The OFFICIAL Peyton Manning Sweepstakes thread...

[f16harm]

I guess none. But people seem to think that the cap numbers post-lockout are set in stone and crippling to an organization if they're anywhere near the max.

That's simply not true.

I still fail to see your point. The cap limit is still the cap limit. They still need to cut or restructure people. Being $16 million over the cap still means you need to cut a significant player, or multiple players, plus restructure many deals. $16mil is nearly 15% of the whole teams allowed cap. The new CBA does not have some special new language that allows certain people or contractual items to not count against the cap, nor is there a new rule for getting rid of what you owe.

 

[Rylo]

I feel like Miami is still in the running, but no where near leding the pack.

I am just scared that the Dolphins will OVERPAY Flynn like Arizona did with Kolb, which is why I would rather Peyton be an awesome guy and sign with Miami. In the event he doesn't, Miami needs to put Flynn in his place. Dude has a good skillset, but 1 good game does not equal 50+million dollars.

If Miami does not sign Flynn, then obviously Philbin just doesn't see him becoming much in this league as a starter.

Peyton, come to the Dolphins. You already live here. You know you wanna stay foreber.

 

[f16harm]

I feel like Miami is still in the running, but no where near leding the pack.

I am just scared that the Dolphins will OVERPAY Flynn like Arizona did with Kolb, which is why I would rather Peyton be an awesome guy and sign with Miami. In the event he doesn't, Miami needs to put Flynn in his place. Dude has a good skillset, but 1 good game does not equal 50+million dollars.

If Miami does not sign Flynn, then obviously Philbin just doesn't see him becoming much in this league as a starter.

Peyton, come to the Dolphins. You already live here. You know you wanna stay foreber.

My problem with Manning coming to Miami is that once again, in 2-3 years, we are going to be back in the same fucking place we have been for the last 10 years......trying to find a franchise QB for the future after we just tried a guy for 2-3 seasons.

Miami needs a quality QB, to be the face of the franchise, for a potential outlook of 8-10yrs.

 

[Rylo]

I don't debate that about being in the hole in 2-3 years.

I just feel like we could get a QB in the 2nd/3rd round in the next 1-3 years draft and he can groom behind Peyton until he retires.

I would much rather that chance than overpay Flynn and him being a complete fucking bust.

 

[Rayman]

I still fail to see your point. The cap limit is still the cap limit. They still need to cut or restructure people. Being $16 million over the cap still means you need to cut a significant player, or multiple players, plus restructure many deals. $16mil is nearly 15% of the whole teams allowed cap. The new CBA does not have some special new language that allows certain people or contractual items to not count against the cap, nor is there a new rule for getting rid of what you owe.

I missed the part where I said there was new language in the CBA. The restructuring process is pretty simple and doesn't cost the players a dime. Larry Fitzgerald alone could probably save them close to $10M. Gotta imagine something happens with Kolb's deal as well.

The hard part would be convincing him they could add other pieces. But getting him on the roster is really not that big an obstacle.

 

[f16harm]

I missed the part where I said there was new language in the CBA. The restructuring process is pretty simple and doesn't cost the players a dime. Larry Fitzgerald alone could probably save them close to $10M. Gotta imagine something happens with Kolb's deal as well.

The hard part would be convincing him they could add other pieces. But getting him on the roster is really not that big an obstacle.

You are implying there is some new loophole or rule in place since the lockout when the salary cap was effected.

My understanding is that the cap these days is a joke.

As an example, I know Dallas is supposed to be less than $5M under as of right now. Yet, with a couple of cuts (Newman, Buehler) and some restructures (Romo, Witten, Austin, etc) they could be as much as $30M under by Tuesday afternoon. Gotta imagine it's like that league wide.

Point being, if Arizona wants Peyton bad enough, they can make it happen.

I guess none. But people seem to think that the cap numbers post-lockout are set in stone and crippling to an organization if they're anywhere near the max.

That's simply not true.

 

[Rayman]

You are implying there is some new loophole or rule in place since the lockout when the salary cap was effected.

I'm not implying anything. I'm saying that "herp derp, Team X has no cap room, so they can't sign anybody" is a short-sighted and ill-informed argument.

 

[Aso]

I missed the part where I said there was new language in the CBA. The restructuring process is pretty simple and doesn't cost the players a dime. Larry Fitzgerald alone could probably save them close to $10M. Gotta imagine something happens with Kolb's deal as well.

The hard part would be convincing him they could add other pieces. But getting him on the roster is really not that big an obstacle.

Where did you hear this from?

The cap is definitely still important and is certainly not a joke. Look how many players the Raiders have cut simply because the Raiders mismanaged cap.

As far as the Cardinals go they'll save 14.5 million on just cutting Levi Brown alone so I think they can manage enough money to sign Peyton somehow.

I still think the Broncos are front runners though. You could argue them being a better team already and they have the cap money to go out and sign additional free agents.

 

[Woy]

No shit. That makes it his "home" now?

http://www.comehomepeyton.com/

:longo:

 

[f16harm]

I'm not implying anything. I'm saying that "herp derp, Team X has no cap room, so they can't sign anybody" is a short-sighted and ill-informed argument.

LOL, OK, I guess the Rayman guy from VSD should probably draft the memo to Roger Goodell and the 32 NFL teams.

 

[Rayman]

Where did you hear this from?

The cap is definitely still important and is certainly not a joke. Look how many players the Raiders have cut simply because the Raiders mismanaged cap.

As far as the Cardinals go they'll save 14.5 million on just cutting Levi Brown alone so I think they can manage enough money to sign Peyton somehow.

I still think the Broncos are front runners though. You could argue them being a better team already and they have the cap money to go out and sign additional free agents.

I was just making up a number since I don't know his cap figure for 2012. I'm assuming with his shiny new contract, it's a double digit.

LOL, OK, I guess the Rayman guy from VSD should probably draft the memo to Roger Goodell and the 32 NFL teams.

:lol:

Roger Goodell is pretty well aware of it, doesn't need my help.

http://www.comehomepeyton.com/

:longo:

:rage:

 

[SHOGUN]

It sounds like Denver is the favorite. :crying:

 

[EmpireWF]

It sounds like Denver is the favorite. :crying:

Yep.

Plus, Mort (take it with a grain of salt) says Manning won't make a decision until later in the week or next week. Doing that would sorta kill the Cards chances since Kolb is due that bonus soon.

 

[f16harm]

EDIT: Nevermind, Dave Hyde just corrected his mistype, Miami IS NOT out of it.

Thus why Dave Hyde is a fucking moron. A journalist who writes for a living, that can't actually type

 

[Chrispy]

First tweet i see on twitter

GaryPayton_20
where do u think Peyton Manning will end up?

:rage:

Hurry up and sign peyton

I really want to see Manning to Fitzgerald :fap: But Peyton to Thomas won't be bad either...

 

[TuxedoYoda]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zuD-MqG5Omc#!

 

[CaribbeanJoseph]

Manning2Bess, match made in heaven.

 

[Woy]

He's meeting with the Titans. :shifty:

 

[Woy]

@terrymc13: Told that #Titans meeting between Peyton Manning and Mike Munchak likely to be in Houston with owner Bud Adams.

 

[ryne candy]

@terrymc13: Told that #Titans meeting between Peyton Manning and Mike Munchak likely to be in Houston with owner Bud Adams.

Before that reports are stating that Texans are trying to meet with him while he's in Houston.....if anything, just to take time away from Titans.