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LiquidLarry2GhostWF said:
The most underrated pair of eyes in the history of wrestling. The man knows talent. He's still the best announcer the WWE has to offer. Why they have Michael Cole out there over JR never ceased to amaze me. I loved JR-Regal booths on NXT.
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Not being a dick here but witch guys do you think are Jim Ross guys? ... I personal think he is rated pretty fairly
 
Dirtsheets already spreading rumors that Ross was essentially railroaded out because of Flair's part of the 2K press conference SummerSlam weekend. By Vince no less.
 
ThomasTomasz said:
Dirtsheets already spreading rumors that Ross was essentially railroaded out because of Flair's part of the 2K press conference SummerSlam weekend. By Vince no less.
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I don't know if this is true and won't believe it until Meltzer/Keller/Johnson report it, but I thought Ross was incredibly unprofessional during that event and contributed to the train wreck even though he tried to save it at the end. So I won't be shocked if its true.
 
A correction from last week. Nick Bockwinkel does not have Alzheimer’s according to wife Darlene. She said that the family would like to keep private his condition. This one is heartbreaking because Bockwinkel was always such an intelligent, confident, insightful person who I learned a ton from watching perform and talking with over the years and a real credit to this industry. I remember him at King of Indies in 2001 watching Bryan Danielson matches with Bockwinkel and Red Bastien and how impressed they were of many of the wrestlers in that tournament, with neither having any negativity toward style changes or that there were only a few hundred people in the room. Bockwinkel and Bastien both gave standing ovations after Danielson’s matches with Brian Kendrick and Low Ki. Bockwinkel said that he would have been proud to be able to work with Danielson at any point in his career. He went out of his way to talk with him and tell him that. He has extensive knowledge of the industry like few because not only did he travel all over the world as a top star and world champion (Jerry Lawler, who saw and faced most of the major world champions of the past 40 years, will always tell you he felt Bockwinkel was the best of all of them), but he had knowledge dating back to the 40s and 50s. His father, Warren, was one of the top stars for decades, starting out in St. Louis at the same gym as Lou Thesz. In those days, the pro wrestling gym in St. Louis that the guys started out in was far more like an MMA gym today than a pro wrestling gym, in the sense it was almost all shoot training early on and working training came much later. Bockwinkel went to high school in San Francisco when his father was working for Joe Malciewicz with John Madden (Bockwinkel was a grade ahead) when both were local football stars. and Lou Thesz would always tell the story of Nick Bockwinkel as a baby peeing on him.
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Sad if true. I've never heard a bad word about Bockwinkel. An all time great in every way, and probably the major star you would point to if you wanted to counter the wrestling stereotype.

If you don't know much about him, do yourself a favor and spend a couple of hours watching is promos & matches. Heenan & Bock in the AWA was gold. I love his stuff with Hogan & Hennig.
 
I am just watching this SummerSlam WWE 2K14 sit down thingy...it just seemed like a mess from jump street...

You got JR, possibly with one or two drinks in him...you got Ric Flair definitely pretty buzzed...you got Steve Austin egging everyone on...Mick Foley egging Flair on...JR swearing every 5 minutes...and everyone else just staying out of the way.
 
LiquidLarry2GhostWF said:
I am just watching this SummerSlam WWE 2K14 sit down thingy...it just seemed like a mess from jump street...

You got JR, possibly with one or two drinks in him...you got Ric Flair definitely pretty buzzed...you got Steve Austin egging everyone on...Mick Foley egging Flair on...JR swearing every 5 minutes...and everyone else just staying out of the way.
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Yeah, I watched it last night too. Kind of a shit-show, but not really as bad as people made it out to be. They made it seem like Flair was full-on Namath status. Not really. He was clearly more than a couple of drinks into the night and rambled, but what else are these things for? The people that come out for these or watch them at home hope that these guys never shut up. JR made things worse, yes. But they've dealt with much bigger debacles. It just comes down to JR not being well-liked by Vince. He's a whipping boy and always on a short leash. He's got a strong opinion and sticks to his guns. The guys that last around Vince aren't ever described that way. From Dunn to Laurenaitis to Patterson and Briscoe, they're all guys that make a career of agreeing with Vince and not making waves.
 
s@ppisgod said:
Yeah, I watched it last night too. Kind of a shit-show, but not really as bad as people made it out to be. They made it seem like Flair was full-on Namath status. Not really. He was clearly more than a couple of drinks into the night and rambled, but what else are these things for? The people that come out for these or watch them at home hope that these guys never shut up. JR made things worse, yes. But they've dealt with much bigger debacles. It just comes down to JR not being well-liked by Vince. He's a whipping boy and always on a short leash. He's got a strong opinion and sticks to his guns. The guys that last around Vince aren't ever described that way. From Dunn to Laurenaitis to Patterson and Briscoe, they're all guys that make a career of agreeing with Vince and not making waves.
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I think his departure will be felt in NXT, and I have a feeling they will have JR back in some capacity within a year. His experience and evaluations are much needed, and I think he'll want to come back as well.

You are certainly right about Vince, but the only thing that will trump that is being good for business. I think JR, in just about any capacity, is good for business.
 
JR is valuable, and I certainly think he'll be back in some small capacity. But the problem for him is developmental is on auto-pilot now. It's too deep, it has too much money and too much talent. It's too big to fail. Even without JR, they're going to continue to pump out great talent that work the way they want.
 
Joe and Rich are back with a monster of a podcast (over two hours) talking all things professional wrestling including a heated debate on the current push of Daniel Bryan, this weekend’s New Japan Pro Wrestling iPPV, Wrestle-1′s first show and follow-ups and a historic 80th anniversary show for CMLL. We also preview the Night of Champions pay-per-view, discuss issues in TNA and have some breaking news on Voices of Wrestling’s involvement with the Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame. Check it out and make sure to rate, review and subscribe to the podcast on iTunes, listen to us on Stitcher and of course follow us on Twitter @VoicesWrestling.

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LiquidLarry2GhostWF said:
So, TNA is now trying to rip off the Summer of Punk storyline for AJ Styles?
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Probably. I don't get it. They had momentum with him, then made him lose and drop it for no reason. Only to continue on and have him take the BFG series anyway. They've always been direction-less, for the most part. But now, I can't even begin to understand what they're trying for....
 
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