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The Top 100 Greatest NFL Players.

I saw what you wrote, I just disagree. Faulk was very quick sure but he wasn't the quickest RB in the league. Barry Sanders, Ricky Waters, and Warrick Dunn were all quicker than Faulk.

Marshall Faulks first step and his ability to reach top speed were better than any of the guys you mentioned.


Again Faulk looked real quick because he played on turf most of his career, on grass he was clearly not as quick. Everybody looks quicker on turf. Saying a pig looks good in a dress doesn't make it so.
Barry Sanders played on turf minimum 10 games a year. No clue what your trying to say.


HAHAHA you just said Faulk was faster than Barry Sanders. What a joke. I just watched a youtube video of Marshall Faulk where Rod Woodson said, and I quote "Everybody said Marshall didn't have the speed but he made a lot of big plays and you never really seen him get chased down from the backside." Everybody in the world knows Faulk wasn't GOAT fast. Here's the video of Marshall Faulk, watch from :58 seconds if you want to hear the quote.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhD9ihzQU3U

Your so in love with 40 times yet ignore Faulks 4.28 and Barrys 4.37 40 times.

Marshall Faulk was faster than Barry period. MANY backs were faster than Barry. Straight line speed is not what made Barry special. He has top tier speed but there are numerous backs that were faster.

Michael Bennett , Bo Jackson , Napolean Harris come to mind as guys faster than Barry during his playing days.

It cant be that hard to under stand. Once the ball was in his possession or at the snap Faulk got to top speed faster than Barry.

Barry changed direction faster , had quicker feet , and stopped and re-started faster than anyone not named Sayers.

But Faulks first step was lethal. Even lining up wide his first step was as good as any top flight WR which is unheard of for a RB.



I don't discount Tomlinson for his crap off season play. "Marty Ball" was the most predictable offensive strategy in the history of the NFL yet his first playoff game was ok against the leagues #5 D in the Jets and the next season he had 123 yards rushing 2 TDs, and another 64 receiving playing for Marty. They still lost however. From then on Tomlinson played with Norv Turner who has no clue how to run the ball. No wonder Tomlinson only averaged 9 carries per playoff game under Norv. Because Norv has never been able to run the football. It's no wonder that Tomlinson had 1800 yards in his last year with Marty, and steady declined in productivity under Norv. And now with a coach who actually knows how to run the ball LT is averaging 6.1 per carry and is 5th in rushing yards so far this season. Hell Barry Sanders had shit post season success as well. Sometimes it's the coaches strategy and/or player personnel around him not the player.

Norv has never been able to run the ball ?

I dont even know where to begin with that. You just took a turn into stupid town.

I guess Mike Martz doesnt know the passing game either.

Emmitt Smith , Terry Allen , Stephen Davis ,Frank Gore , Lamonot Jordan ,Ricky Williams.
Do yourself a favor and look up there career best years and who was calling the shots when it happened.

The only coach in the NFL whos on the same island in terms of building a running game or running back is Mike Shanahan.

So LTs playoff dreadfulness is the fault of the Best Running game coach of the modern era.

Good call there.


Im not even going to address the rest if this is your line of thinking.yikes.
 
Faulk - lead the NFL in rushing zero times.
Tomlinson - twice.

Faulk - lead the NFL in all-purpose yards twice.
Tomlinson - Once.

Faulk - 12279 career rushing yards.
Tomlinson - 12831 and still playing.

Faulk - 19154 career all purpose yards
LT - 16868 and still playing.

Faulk - 136 total career TDs
LT - 156 total career TDs and still playing.

Faulk - 4.3 career ypc.
LT - 4.4

Faulk - 36 fumbles in 3603 touches
LT - 27 fumbles in 3478 touches

Faulk - 0 for 2 passing.
LT - 8 for 12, 7 tds, 143 yards. lol doesn't really matter...but he was obviously a better passer as well. Versatile yes.

It was fun but honestly it's close IMO. Tomlinson when it's all said and done I think will be better than Faulk who I would drop somewhere in the 5-9 range of alltime backs today. Who knows where LT will end up but he will most certainly be higher than Faulk on that list.

Its interesting to me that Faulk and LT are so close statistically. I think Faulk was hurt by spending the prime of his career on some dreadful Colts teams. I watched Faulk and LT in college, I watched Faulk and LT in the NFL, and its my opinion that Faulk was the better football player. But I also think that Faulk was never really given a chance to shine in Indianapolis, and that LT probably will have the better NFL career (especially if he has a good season with the Jets).
 
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Marshall Faulk was faster than Barry period. MANY backs were faster than Barry. Straight line speed is not what made Barry special. He has top tier speed but there are numerous backs that were faster.

Michael Bennett , Bo Jackson , Napolean Harris come to mind as guys faster than Barry during his playing days.

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I think you mean Napoleon Kaufman.

:smug:
 
Marshall Faulks first step and his ability to reach top speed were better than any of the guys you mentioned.



Barry Sanders played on turf minimum 10 games a year. No clue what your trying to say.




