WEC June 7thy on Versus

[Justo]

i seen the fight but do you guys know where there's a download available? i cant find any

 

[Steel Mamba]

Like I said earlier a broke rib can still be worse, but you're not throwing any punches when your hand looks like that.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Yikes.

Dont get me wrong.. im not discrediting Brown for fighting with a broken rib.. but atleast he could still throw a punch.

 

[Steel Mamba]

i seen the fight but do you guys know where there's a download available? i cant find any

http://www.xtremewrestlingtorrents.net/login.php?returnto=/browse.php

 

[Justo]

http://www.xtremewrestlingtorrents.net/login.php?returnto=/browse.php

didnt work, it wont let me register at the site

 

[Steel Mamba]

http://www.mininova.org/tor/2666171

 

[Liquidrob]

Yikes.

Dont get me wrong.. im not discrediting Brown for fighting with a broken rib.. but atleast he could still throw a punch.

You can still throw a punch with a broken hand, it hurts like hell, but it has been done before, rememeber your hand is completely wrapped and packed in there

I'm not going to rip on Uriah, he stayed game the entire fight, but you can see in his face he let it affect him after he knew it was broke (most guys would) and we dont know the pain he was in, so we are just key board warriors at this point

Nice switch up throwing elbows though and he gutted it out, but Brown has shown he is the better fighter, he can dictate where the fight goes against Uriah, even with a good hand

 

[Bigpapa42]

So if we're writing off the loss by Faber to a broken hand, does that make Joe Rigg's win on Saturday with two broken hands extra super amazing?

 

[Liquidrob]

So if we're writing off the loss by Faber to a broken hand, does that make Joe Rigg's win on Saturday with two broken hands extra super amazing?

yes, riggs got 2 wins for that fight, check sherdog if you think I'm lying and Brown fights in a weak division and the first fight was a fluke it seems

also, the WEC 145 class only has 2 fighters

 

[Steel Mamba]

I dont want to start harping on injuries, but just because Joe Riggs and others have been able to fight and win with hand injuries shouldn't take away anything from Faber. A broken hand is too broad a term to begin with, what if Riggs just has some sort of hair line fracture or a joint popped out of place. That's a big difference compared to how badly Faber was hurt.

 

[EmpireWF]

also, the WEC 145 class only has 2 fighters

Grispi is only 20 and has a bunch of wins. He's good on the ground to boot.

What's wron with Aldo?

Garcia is still around, too.

 

[Liquidrob]

Grispi is only 20 and has a bunch of wins. He's good on the ground to boot.

What's wron with Aldo?

Garcia is still around, too.

Its a joke, WEC has many good 145 fighters, I listed a bunch

Bob '145 Guru' Kuzzy can only list 2

 

[EmpireWF]

oh...only read the last couple posts...

I want Brown/Faber 3....

I'm looking forward to Varner/Cerrone 2....Cerrone is a fun fighter to watch and Varner is just tough.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

yes, riggs got 2 wins for that fight, check sherdog if you think I'm lying and Brown fights in a weak division and the first fight was a fluke it seems

also, the WEC 145 class only has 2 fighters

I listed 4 guys actually, 2 of which probably had no business being there anyways.

Grispi and Aldo are good young fighters. The division is still weak.

 

[Liquidrob]

I listed 4 guys actually, 2 of which probably had no business being there anyways.

Grispi and Aldo are good young fighters. The division is still weak.

Man, you keep digging yourself deeper, you have made 2 completely laughable comments in this thread, first you are commenting on a fighter you admit to knowing little about

Faber will avenge his loss to Brown... maybe. I dont know much about Brown but Urijah is a beast.

Than you show even more ignorance about the division you are trying to discuss

Its the weakest division in all of MMA, especially in the US.

Top FW fighters in the US:

Mike Brown
Uriajah Faber

then?

Leonard Garcia (lol)
Jeff Curran

The rest of the best is fighting in Japan.

Sorry.. maybe 135 is weaker than 145. But I wont question the beastliness of Miguel Torres for the time being.

And than you still have the audacity to keep commenting and trying to make points about fighters and a division you know nothing about! I really don’t know why you are even in this thread but you keep popping up for some strange reason.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Man, you keep digging yourself deeper, you have made 2 completely laughable comments in this thread, first you are commenting on a fighter you admit to knowing little about



Than you show even more ignorance about the division you are trying to discuss



And than you still have the audacity to keep commenting and trying to make points about fighters and a division you know nothing about! I really don’t know why you are even in this thread but you keep popping up for some strange reason.

