now and it benefits nobody but the merch vendors. You give them a push and it's useless because you can't take them seriously and then it BURIES whoever they happen to beat. I love the Bro gimmick Ryder has but if you were to take a brand new fan and have him watch what TNA has done with Robbie E in the last 4 months and what WWE has done with Zack Ryder, Zack Ryder looks like the comical ripoff because they use him like shit.

Also, I'd drop the Funkasaurus gimmick and turn Brodus Clay into a monster heel like One Man Gang. Take advantage of his obvious size advantage and "street" cred as a former bodyguard for Snoop and make him an ultra agressive badass. Build the gimmick by having him drop a bunch of matches due to blatantly ignoring the commands of the 150 lb ref.

Santino has fallen so far that he's pretty much unsavable. I have never seen someone so deserving of a rebranding but they can't do it because he sells Cobra socks to 8 year olds. If I were to do something I'd play up his "European" roots and align him with Cesaro. Have Cesaro knock some sense into him about he is pandering to the imbiciles in America and toughen him up.

I'd flat out fire R-Truth. Fuck Little Jimmy

 

[JimLeavy59]

You could also add that heels don't win clean enough.


This is pretty cool.

I think Veda Scott could be great in the WWE if they paired her up with Otunga as his secretary and actually have give the guy a bit of a push in the mid-card.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

They need to seriously trim some of the comedy out of the midcard as well. Guys like Zack Ryder, Brodus Clay, Santino, and R Truth are clowns now and it benefits nobody but the merch vendors. You give them a push and it's useless because you can't take them seriously and then it BURIES whoever they happen to beat. I love the Bro gimmick Ryder has but if you were to take a brand new fan and have him watch what TNA has done with Robbie E in the last 4 months and what WWE has done with Zack Ryder, Zack Ryder looks like the comical ripoff because they use him like shit.

Also, I'd drop the Funkasaurus gimmick and turn Brodus Clay into a monster heel like One Man Gang. Take advantage of his obvious size advantage and "street" cred as a former bodyguard for Snoop and make him an ultra agressive badass. Build the gimmick by having him drop a bunch of matches due to blatantly ignoring the commands of the 150 lb ref.

Santino has fallen so far that he's pretty much unsavable. I have never seen someone so deserving of a rebranding but they can't do it because he sells Cobra socks to 8 year olds. If I were to do something I'd play up his "European" roots and align him with Cesaro. Have Cesaro knock some sense into him about he is pandering to the imbiciles in America and toughen him up.

I'd flat out fire R-Truth. Fuck Little Jimmy

Vince wants RAW to be a variety show. There is going to be tons of different shit going on on RAW and as a result, guys are going to get some goofy gimmicks and kid friendly stuff.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Its kind of funny that Zack Ryder actually won a feud against his boy Dolph Ziggler...and then did absolutely nothing despite getting huge pops and merch pushing.

Their non-push of Ryder is one of the more baffling things they've done in years. No reason not to push him to the mid-card and keep him consistently on TV.

 

[JimLeavy59]

Vince wants RAW to be a variety show. There is going to be tons of different shit going on on RAW and as a result, guys are going to get some goofy gimmicks and kid friendly stuff.

Well this shit isn't working, I thought the point of going PG or more "kid friendly" was to attract more sponsorship like Ford,and Budweiser?

 

[s@ppisgod]

15 years ago was WCW's most successful PPV (buyrate wise)...STARRCADE 97.

Fucked up the execution of the finish, but the whole build up dating back to September 1996 was brilliant. All downhill afterwards though....well, with the exception of when Goldberg was hot...till they fucked that up, too.

I'm in June of 97 in re-watching, and it's pretty epic. Sting comes down from the rafters at what seems like 100 mph sometimes, fucks shit up, looks weak NEVER. Just dropped down in the last one I watched picked DDP up, and flew back up to the rafters at insane speed again. Fucking awesome. DDP is booked well, too. Really sucks knowing it's going to lead up to sooooo much crap.

What's weird is talking about WCW and ECW the same way older fans used to talk about WCCW or AWA, when I'd be like "who gives a crap about that dead piece?" Makes me feel old.

 

[JimLeavy59]

I'm in June of 97 in re-watching, and it's pretty epic. Sting comes down from the rafters at what seems like 100 mph sometimes, fucks shit up, looks weak NEVER. Just dropped down in the last one I watched picked DDP up, and flew back up to the rafters at insane speed again. Fucking awesome. DDP is booked well, too. Really sucks knowing it's going to lead up to sooooo much crap.

What's weird is talking about WCW and ECW the same way older fans used to talk about WCCW or AWA, when I'd be like "who gives a crap about that dead piece?" Makes me feel old.

I feel bad for current fans all they have is this current WWE and Impact Wrestling granted I think with the internet I could still see one of the current indy feds taking advantage of it there is something there to be tapped into.

 

[FedEx227]

Well this shit isn't working, I thought the point of going PG or more "kid friendly" was to attract more sponsorship like Ford,and Budweiser?

Yes, car companies and brewers definitely like to target the under 15 crowd.

 

[JimLeavy59]

Yes, car companies and brewers definitely like to target the under 15 crowd.

Should have said "family friendly"

 

[BigBiss]

You could also add that heels don't win clean enough.


This is pretty cool.

I think Veda Scott could be great in the WWE if they paired her up with Otunga as his secretary and actually have give the guy a bit of a push in the mid-card.

seems much more likely they would just rip the gimmick off then hire her ... that said she is great promo wise

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

The other problem with Veda is that while she is a very attractive girl, she's "real world" attractive. WWE looks for bikini models and barbi dolls with fake tits who have tons of work done, who get ribs removed and never eat anything but lettuce.

 

[IamMedellin]

The other problem with Veda is that while she is a very attractive girl, she's "real world" attractive. WWE looks for bikini models and barbi dolls with fake tits who have tons of work done, who get ribs removed and never eat anything but lettuce.

wat about AJ?...

wait....Are those B's fake :stoned:

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

from the Observer board...

Angle alert.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Jericho is a Twitter GOAT. He just trolls the hell out of people.