WEC June 7thy on Versus

[Liquidrob]

Further knock on Brown for me.. he beat a man who fought the majority of the fight with one hand last nite. Faber couldnt even go for a guillotine in the 5th round because of the injury. If Urijah could've used his right he might've been able to win that fight.

yeah, because KOing in 1 and than beating him even before his hand broke wasnt enough, Uriah probably broke it in the 3rd, Brown was still winning at that point

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

I dont care if WEC is owned by Zuffa.. you still have pure hate for the UFC.

You say GSP is the 2nd best p4p because he is.. theres noone outside of the UFC that you could put infront of him not named Fedor.

Majority of the WEC's fight are at 135 and 145.. if the 155 and up fighters were good enough they would graduate to the UFC, so yes, those are their signature divisions because those are their only divisions in the WEC that matter..

What have I said thats un-knowledgeable? Other than not mentioning Jose Aldo and Cub in the 145ers. You cant argue with the facts of who Brown has or has not fought, those are facts. Yves Edwards, and Uriajah Faber twice (once with 1 hand) just dont do it for me when theres so many great fighters in the world.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

yeah, because KOing in 1 and than beating him even before his hand broke wasnt enough, Uriah probably broke it in the 3rd, Brown was still winning at that point

Did you watch the fight? He said between rounds 2 and 3 that his hand was broken..

Furthermore Uriajah had chances to finish in the 5th round that were negated due to his broke hand. Dude was resorting to throwing strictly elbows by the 5th. You're a fighter, so you say.. shouldnt you appreciate how very difficult it would be to fight without your right hand?

 

[Liquidrob]

I dont care if WEC is owned by Zuffa.. you still have pure hate for the UFC.

You say GSP is the 2nd best p4p because he is.. theres noone outside of the UFC that you could put infront of him not named Fedor.

Majority of the WEC's fight are at 135 and 145.. if the 155 and up fighters were good enough they would graduate to the UFC, so yes, those are their signature divisions because those are their only divisions in the WEC that matter..

What have I said thats un-knowledgeable? Other than not mentioning Jose Aldo and Cub in the 145ers. You cant argue with the facts of who Brown has or has not fought, those are facts. Yves Edwards, and Uriajah Faber twice (once with 1 hand) just dont do it for me when theres so many great fighters in the world.

WEC is based off 135 and 145, 155 is there feeder weight for the UFCs LW division, you dont see me talking about Varner and Cerrone in the 155 mix, thats why the UFC ate up there 170 and above divisions, 155 isnt even a big deal in the UFC

WEC always gets the best 145 and 135 guys, those are facts, everyone will tell you that, you showed lack of knowledge because you dont know much about Brown and only mentioned Brown and Uriah, ugh

 

[Liquidrob]

Did you watch the fight? He said between rounds 2 and 3 that his hand was broken..

Furthermore Uriajah had chances to finish in the 5th round that were negated due to his broke hand. Dude was resorting to throwing strictly elbows by the 5th. You're a fighter, so you say.. shouldnt you appreciate how very difficult it would be to fight without your right hand?

I said round 3, Faber was still throwing punches in the 2nd, seems like it went in the 3rd

He tried to put Brown in a neck crank, Brown did the right thing and spun to his back

I said Uriah showed heart, Brown already KO'ed him in 1 and beat him in 5, with or without his hand, brown was beating him before it broke

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

You discrediting guys like Machida beating BJ and Franklin because they moved up but you dont discredit someone for beating a man with 1 hand for the majority of the fight.

Interesting..

Brown left his head open for 3 different chokes in that 5th round, none of which could be completed by Faber because he couldnt lock his broken hand. Not to mention not being able to USE YOUR RIGHT HAND to throw punches. Thats pretty important..

Also, you said 3rd round.. Faber said it was broken between the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Buddha is saying it was broken in the 1st, but they showed Faber saying it between rounds.. so it obviously didnt occur in the 3rd.

 

[The Buddha]

FWIW Faber broke it in the first, on a over hand right that hit Brown in the top of his head.

 

[Liquidrob]

You discrediting guys like Machida beating BJ and Franklin because they moved up but you dont discredit someone for beating a man with 1 hand for the majority of the fight.

Interesting..

Brown left his head open for 3 different chokes in that 5th round, none of which could be completed by Faber because he couldnt lock his broken hand. Not to mention not being able to USE YOUR RIGHT HAND to throw punches. Thats pretty important..

Mike Brown had a broken rib in his first fight with Faber, did you knwo that?

