The General Wrestling Thread

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I agree. Only reason I'm confused is because I don't know what they do with most of those guys on their own. Matt Hardy and Jimmy Jacobs will be fine. It's Compton, Rhino, and Rhett Titus who have no place anymore. Plus they spent all weekend teasing a possible Adam Cole/Steve Corino partnership

They should all be low-mid card players anyway...so, that is where they should be.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

ROH Best in the World 2013

-Mike Bennett v. BJ Whitmer - Basic opener. Bennett is going to be doing some jobs on the way out, certainly. Some heel shenanigans go bad, Whitmer wins. Decension within the heels on the way out. Whatever match.

-Adrenaline Rush v. The American Wolves - I love the Wolves...I love me some ACH. I'm really looking forward to this one. It is excessively clear that ACH is the star of Aderenaline Rush. This guy is very over in ROH. Strap up the ol Rocket Ship on ol boy, seriously. Davey heels it up a little bit, too. The Wolves win when ACH misses a flippy bastard special. Really fun match.

-Roddy Strong v. Adam Cole - This should be a fun one. These guys have a little history as they are starting to give Adam Cole a little edge (the same edge they should have given him over a year ago, but whatever). It had a pretty flukey ending to the match, but, you can see the full heel turn coming for Adam Cole. These two are capable of a better match with a longer format in some sort of blowoff match.

For what its worth, this crowd is HOT.

-Tammaso Ciampa v. Michael Elgin - OH BOY...you know your boy is excited for this one. I was really starting to dig Ciampa before he was injured. He comes back and the crowd is HOT HOT HOT for ol boy. I really dig the back and forth with these two early on in the match. Love the upswing of big move after big move in typical Elgin-match form. Ciampa can work this style really well. This is one of those matches were EVERYONE looks good regardless of outcome. RD Evans really puts Ciampa over on commentary. The match format really gets Ciampa over and establish him that he's back. Elgin wins, but I think this was a really well structured match and the commentary really put over Ciampa well. This show will have a hard time having a better match that this one. A legit **** from me. They beat the shit out of each other.

Intermission...a good little Briscoe Boys promo package.

-Matt Taven v. Jimmy Jacobs v. Jay Lethal - I really don't have much interest in this match. Jacobs and Taven are channel changers. I love Lethal, but I just don't see a title change coming. Match is basically a melee. Spot after spot. It is actually entertaining...Jay Lethal pulls off a Hoopla Hotties top, Truth Martini shenanigans...and Jay Lethal ends up superkicking a Hoopla Hottie...and Matt Taven wins. WTF? What a terrible ending to a decent melee match.

-reDRagon v. C+C Wrestle Factor v. SCUM - Again, not much interest in this match. It was pretty flat throughout with a seemingly abrupt finish. C+C is the second best black team in ROH and SCUM sucks. reDRagon is growing on me, but they need to have matches against people I give a shit about. Neither of these teams are it. Very skippable.

-Kevin Steen v. Matt Hardy - If anyone can get an entertaining match out of fucking Matt Hardy in 2013, its gotta be Steen. Match starts with a Corino promo. That nigga can draw some heat. steen requests a No DQ stip, gets it...and here we go. Pretty decent hardcore-style match. SCUM interferes. Hardy wins. Lots of post-match beatdowns.

-Jay Briscoe v. Mark Briscoe - Definitely looking forward to this one. They are giving this one a real big match feel to it. Playing up the brother v. brother angle big time, which they should. Bret v. Owen this was not, but it was still a solid match. Mark hit Jay with everything he's got. The Jay comeback and the end were incredibly flat which knock this match down a bit. Overall, not bad. Could have been better though.

Overall...decent show. Ciampa and Elgin is something you should go out of your way to see. I liked the Wolves and Adrenaline Rush match, too.

 

[SuperKevin]

I was there live Larry and the crowd LOVED the Elgin/Ciampa match. 20 minutes with no dead spots

 

[EmpireWF]

Elgin's gotta be one of the 5 best wrestlers in the world at this point.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Elgin's gotta be one of the 5 best wrestlers in the world at this point.

I like Elgin, but he's a guy that definitely is a love'em or hate'em type of guy.

If I'm ROH, I give Elgin a shot with the title. It was time a long time ago, but they gave Jay his time to shine, they had a Briscoe v. Briscoe match for the title. They got rid of SCUM. Elgin, I believe, is next in line for a title shot. I'd give him the belt and see what he can do. Jay has a short shelf life as a champ, IMO. I'm not overexposed to Elgin, so that style has not worn thin on me. When I watch Elgin, its typically a treat.

 

[JimLeavy59]

Why is the WWE wasting money on Brad Maddox?

