The Trade Deadline Thread

[EmpireWF]

I'm shocked the Phillies haven't offered Singleton and change for Pence.

They did.

MLBTR:

Jarred Cosart, Jonathan Singleton, and a second-tier pitching prospect for Hunter Pence

Houston said no yesterday.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

They did.

MLBTR:

Houston said no yesterday.

Damn...they want the moon, I guess.

That's a good deal for Pence.

 

[NAHSTE]

I'm slowly talking myself into wanting BJ Upton on the Braves. Price should be lower than any of the other guys available and he's still got some upside. Plus a proven track record and World Series experience. Could be a good buy-low guy.

I'd love Denard Span more but I don't know if the Twins are even shopping him. Either way, we need a CF not a corner bat.

 

[NAHSTE]

Span is rehabbing trying to come back from a concussion he suffered, so if the braves are looking for help now that might not be the best option. Upton has a ton of upside/potential, if Parrish can get him to be more patient and wait for better pitches he can become an all star. He loves swinging at the first pitch, and is hitting like .400 something when he connects, which is only 1/3rd of the time if I remember correctly.

Parrish would have to be fired for that to happen. He made all of our hitters less patient and has broken Heyward's approach.

 

[Chrispy]

Joel Sherman
Scout from #Rockies (Jimenez) in to see #Yankees Betances start at Double-A tonite #Mariners #Phillies also there.

Don't get why the Phillies are there

 

[Chrispy]

Joel Sherman
Among scouts/execs seems momentum now #Whitesox Quentin will be dealt and team I hear as frontrunner most is #Braves

 

[Chrispy]

Jon Heyman
no sign of #rockies lowering steep price on ubaldo yet. w/ #reds only on fringe of race, #yankees best fit. #tradedeadline

 

[Chrispy]

Source tells FOXSports.com it is now more likely than not that Hunter Pence will be dealt by Sunday. #Astros

Sources say #Phillies and #Braves are on Pence, #Indians still involved. Chances of deal better than 50/50. #Astros

Whoever gets him is going to have one hell of a player

 

[Obst]

The Phillies have been Pence's most serious suitor according to Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports.

A scout told Mark Bowman of MLB.com that Ludwick tops the Braves' wish list.

The Yankees appear to have the best shot at Jimenez, but there are no indications that they will meet the Rockies' asking price, according to Troy Renck of the Denver Post

 

[nflman2033]

At least he's had a career year, Bailey has only shown flashes, and continues to get hurt just when he starts putting it together.

 

[Rudi]

Im starting to lose faith in Homer Bailey. 4+ today, 12 hits, 9 runs. Jesus. He's had more than enough time to prove himself, now hes just starting to look like a lesser version of Mark Prior which is by no means a good thing. Atleast Prior had a little run of beast mode, Bailey has always just been knocking on the door.

 

[NAHSTE]

The Phillies have been Pence's most serious suitor according to Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports.

A scout told Mark Bowman of MLB.com that Ludwick tops the Braves' wish list.

The Yankees appear to have the best shot at Jimenez, but there are no indications that they will meet the Rockies' asking price, according to Troy Renck of the Denver Post

Unless that comes with Mike Adams, then uke:

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

7 QS's out of 11 total starts, 3 stinkers counting today.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?id=baileho02&t=p&year=2011

My only concern is health. He's still only 25 because they brought him up way too soon in '07 when they weren't drawing. He shouldn't have been in the bigs until '09.

I know Ubaldo's best work is behind him. You trade Bailey (not to mention the rest of the quality players they want) and he'll be winning 17 games every year for the Rockies, just watch.

 

[Obst]

The Phillies are making progress toward a deal for Pence, but they'll have to reach an agreement by Friday or the Astros will move on to other suitors, according to Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports. The Phillies would include Jarred Cosart and Jonathan Singleton in a deal for Pence, according to FOX. The Astros prefer younger prospects and Domonic Brown is not currently in the trade.

 

[moneyman255]

What do you guys think the Brewers should do about the 2B/3B/SS situation?

Rickie Weeks is out 3-6 weeks with a severe ankle sprain. The Brewers put him on the 15 day DL and called up 25 year old Eric Farris (his minor league #'s: .256 AVG, .308 OBP, .665 OPS, 6 HR, 14 SB, 6 CS)

I don't think there is anyway that Farris can be playing 2B for us down the stretch, especially when every game is going to be important.

