The General Wrestling Thread

[Warner2BruceTD]

Had to step out to take care of something for work, but regardless of the match, good job for TNA giving the ball to Sabin. I just wonder how long he's holding it for.

likely just enough time to allow them to do a Hogan/Bully match without having to book around the title

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Legit dying at these geeks on twitter/forums bitching about Sabin as a WORLD CHAMPION, as if it matters who your champion is in 2013, especially in TNA of all places.

TNA doesn't have a single difference maker on the roster, and will do the same 1.2 million viewers and half filled arenas no matter who has the title. It makes no difference. It was a cool TV moment, it's getting some buzz, so who cares? This isn't 1988 where putting the belt on the wrong guy will kill business.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I thought it was a really bad match.

 

[EmpireWF]

I didn't like it either.

I figured Bully would hold it through October and then drop it to whomever (AJ?) in a big celebration moment. To throw it away on a meaningless TV show to Sabin in the manner it happened, ugh. The guy who's knee is apparently injured is okay with flying to do aerial moves and then needs to use the hammer to finally beat Bully.

Maybe it's just I don't like Sabin as a singles guy.....and I know none of this impacts business one way or the other, but they're just gonna have Sabin drop it right back anyway. What's the point?

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

The commentary was very refreshing without Tazz.

It was really good when Tenay was all alone, like Joey Styles circa 1996.

The whole show had a big show feel, it really felt different than a standard Impact.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I didn't like it either.

I figured Bully would hold it through October and then drop it to whomever (AJ?) in a big celebration moment. To throw it away on a meaningless TV show to Sabin in the manner it happened, ugh. The guy who's knee is apparently injured is okay with flying to do aerial moves and then needs to use the hammer to finally beat Bully.

Maybe it's just I don't like Sabin as a singles guy.....and I know none of this impacts business one way or the other, but they're just gonna have Sabin drop it right back anyway. What's the point?

It was 30 minutes long and sloooooooooooooooooooow. Bully Ray beats him up for what...25 of it, where he is fumbling around with his gear, doing the slow burn beat down, MEM and A+8s come down, do their thing, and then Sabin gets a cheapy win. No sir, I didn't like it.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

The commentary was very refreshing without Tazz.

It was really good when Tenay was all alone, like Joey Styles circa 1996.

The whole show had a big show feel, it really felt different than a standard Impact.

JB is infinitely better than Taz. You forget that Tenay can be decent if he's got people around him that don't drag a show down.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

If you've seen me raving about Main Event, hopefully you didn't finally give it a shot tonight. Worst show in ages.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

If you've seen me raving about Main Event, hopefully you didn't finally give it a shot tonight. Worst show in ages.

I always check spoilers and see whats featured. Main Event is a fast forward-centric show. I'll get to the one good match and thats about it.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I always check spoilers and see whats featured. Main Event is a fast forward-centric show. I'll get to the one good match and thats about it.

It's always the same formula. First match is around 20 minutes, and usually very good with your Cesaro/OrtonSheamus types. Then they give you one or two more shorter ones. If it's Tons of Funk or divas I handwave it, but sometimes you get Uso's or a good enhancement match with a good jobber type like Slater, Gabriel, etc.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

It's always the same formula. First match is around 20 minutes, and usually very good with your Cesaro/OrtonSheamus types. Then they give you one or two more shorter ones. If it's Tons of Funk or divas I handwave it, but sometimes you get Uso's or a good enhancement match with a good jobber type like Slater, Gabriel, etc.

Its definitely a pick your spots show. Its pretty decent, I like it...its hit or miss for me, which is why I gotta use the remote for it.

 

[JimLeavy59]

Hail Sabin

 

[s@ppisgod]

TNA is so fucking WCW 2001. Hey, this thing doesn't have much more left in the tank, let's change things up finally and push new main eventers. Cue the Price is Right horn.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

http://www.wrestlenewz.com/wrestlin...-time-for-spike-to-cut-a-deal-with-new-japan/

DO IT.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Would I be off base or out of line to say that the Top 5 workers (in no order) in the WWE right now are...

Daniel Bryan
Antonio Cesaro
Sami Zayn
CM Punk
Dean Ambrose

?

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Also, should I be watching Total Divas...?

Look at this and tell me you weren't holding back laughter.

http://www.tmz.com/2013/07/19/john-cena-girlfriend-pops-dreaded-question/

 

[EmpireWF]

I hope that was a rib from everyone on Cena.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Would I be off base or out of line to say that the Top 5 workers (in no order) in the WWE right now are...

Daniel Bryan
Antonio Cesaro
Sami Zayn
CM Punk
Dean Ambrose

?

Ziggler, Christian, Rollins in the conversation. Rollins bumps are out of this world. Orton when in there with good people. Same for Cena.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Ziggler, Christian, Rollins in the conversation. Rollins bumps are out of this world. Orton when in there with good people. Same for Cena.

Jericho would come in for me @ #6...I thought he had a really strong year...he came in right way working strong TV matches. The Fandango WM PPV sucked, but Fandango isn't a good in-ring worker and it was his first actual match under the lights. But he has followed it up with some strong work with Punk at a PPV and some more strong TV work.

I gotta throw in my boy KREW-GAAAAAA if we are expanding the list to 10+...thinking back, since the Observer year starter, he's been consistently pretty damn good on NXT.

Obviously Ziggles is in there. I am not sure where I place him. I can obviously see a +workrate guy, and he has flashes of it, but he hasn't worked with anyone that can really bring a ****+ match out of him yet. (edit - he had a really good match with Punk last year) I've seen Punk and Bryan get fantastic TV quality matches out of Mark Henry. I really like Ziggler, but I think there is a cutoff line from that elite group and then Ziggles. Ziggles and Rollins are bump machines. They have made a lot of guys look good because of it.

Orton needs a really high end worker to get something really good out of him. He's down on the list, IMO. Young Lex Luger-esque just an obviously better athlete. Personally, I don't like watching Orton unless he's in there with someone I really like.

Cena is always the most underrated worker. Once in a while he has a match with a lesser guy that he really has a solid match with and he can be taken to ***** with the right people and hold up his end and then some. If there is a most underrated worker every year, its probably Cena, simply because everyone shits on him, but he's always got a few "Best of" matches in the WWE by year's end.

 

[s@ppisgod]

Christian is like a grittier, less flashy Edge. I can't put either of them in a top 5, but damnit if they don't make EVERYTHING they're involved in consistently above average.

Punk
Ambrose
Ziggler
Bryan
Cesaro
HM: Rollins. Love that guy. It's awesome that he's getting a push in the big leagues from the get-go. I wasa little worried.