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[DJ Rhude]

Well why not just get rid of sports like boxing and MMA altogether then? Throw pro wrestling into that mix too.. I'm sure if we tallied the "in ring" devastating injuries to the "on field" ones we would see a pretty wide discrepancy. This is a bloodthirsty country that loves it's bloodsport, otherwise we'd just join up with the rest of the world and watch soccer.

Totally different sports Glen and you know that lol....you're supposed to brutalize the other person in combat sports....that is accepted.....you can't tell a boxer not to hit the other guy hard.....but still even in boxing when a guy is defenseless what do they do? they stop that shit to prevent someone from getting killed.....

Same theory applies to football if you want to compare....most of the time these guys are defenseless and I don't blame the NFL for wanting to put a cap on the kill shots that are unnecessary.....the game will still be hard hitting regardless.....I mean they stopped guys from delivering forearm shivers like Jack Tatum used to do and they eliminated the horse collar because this is football and not MMA

 

[Tailback U]

The NFL is being characteristically hypocritical about this. Here are two nominations for the NFL.com photo of the week, from Week 1. The first is called "Smashmouth Football" and the headline for the second picture is "Headbangers Ball." You can't make this up:

Yep. And they have a pretty strong history of glorifying big hits.. I'm not 100% on this but I can almost guarantee there is a "Top 10 Biggest Hits/Hitters" special that has already been run on NFL network and will now probably be thrown into the fire like it never existed. This is like the people that say they want the fighting taken out of hockey because that's what's keeping people away.

You guys know that Roger Goodell is not the webmaster of NFL.Com nor are the top 10 hits on NFL network his top 10 hits, right?

The media has and always will glorify big hits. That has been going on since the beginning of time and won't change now.

 

[Senser81]

Yep. And they have a pretty strong history of glorifying big hits.. I'm not 100% on this but I can almost guarantee there is a "Top 10 Biggest Hits/Hitters" special that has already been run on NFL network and will now probably be thrown into the fire like it never existed. This is like the people that say they want the fighting taken out of hockey because that's what's keeping people away.

Huh? What correlation is their between the NFL rulebook and what "Top 10 list" is played on the NFL Network? I saw that the NFL Network had OJ Simpson as the 40th best player in NFL history...does that mean Roger Goodall is condoning murder?

I don't think football is as "violent" as it was in the past, but I do think its more dangerous. Football was a different game back then. You had 250 lbs. offensive linemen trying to trap block 260 lbs. defensive linemen. It was more of a power game dependent on running the ball and blocking. In today's game, you have 325 lbs. offensive linemen trying to hold a steroid-produced 285 lbs. so he doesn't destroy the QB, and the QB is trying to pass to WRs who are being head-hunted by safeties who are 230 lbs. and run 4.4 40's. The chance of injury is much greater in today's game, because the game itself is more wide-open and the players are bigger and faster.

 

[SuperKevin]

Maybe we'll see Randy Moss go over the middle for the first time in his career now.

 

[Senser81]

I'm saying it's hypocritical to sell the big hits for your network and then come out and publicly denounce them. Roger Goodell isn't the webmaster for NFL.com or the NFL Network, but if he can control what ESPN runs about his league I'm pretty sure he has final say over what the League's own network programming is about.

Thats like blaming Rush when BigBucs makes yet another retarded posting.

 

[Blade]

Thats like blaming Rush when BigBucs makes yet another retarded posting.

True-er words have never been spoken before this.

 

[StealthShot]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpPtiCeuQFM[/ame]

That's how you make a clean hit.

 

[Senser81]

Maybe if Rush advertised the site based on BigBucs bad posting, found a Bucs homer forum that loved it, brought them all over and let them revel in their own slop for the better part of 40 years then started banning them for posting shitty Bucs analysis that analogy would work...

Change 40 years to "40 days", and change Bucs homer to "Gambino", and you basically described the VSN/TGL merger.

 

[Tailback U]

I'm saying it's hypocritical to sell the big hits for your network and then come out and publicly denounce them. Roger Goodell isn't the webmaster for NFL.com or the NFL Network, but if he can control what ESPN runs about his league I'm pretty sure he has final say over what the League's own network programming is about.

What? This isn't communist china. Roger Goodell has zero say as to what ESPN does or NFL.com does.

 

[longhornfan]

What? This isn't communist china. Roger Goodell has zero say as to what ESPN does or NFL.com does.

