VSN's Top 10 NFL Quarterbacks.

[celtsxpatsxsox]

Wow the love for this guy is amazing. So because hes good at debates u cant tell him where u think he MAY be wrong? in your opinion?

from the words of Gonzo in another thread

This is the internetz. Everyone is right,

 

[Wildcard]

Based pure off skill...

I still don't know how anyone can say Eli Manning is better than Tony Romo.

Skill people.

QB's aren't the always the reason why teams win... ask Carson Palmer, ask Dan Marino.

 

[Archer]

So magner , best qb ever is terry bradshaw right? Or is it Otto Graham?

 

[kmanharris]

1. Tom Brady.
2. Roethlisberger.
3. Brees.
4. Warner.
5. McNabb.
6. Peyton.
7. Eli.
8. Cutler.
9. Rivers.
10. Garcia.
11. Romo.

I put 11 because it's subjective to Brady being healthy. Also, go ahead and flame away at Peyton being at 6. Playoff performance weighed heavily in my decision.

contradictory much? Brees hasn't won shit in the playoffs. Mcnabb has never won a superbowl. Cutler hasn't done anything better than rivers.

 

[FirstTimer]

Wow the love for this guy is amazing. So because hes good at debates u cant tell him where u think he MAY be wrong? in your opinion?

Reading comprhension isn't your strong suit.

Nuk just wants to incite a Kurt Warner love fest the saem he did at MM 1.3 millions times.

The guy can go ahead and say whatever he wants to Nuk about Warner, but we are trying to say it won't do any good and he might as well go bang his head into a wall because Nuk won't budge. We have seen it a million times before.

Nuk isn't really looking for a debate, he just wants to stir up trouble and arguments to kill time.

 

[ralaw]

Wow the love for this guy is amazing. So because hes good at debates u cant tell him where u think he MAY be wrong? in your opinion?

It's not so much about him being "amazing" or being "good at debates" but instead about it being pointless. I mean if you want you can engage in a discussion with him about Warner you can, but just be prepared to run a never ending marathon. Either way Nuk is a good guy who just happens to be in love with Warner.

Guys, just listen to some MM vets on this one, but don't say we didn't warn you.

 

[celtsxpatsxsox]

So magner , best qb ever is terry bradshaw right? Or is it Otto Graham?

in terms of winning. Many players would switch places with them in a heartbeat.

 

[Archer]

Because unlike Manning when he has made it to the playoffs he has played well. It's not his fault the rest of the team around him isn't good.

lol ok then , answer my other question.

I guess the regular season is completly irrelvant. Drew Brees is a loser , he loses when it matters . Hes always gonna lose .

 

[Archer]

Actually I'm a fan of Unitas. And just because playoff performance weighed heavily doesn't mean it was the only factor.

So how isint Manning ahead of brees and co if it wasnt all on playoffs.

3time mvp? 9time pro bowler?

 

[Archer]

Reading comprhension isn't your strong suit.

Nuk just wants to incite a Kurt Warner love fest the saem he did at MM 1.3 millions times.

The guy can go ahead and say whatever he wants to Nuk about Warner, but we are trying to say it won't do any good and he might as well go bang his head into a wall because Nuk won't budge. We have seen it a million times before.

Nuk isn't really looking for a debate, he just wants to stir up trouble and arguments to kill time.

Lol i beleive u guys . But everytime somebody disagrees with him i see a former MM`er say "oh thats a bad idea" "fresh blood" . Its annoying.

Sorry for my outburst i guess .

 

[Archer]

Just because the Saints didn't make the playoffs doesn't mean it was Brees's fault.

so just because manning has a bad record in the playoffs its not his fault right?

 

[Archer]

in terms of winning. Many players would switch places with them in a heartbeat.

Sure they would but are they the best ever? To call Terry Bradshaw the best qb ever is fucking retarded. But by half the posts i read on this site , he must be. Since its all about their playoff wins and rings/championships .... right?

 

[FirstTimer]

Both Brees and McNabb have performed well in the playoffs. In fact McNabb played well enough to of beat the Cardinals. They just didn't It's a team sport. Just because the QB doesn't win doesn't mean it was their fault. Just like it wasn't because of Manning that the Colts won a SB..

You're talking out both sides of your mouth. Can you really blame all of the Colts/Mannings playoff failures on him or can you look at the fact that maybe the Pats were just a better team some of those years and Manning has had to deal with better defenses in the AFC most years than a lot of other QB's.... (Pit, SD,NE, Balt). You're placing Manning in a vacuum stat wise and excusing other players. Because as it stands Manning isn't horrible in the playoffs 22tds-17ints 85 QB rating 7-8 record and 1 SB win.

Manning hasn't been great in the playoffs but he also hasn't been as bad as the perception is. And honestly a lot of those years the Colts were just beat by better teams.

 

[ralaw]

Lol i beleive u guys . But everytime somebody disagrees with him i see a former MM`er say "oh thats a bad idea" "fresh blood" . Its annoying.

Sorry for my outburst i guess .

We're just trying to save you the anguish and from the Carpal Tunnel that will come from typing ferociously to explain your argument.

 

[Archer]

We're just trying to save you the anguish and from the Carpal Tunnel that will come from typing ferociously to explain your argument.

Wasnt my argument but thanks. I was just sick of seeing lots of post about not arguing with this guy . I sort of understand now , at first i thought u guys were just on his nuts lol

 

[FirstTimer]

Wasnt my argument but thanks. I was just sick of seeing lots of post about not arguing with this guy . I sort of understand now , at first i thought u guys were just on his nuts lol

Argue with him on whatever you want. The Warner thing is just kind of pointless though.

 

[celtsxpatsxsox]

Sure they would but are they the best ever? To call Terry Bradshaw the best qb ever is fucking retarded. But by half the posts i read on this site , he must be. Since its all about their playoff wins and rings/championships .... right?

They are the most successful Quarterbacks in the NFL. There is a big difference between success and saying whos the best which many people seem to forget. Btw you bringing up Peyton's MVP's is no better then say someone bringing up superbowl championships. If that was the case then Barry Sanders and Shaun Alexander are identical because they both have 1 MVP. But everyone knows you cant judge people by awards.

 

[Point Blank]

Garcia in the top 10, Magner?

 

[Archer]

They are the most successful Quarterbacks in the NFL. There is a big difference between success and saying whos the best which many people seem to forget. Btw you bringing up Peyton's MVP's is no better then say someone bringing up superbowl championships. If that was the case then Barry Sanders and Shaun Alexander are identical because they both have 1 MVP. But everyone knows you cant judge people by awards.

Somewhat your right , but its an acheivement non the less. Means he was thought as by the majority of the people who vote as the best player in the league. And yes if this thread was whos the most succesful id understand but it isint . Poor qbs can be carried to superbowls and suddenly there regarded as awesome? Poor qbs cant be carried as league mvps tho . Thats the only reason MVP has some sort of say in this conversation for me but whatever theres always gonna be haters , u see them at every site you go on.

 

[FirstTimer]

What I'm saying is for as good as he is during the regular season, it disappoints me that he's average at best in the playoffs. I still can't believe he was awarded the Superbowl MVP over Sanders, Hayden, Brackett and Rhodes.

EDIT this. Thought Rhodes was the one catching dump downs. I'm mistaken....
It was Addai catching the check downs. Sorry for the misinfo.