Sorry Rob,as much as you want it to be so, everything ive said is accurate. You cant argue with who Brown has fought against.. those are facts.

The only thing you have on me is not mentioning Aldo and Grispi. The division is still weak. I cant help if you like to endorse anything not in the UFC more than everything IN the UFC.. thats your own fault. Ive given you several reasons why Brown isnt top 10, the only thing you have for me is that he beat Faber twice, one when Faber was using only one hand. Beating Yves Edwards STILL isnt that impressive. Brown is a solid fighter, theres just fighters id put above him for the top 10..you're acting as if its gold fact that hes a top 10 p4p fighter just cause he beat Faber and Yves Edwards.

Pass.

 

[Steel Mamba]

WHOA!! That's one nasty cut

 

[Liquidrob]

Sorry Rob,as much as you want it to be so, everything ive said is accurate. You cant argue with who Brown has fought against.. those are facts.

The only thing you have on me is not mentioning Aldo and Grispi. The division is still weak. I cant help if you like to endorse anything not in the UFC more than everything IN the UFC.. thats your own fault. Ive given you several reasons why Brown isnt top 10, the only thing you have for me is that he beat Faber twice, one when Faber was using only one hand. Beating Yves Edwards STILL isnt that impressive. Brown is a solid fighter, theres just fighters id put above him for the top 10..you're acting as if its gold fact that hes a top 10 p4p fighter just cause he beat Faber and Yves Edwards.

Pass.

Sorry Kuzzy, you are just posting to post now, I already compared Browns wins to Machida who everyone has in the top 10, his 2 wins over faber are as good as if not better than Rashad and Tito, win over Yves is better than Bonnar or whoever else, Franklin and Penn were fighting way out of there weight class, I think the Rich fights was over like 215, throw in Curran, Hominick and Garcia and Brown has beat some very good competiton

145 is a very tough division, you already showed your hand with little to no prior knowledge of the fighter in question (Brown) and the division so you really have no credibility on this subject, 145 in the WEC is as deep as most divisions, its not just top talent its also the division as a whole and the skill level of the division

Like I said, the 'UFC hate' angle you are throwing out there is a stupid arguement because the WEC is owned by the UFC, its 145 and 135 are basically the lower weights of the UFC with the WEC name on it and they are not featured in the UFC because of money, 155 is a feeder division for the 155 UFC division and if BJ wasnt even in the division the UFC would probably drop it like they have before

Now you're just trying to bluff your way thru this thread and everyone at the table knows you dont even have a pair

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Dude, if im bluffing my way thru this argument you bluff your way thru MMA debates daily.. if you dont agree with something its immediately wrong. Its how you've always done things.

Stop overrating fighters. Brown's competition has been shit. He hasnt fought as good fighters as Machida, regardless if how much you WANT to believe he has. Its so baffling how you write off dudes wins and then consider beating Leonard Garcia a good thing. Come on man, thats a joke.

Even with knowing little about Brown, the shit im saying is NOT arguable. You just keep going on about beating Garcia and Curran like these are big feats. He beat Faber twice, and Edwards once.. one Faber victory was with one hand. Wins over Homminick, Garcia and Curran dont mean much of anything. I love Mark cause hes a good Canadian kid, but hes a mid-tier fighter at best. Garcia is low-tier. Curran is a warrior and has been around but hes not that good.

Come on man.. atleast make an argument and talk about the dudes skill set or intense pace or some shit. The dude hasnt fought anyone worthy outside of Faber and Yves, and quite frankly im now overrating Yves bcus im even putting him on that level.

The mere fact that you consider beating Faber and Yves better than beating Rashad, Tito, Rich, BJ, most of which were in dominant fashion.. I dont know what to tell you.

The best part, im not even grasping at strings like you when it comes to defending Machida. You're throwing out names like Garcia and Homminick.. I can go ahead and throw out guys like Naknamura, Soko, Sam Hoger, etc, etc.. who are all equal to or not better than the likes of Garcia and Homminick. What the fuck has Mark Homminick ever done in his career? Hes spent the majority of it fighting in Canadian small fight leagues.

Im still amazed at how you can reward fighters for beating mediocrity then discredit other fighters for it. And you say im bluffing? You cant even develop a consistent argument man.

 

[Liquidrob]

Sorry buddy, all that and you said the same thing, you already showed your lack of knowledge of the fighter and the division he is in

Funny that someone can admit they dont know much about a fighter but be so sure about him, very strange indeed

Remember, I have quotes, next time think before you post

sidenote: Its not always about wins, wins and losses play a part in it, overskill set, wins losses, level of comp, etc...I explained it in my p4p thread, maybe you can read it and learn something