Now, they also traded for Felipe Lopez today. He hasn't been relevant since 09 when he was with the Brewers (.320 AVG in 66 G) but he was awful in 2010 and 2011. He is being assigned to AAA Nashville tomorrow (guessing they will evaluate come Sunday)

Now, the trade market at 2B is awfully weak with Adam Kennedy, and Jamey Carroll being the biggest options available. Would you go and get Carroll (knowing the price is probably going to be higher than it should) would you go with Kennedy who is hitting .253 with 7 HR's this season for SEA, or would you stick with a Lopez/Counsell type platoon?

And the Brewers still have weakness at SS and 3B.

Brewers SS: Betancourt: .255 AVG, 7 HR, 38 RBI, .274 OBP, -0.5 WAR: .292 AVG in July
Brewers 3B: McGehee: .228 AVG, 5 HR, 41 RBI, .280 OBP, -0.4 WAR: .252 AVG in July

Betancourt has had a great post-AS break so far, but his defense just completely sucks. I don't think you can depend on Betancourt when the games matter. This is why I would replace him.

The 3B/SS market is also pretty weak though. Brendan Ryan, Clint Barmes, and Rafael Furcal are probably the names that are available for SS. Omar Infante could probably be had at 3B, but who knows.

So, if you were Doug Melvin, how would you fix the 2B/3B/SS problem? Just curious what other people think they should do.

My solution?

2B: Felipe Lopez/Josh Wilson
3B: Taylor Green/Casey McGehee
SS: Rafael Furcal/Yuniesky Betancourt

I would give Lopez a try at 2B. He cannot be worse than Counsell or Farris and has had success with the Brewers in the past. He is also a switch-hitter.

I would also try and get Furcal. When healthy, this guy is easily a 3-4 WAR type player and just last year he hit .300 with an OBP of .360+ The past week, he has hit nearly .400 and if this guy can return to his old form, he can be a great piece to go grab at the deadline. I also wouldn't mind Barmes. Either one would work for me.

Taylor Green is a prospect in AAA for the Brewers. He used to be a pretty big prospect but then he struggled in AA for awhile, and was injured for a season. So far in AAA he is hitting: .330 AVG, 17 HR, 67 RBI, .990 OPS, 43 BB, 55 K

He is also only 24 years old.

I was just wondering what other people/brewer fans think Melvin should do at these spots. It's going to be interesting to see what happens the next 72 hours.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I would say the Brewers should do whatever it takes to trade for the best pieces possible, since this is clearly an all-or-bust scenario for them. You have to assume Fielder walks, and they've already purged the farm to acquire SP's. I'd continue moving all of my pieces to get the best possible parts. The race is too tight to leave in the hands of Josh Wilson/Craig Counsell/Eric Farris/etc. It would be different if you were replacing some Cardinal-esque slap hitting middle IF, but replacing Weeks is a different story and leaves a lot of production on the table.

 

[moneyman255]

The problem with that is what is available on the market right now? The MIF market is really weak. Basically, if we can upgrade the SS/3B pos. and just get decent offense and above-average defense until Weeks gets back, we should be in good shape.

At least the injury happened a few days before the deadline and not after, because at least Melvin has the opp. to bring someone in.

 

[manchild24]

According to FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal, the Phillies are making progress on a deal for Hunter Pence.
Rosenthal heard from sources that the package going to Houston would include Single-A right-hander Jarred Cosart and Single-A first baseman Jonathan Singleton. The only hangup is which other prospect would be included. The Braves are also known to be heavily interested in Pence and now have the opportunity to make a better offer

 

[nflman2033]

7 QS's out of 11 total starts, 3 stinkers counting today.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?id=baileho02&t=p&year=2011

My only concern is health. He's still only 25 because they brought him up way too soon in '07 when they weren't drawing. He shouldn't have been in the bigs until '09.

I know Ubaldo's best work is behind him. You trade Bailey (not to mention the rest of the quality players they want) and he'll be winning 17 games every year for the Rockies, just watch.

that goes back to what i said earlier, no matter what the reds do, it will be wrong, they trade him now, he gets on track, the keep him and 3 years from now they couldnt get a pack of cigarettes for him.

 

[Chrispy]

I swear to god if the Yanks deal Nova instead of Hughes I am going to be pissed