Your so in love with 40 times yet ignore Faulks 4.28 and Barrys 4.37 40 times.

Marshall Faulk was faster than Barry period. MANY backs were faster than Barry. Straight line speed is not what made Barry special. He has top tier speed but there are numerous backs that were faster.

Michael Bennett , Bo Jackson , Napolean Harris come to mind as guys faster than Barry during his playing days.

It cant be that hard to under stand. Once the ball was in his possession or at the snap Faulk got to top speed faster than Barry.

Barry changed direction faster , had quicker feet , and stopped and re-started faster than anyone not named Sayers.

But Faulks first step was lethal. Even lining up wide his first step was as good as any top flight WR which is unheard of for a RB.





Norv has never been able to run the ball ?

I dont even know where to begin with that. You just took a turn into stupid town.

I guess Mike Martz doesnt know the passing game either.

Emmitt Smith , Terry Allen , Stephen Davis ,Frank Gore , Lamonot Jordan ,Ricky Williams.
Do yourself a favor and look up there career best years and who was calling the shots when it happened.

The only coach in the NFL whos on the same island in terms of building a running game or running back is Mike Shanahan.

So LTs playoff dreadfulness is the fault of the Best Running game coach of the modern era.

Good call there.


Im not even going to address the rest if this is your line of thinking.yikes.

Wasn't Ricky Williams best season under Dave Wannstadt?
 
Wasn't Ricky Williams best season under Dave Wannstadt?


Yup , but Norv Turner was the OC.



Anyone else have a serious problem with Brady ((if he is in the top 30)) being ranked that much higher than Young , Bradshaw , Starr , and Aikman ?

He'll officially be the most overrated player on the list if he makes it.
 
What a flaming crock of shit.

Who in there fucking right mind puts Brady at 21 ? Ahead of Marino and Elway ??

Theres ZERO argument for it. Brady is the modern Aikman/Bradshaw. Damn good QBs who made great plays when needed but were NOT the catalysts for there teams success.
Brady is in no way the QB Marino/Elway were. Having him that far ahead of Young/Aikman is ridiculous.

I have zero issue with a guy like Sayers being ahead of Emmitt. Sayers you can argue is the best pure runner ever and maybe the best single weapon ever.He has nowhere near the accolades but the argument is legit about pure running ability and his rookie season being the best ever. I can see the argument.

But Brady ??
Setting up 2 fgs and failing the only year you were asked to carry the team is not holding water against the best arm in league history and a guy who carried 3 bum teams to superbowls than won a pair in his twilight years.
When the friggin kicker has more to do with the victories than you you aint top 25.

Awful.
 
Someone needs to explain to me Ray Lewis > Jack Lambert but Warren Sapp/John Randle not being in the top 100 while Strahan is in.

How many points are being given for charisma here ?
 
So these are the likely remaining names on the list;

 
QB
Johnny Unitas
Otto Graham
Sammy Baugh
Joe Montana
Brett Favre
Peyton Manning

RB
Jim Brown
Walter Peyton
Barry Sanders
Bronko Nagurski

WR
Jerry Rice
Don Hutson

OL
Anthony Munoz

DL
Deacon Jones
Mean Joe Greene
Reggie White

LB
Dick Butkus
Lawrence Taylor
Ray Lewis

DB
Ronnie Lott

.. not liking Ray Lewis that high.


... Barry > Emmitt is interesting.

.... Jim Thorpe should be in the 20's, IMO.

Why?, Homerism aside... I would guarantee Ray Lewis is voted the #1 MLB ever, and quite possibly #1 or #2 LB in general ever. Only behind in my mind LT who changed the game.
 
Why?, Homerism aside... I would guarantee Ray Lewis is voted the #1 MLB ever, and quite possibly #1 or #2 LB in general ever. Only behind in my mind LT who changed the game.

Ray Lewis is a great player, but how exactly did he "change the game"? I think he is very similar to Lambert in terms of playing style.
 
What a flaming crock of shit.

Who in there fucking right mind puts Brady at 21 ? Ahead of Marino and Elway ??

Theres ZERO argument for it. Brady is the modern Aikman/Bradshaw. Damn good QBs who made great plays when needed but were NOT the catalysts for there teams success.
Brady is in no way the QB Marino/Elway were. Having him that far ahead of Young/Aikman is ridiculous.

I have zero issue with a guy like Sayers being ahead of Emmitt. Sayers you can argue is the best pure runner ever and maybe the best single weapon ever.He has nowhere near the accolades but the argument is legit about pure running ability and his rookie season being the best ever. I can see the argument.

But Brady ??
Setting up 2 fgs and failing the only year you were asked to carry the team is not holding water against a the best arm in league history and a guy who carried 3 bum teams to superbowls than won a pair in his twilight years.
When the friggin kicker has more to do with the victories than you you aint top 25.

Awful.



You're a fucking idiot.
 
Ray Lewis is a great player, but how exactly did he "change the game"? I think he is very similar to Lambert in terms of playing style.

You have to change the game to be one of the top greatest players ever?

When did that become part of the criteria.
 
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