Did your word calender today feature 'discredit'?

lol @ trying to compare what I said, oh man, just stop

 

[RosettaStoned]

I said round 3, Faber was still throwing punches in the 2nd, seems like it went in the 3rd

He tried to put Brown in a neck crank, Brown did the right thing and spun to his back

I said Uriah showed heart, Brown already KO'ed him in 1 and beat him in 5, with or without his hand, brown was beating him before it broke

He broke it in the first round. He won the first round.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Mike Brown had a broken rib in his first fight with Faber, did you knwo that?

Did your word calender today feature 'discredit'?

lol @ trying to compare what I said, oh man, just stop

What is funny about it? Not being able to use one of your hands is just as big, if not a BIGGER disadvantage than moving up in weight to fight. How is that even arguable?

You dont throw punches with your ribs. But ill give Brown credit for being a tough son of a bitch to be able to fight with a broken rib.

I dont know where you went to school Rob, but I dont need a word of the day calender to use such large words as "discredit".

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

He broke it in the first round. He won the first round.

Agreed.. and if he had a fucking hand to use he probably could've won the 4th and 5th rounds too. Infact he might've won the 5th round even with the broken hand.

 

[Steel Mamba]

What is funny about it? Not being able to use one of your hands is just as big, if not a BIGGER disadvantage than moving up in weight to fight. How is that even arguable?

You dont throw punches with your ribs. But ill give Brown credit for being a tough son of a bitch to be able to fight with a broken rib.

I dont know where you went to school Rob, but I dont need a word of the day calender to use such large words as "discredit".

Not that it really matters much, but a broken rib in some circumstances can be even harder to deal with than a broken hand. Depending on how bad it is its going to be very painful just breathing in. Plus when you punch a lot of your power is generated from your torso, so having a broke rib is going to limit how effectively you can torque your punches. I don't know how bad the break was, but if it was bad enough id say that a broke rib is even worse than a broke hand in a fight.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

It didnt seem to effect him much, did it?

But we could all physically see how Faber's hand was effecting him last nite. Literally not being able to use one of your hands in an MMA fight is like pretty much giving the fight away, especially against high level talent.

 

[Liquidrob]

I'm not going to downplay fabers injury, we were not in there with him, but fighters have won fights with broken hands, have kept punching with broken hands, etc..

Franklin did it against the crow for like 4 rounds, many boxers break there hands, Fedor has broke his hand before, also you dont know what Browns ribs felt like, punching with a broken rib is not fun

Frank had a broken arm and still threw power punches with it util he couldnt do it anymore

Facts are, Brown has won 2 fights, both in the first and a 5 rounder, I can say that Brown is better than Uriah

 

[Liquidrob]

What is funny about it? Not being able to use one of your hands is just as big, if not a BIGGER disadvantage than moving up in weight to fight. How is that even arguable?

You dont throw punches with your ribs. But ill give Brown credit for being a tough son of a bitch to be able to fight with a broken rib.

I dont know where you went to school Rob, but I dont need a word of the day calender to use such large words as "discredit".

Its not a large word goof ball, you just keep saying it

You have no idea when he broke it anyway, the fight isnt just about a right hand, the neck crank he went for doesnt even evolve a hand grip, but Im sure it hurt to go for it

 

[The Buddha]

Didnt Riggs break both hands on saturday?

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

I'm not going to downplay fabers injury, we were not in there with him, but fighters have won fights with broken hands, have kept punching with broken hands, etc..

Franklin did it against the crow for like 4 rounds, many boxers break there hands, Fedor has broke his hand before, also you dont know what Browns ribs felt like, punching with a broken rib is not fun

Frank had a broken arm and still threw power punches with it util he couldnt do it anymore

Facts are, Brown has won 2 fights, both in the first and a 5 rounder, I can say that Brown is better than Uriah

Agreed, ive seen fighters with with broken hands before. The strange part about Faber was he wasnt throwing with the broken hand at all, so maybe it was more serious than we appreciate. In the other fights you mentioned, the fighter continued to throw with that hand, or hands.. Faber completely eliminated the right from his arsenal until I saw him throw the right maybe twice in the dying seconds of the fight. We both know if he hadnt broken the hand the fight might've had a very different result.

 

[The Buddha]

Faber wasnt throwing punches with his left either, every time he threw with his left it was an open hand strike.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Faber wasnt throwing punches with his left either, every time he threw with his left it was an open hand strike.

I saw him throw several straight lefts in the 4th round.. but nothing that really did any real damage or had any serious power behind it.

 

[Liquidrob]

Didnt Riggs break both hands on saturday?

yeap and had the flu