The General Wrestling Thread

[EmpireWF]

Doesn't the guy in the 2nd row look like a chubby Overeem?

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Remember about two or three years ago, they had this whole initiative that if you wanted it, you had to go out and grab it by the throat and take it? So Ryder did, and it amounted to nothing. Domino did that video thing and tried to create his own gimmick, and it basically got him heat and he's never been seen again. Dibiase tried it, and he's never used and on the verge of being cut.

Ryder could be your wholesome white meat babyface feuding with a guy like Cesaro for a long time. He could be that "personification of Americans" and Cesaro could go out and make a point of attacking...

Ryder has been over for two years now without being on TV really, and you could get him involved at any time...but nope.

He's not great in the ring, and he's not particularly good on the microphone in front of a live crowd...but he's got charisma and a charm about him.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

PW Ponderings is tweeting that they hear El Generico has signed with the WWE.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

ROH World champion Kevin Steen worked an independent show over the weekend after being "severely injured" the night before at Ring of Honor's TV taping, according to the show's promoter.

The claim was made in a story published by Arda Ocal for the Baltimore Sun on how Smash Wrestling arranged for a headline match of ROH champ Steen vs. DGUSA champion Johnny Gargano on January 6 in Toronto.

The match ended up being changed to a tag match - where Steen took the loss - due to Steen's physical condition, according to Smash promoter Sebastian Dastranj.

“One of the individuals from the match (Steen) ended up severely injured the night before,” Dastranj said. “He couldn't walk or get up off a chair properly backstage. In most events he probably would have canceled due to injury, but in this case he didn't want to short-change the people who came out for this match. I was worried some fans would think that we advertised a singles knowing we would go with a tag match (all along). Nothing could be further from the truth.”

Also included in the story are quotes from Steen on taking the tag loss and dealing with consequences later, DGUSA booker Gabe Sapolsky on giving permission for the original Steen vs. Gargano match to take place, and Gargano on buzz for the advertised singles match.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/...hamp-was-booked-20130108,0,2131199,full.story

Great article by Arda Ocal, digging into the politics of booking champ vs champ.

 

[FedEx227]

PW Ponderings is tweeting that they hear El Generico has signed with the WWE.

If true, I'm saddened as a fan of his work but I'm happy as hell for the guy. He deserves the money for busting his ass and I'm genuinely intrigued on how they handle him.

 

[BigBiss]

PW Ponderings is tweeting that they hear El Generico has signed with the WWE.

Im calling it right now ... he will not turn up on Spike TV

:wave:

 

[FedEx227]

One of the writers on VoicesofWrestling.com, Jason Chae, was certainly not feeling Rock's promo yesterday. This is a pretty good column IMO and a real good look at just how silly The Rock was yesterday.

Last night on Raw, CM Punk delivered one of the most compelling promos I have ever seen during a pro wrestling show. It came off honest and emotional even though he was clearly trying to be a jerk to fit his heel persona. Punk again did what he does very well, blur the lines of reality and pro wrestling and what he said resonated with anyone who actually cares about wrestling. He knew exactly what subjects to hit on to get a reaction from the internet fans.

Point out that Daniel Bryan is being wasted? Check. Point out how stupid the Broadus Clay gimmick is? Check. Talk about how actual wrestling skills and mic work are not as important as who the company deems is popular. Check. Mention that the WWE fan base is too stupid to handle complex material. Check.

He set the table for a great exchange between him and the person who will challenge him for the WWE Championship in a few weeks at the Royal Rumble, The Rock. Unfortunately, minutes later as The Rock came to the ring and started speaking, it was clear The Rock wasn’t interested in doing a serious wrestling angle and instead wanted to change the direction to a pseudo comedy bit.

http://www.voicesofwrestling.com/2013/01/09/the-rock-is-awful/

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I am completely indifferent towards The Rock. I though the Popeye & Cookie Puss stuff was out of place in this particular angle, but it doesn't matter what me or Chae thinks, because the match is going to draw huge, Miami will sell out Smackdown, and then The Rock will draw huge again at WrestleMania.

From an entertainment standpoint, The Rock's goofy promos stopped entertaining me a long time ago. I'm sure the match will be awesome though and i'm looking forward to it. I may actually pay for it to enjoy it in HD. So if they are getting my money (which they get like once every three years or so), they must be doing something right.

 

[EmpireWF]

:rofl:

 

[FedEx227]

Agreed. I almost enjoy it because it's another thing that fires up the old "IWC" or at least the subset of intelligent/super-fans that get pissed off by comedy and like some of the blurred reality promos that Punk gives. It's a great contrast and it keeps both parties involved. The common fan loves it because The Rock is back and they want to chant something stupid and the hardcore fans want Punk to shut Rock up.

I think deep down, while I don't "enjoy" what The Rock does, I do enjoy it because Punk presents that alternative.

 

[EmpireWF]

Is it not incredibly ironic how for the next 2-3 weeks, Punk and Rock have taken the roles of Rock and Cena, respectively, from last year's WM build?

I wonder if that's what they intended...but Rock's playing to the common denominator if his first night back is what we can expect.

 

[SuperKevin]

 

Alberto Del Rio beat the Big Show and won the WHC tonight at Smackdown in a Last Man Standing match. Why?

 

[JimLeavy59]

 

 

[BonesMahoney95]

Doesn't the guy in the 2nd row look like a chubby Overeem?

lol that's Roy Miller, Bucs DT. Gerald McCoy is to his right.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

PW Ponderings is tweeting that they hear El Generico has signed with the WWE.

Can't wait for Tim Tucker to debut.

 

[SuperKevin]

WWE's uber PC creative department isn't going to stand by and allow a white Canadian to pretend to be a Mexican lucador.

 

[dave]

-Randy Orton, super WWE babyface, kills three guys at once with minimal effort and ensures that 3MB will never get over, thus ensuring they will never be of use. Remember when WWE used to book babyfaces in 1 vs 2 and 1 vs 3 and 2 vs 3 matches every week? Awful then, awful when they do it now.

-The Sheamus/3MB backstage segment was embarrassing to watch.

The whole 3MB thing is stupid. Heath Slater works ... he's always been that gimmick ... but the last time I checked, no teen stars wore a turban and everyone knows Drew McIntyre isn't that gimmick.

The 3MB thing is one of the dumbest gimmicks ever. Hell, they make me want the Spirit Squad back.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I have a feeling Show dropping the title to face ADR is going to set up a quick title switch to put the Smackdown belt on Ziggler.

I bet the writers just realized they have until WrestleMania to put the belt on Ziggler.

 

[SuperKevin]

Agreed. It's much more reasonable to expect Ziggler can beat Del Rio than the Big Show. I'd look for him to cash in and win the belt at Royal Rumble

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Agreed. It's much more reasonable to expect Ziggler can beat Del Rio than the Big Show. I'd look for him to cash in and win the belt at Royal Rumble

Ziggler is supposed to feud with Cena until the Rumble...so I'd expect Ziggler to win the belt sometime after the Rumble.