 

[SuperKevin]

Elgin's gotta be one of the 5 best wrestlers in the world at this point.

I was unaware that he had that kind of endurance. I assumed he was a good 7-10 minute match guy at most but he really surprised me with his ability to go the distance

 

[SuperKevin]

I think I'm going to go to the ROH show in NYC in August and Death Before Dishonor in Philadelphia in September. Really enjoying the atmosphere at ROH shows

 

[JimLeavy59]

I'm sorry but AJ and Big E should be faces like Dolph.

 

[EmpireWF]

So, the Briscoes are done with ROH? What about the belt?

This apparently from Mike Johnson.

perhaps more of an extended hiatus...but they could be gone.

 

[SuperKevin]

Jay's wife is about to have a baby any day now. Could just be some paternity leave

 

[JimLeavy59]

Cena needs to get in a career ending car crash.

 

[JayDizzle]

Sharpest Dressed Strongman in the game today.

 

[krulmichael]

"I know I look good, this ain't no Mens Wearhouse!"

 

[JayDizzle]

Danielson's table bomb from the apron on Orton = Mike Awesome

Clutch suplex of Orton's through the table = Taz

ECW lives a little tonight.

 

[JayDizzle]

Danielson carries another bum to a *** star match.

Took tables, a few stiff kicks and a kendo stick but that crafty son of a bitch pulled it off.

Now this "weak link" shit can be done with and we can get to Danielson/Cena.

 

[krulmichael]

Danielson carries another bum to a *** star match.

Took tables, a few stiff kicks and a kendo stick but that crafty son of a bitch pulled it off.

Now this "weak link" shit can be done with and we can get to Danielson/Cena.

Calling Orton a bum? I know you consider yourself a wrestling guru, but a bum? :yao:

 

[JayDizzle]

Calling Orton a bum? I know you consider yourself a wrestling guru, but a bum? :yao:

Other than what we claim to know about him fucking up when he's not on-camera, what has he done other than be fodder for storylines?

I'm not expecting him to chase for the title 24/7 (because he's boring when he's not a heel champ) but he got lumped in with Kane/Danielson and that petered out when they all found out they couldn't beat The Shield.

Both guys in tonight's Main Event deserve a better opportunity but won't get one unless it's on the mid or upper-card and while Cena's champ.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

So, the Briscoes are done with ROH? What about the belt?

This apparently from Mike Johnson.

perhaps more of an extended hiatus...but they could be gone.

All signs are pointing that Mark and Jay Briscoe have wrestled for the last time in Ring of Honor. Yes, that Jay Briscoe, the ROH World Champion. Ring of Honor did not have Mark Briscoe appear on the TV taping on Sunday. They ran an angle that he had been injured the night before against Jay Briscoe leading to Kevin Steen getting involved in the Steel Cage Warfare match that was the main event of the tapings and what ROH built up to in thr 4 weeks of TV. However, Ring of Honor also did an angle where, after defeating Matt Hardy, to retain the ROH Championship, Jay Briscoe was attacked by Hardy and Steve Corino and a couple of other heels and laid out and beaten down..pretty much destroyed and it was described to be as a heavy, heavy, heavy angle. And in speaking to a number of Ring of Honor sources, over the last 12 hours or so, that was the last scheduled appearance for either Briscoe brother for the forseeable future. There is talk they may be departing the company and at the very least they will be on a hiatus for some time. This has nothing to do with the Jay Briscoe Twitter incident, it was something arranged way prior to this PPV & TV taping. The story making the rounds is that they were leaving for greener pastures, but they may not be leaving. Atthe very least they will be on a hiatus and what the hell this means for the ROH Championship, your guess is as good as mine. Common sense would dictate that Briscoe will be stripped of the belt if he is not coming back or if he's going to be on an extended hiatus, similar to TNA stripping Rob Van Dam of his championship in 2010.

Also, neither Briscoe is even under contract.

KENNY KING, YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKERS

They've also abandoned live iPPV's and will now offer all shows VOD & DVD only. Supposedly they will be uploaded the next day. This is what they currently do for house shows.

 

[krulmichael]

Other than what we claim to know about him fucking up when he's not on-camera, what has he done other than be fodder for storylines?

I'm not expecting him to chase for the title 24/7 (because he's boring when he's not a heel champ) but he got lumped in with Kane/Danielson and that petered out when they all found out they couldn't beat The Shield.

Both guys in tonight's Main Event deserve a better opportunity but won't get one unless it's on the mid or upper-card and while Cena's champ.

I agree he's boring in general if he's not a heel (not like he doesn't want to be one, he's been pushing for the longest time now), but I think he's one of the top workers in the company when he's in the ring. You're comment just made me think you were lumping him in with Khali or some shit lol.