Don't really agree with that.

Did you already forget about why the show Playmakers being cancelled.

 

[Boucher]

If they make it 2 hand touch i bet i could play in the nfl

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I don't understand the hypocrisy argument some of you are making.

Let's say the NFL is being hypocritical. That makes it ok for scumbags like James Harrison to headhunt and play like a punk?

Not following the logic.

Get rid of these helmet to helmet hits, and do whatever it takes. There is no place for it.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I think you are overthinking this.

Players like Harrison & Merriweather are dirty players doing dirty things. If these types of hits were just a byproduct of a physical sport, you would see them far more frequently. You know why you don't? Because only a few guys are blatantly and intentionally trying to do these things. It's time to weed them out.

 

[NAHSTE]

I don't understand the hypocrisy argument some of you are making.

Let's say the NFL is being hypocritical. That makes it ok for scumbags like James Harrison to headhunt and play like a punk?

Not following the logic.

Get rid of these helmet to helmet hits, and do whatever it takes. There is no place for it.

Of course. I just think doing whatever it takes includes curtailing the glorification of the big hits in the press. A word from the commish would go along way with the subservient media.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Do you know who that person is? Might as well just call him the Nevada State Athletic Commission because he or it or they is what's going to have football back to our 3rd/4th favorite sport in the next 20-30 years.

Are you suggesting that the leagues popularity is tied to helmet to helmet hits?

I've never settled on my couch, bag of chips in hand, and said to myself, "man, I hope to see some helmet to helmet hits in this game. I'm really hoping for some excessive violence and dangerous injuries!".

I don't watch football for that, and neither does anyone else. This isnt NASCAR.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Ban shoulder pads...

You are completely missing the point.

You are right, it is a violent game played by large men, you will never eliminate serious injury. But there is no reason to tolerate intentional malice, especially of the helmet to helmet variety.

I think you are taking the phrase "devastating hits" too far. Clean, legal big hits will not be punished. It's the helmet to helmet to stuff, the borderline intentional and unnessacery stuff, that needs to go. Yes, I said borderline. When in doubt, punish these guys. It's the only way to make them think twice before they take a cheap shot or lay in with something extra when they don't have to. Anyone aside from Steeler or Patriot homers had to be disgusted watching those plays this weekend. Harrison is dispicable.

Another thing they need to look at, and i've been saying it for years, is the way defensive players salivate like animals when they have a chance at blindside "legal" hits on QB's, K's, and P's. You see it all the time, an INT, and the QB is 25 yards away trotting with a token effort, and some insecure with his manhood DL or LB fucking kills him from a blind angle, with far more aggression than they normally use on other players. Cowards. The hit on the Seattle P this past week on the Hester PR TD is the perfect example. Ryan was never making that play. Give him a shove, knock him down, move on. Do these guys have small dicks, or something? What's the point?

 

[wr50l]

I don't know how one can justify launching themselves head-first at a player, the mere fact that the defensive players risk themselves nevermind their opponents so willingly is unbelievable. The NFL clearly has a duty to protect the players from their reckless opponents, and in the case of narrow-minded fools like Harrison, themselves.

This sport is so fast and the guys are so big that there will always be opportunities for defensive players to deliver thunderous hits. I don't really believe knocking a guy out cold is a fair way of "separating the receiver from the ball" anyway. Removing helmet to helmet hits isn't going to make everyone run at half speed and wrap-up tackle all of a sudden.

 

[leaffan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pN17DwChuQ

Look at how many times Butkus leads with his helmet in just that clip.. Also, look at how there's about :20 of the video showing them carting bodies off the field. Gotta love the kind and gentle NFL..

You need to rewatch those videos and see the clear difference in tackling form. How many Butkus tackles had him flying like a missle head first?

I was going to type a long winded response but when you got a canadian telling you to rewatch video's and look for proper tackling well thats good enough.

 

[Senser81]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pN17DwChuQ

Look at how many times Butkus leads with his helmet in just that clip.. Also, look at how there's about :20 of the video showing them carting bodies off the field. Gotta love the kind and gentle NFL..

There were only two instances that could even remotely be considered "leading with his helmet"...one was a hit on Charlie Sanders and the other was a hit on Jerry Hill....and both times the player ended up being hit by Butkus' shoulder.

If you actually watched Butkus, he never led with his helmet because he was always trying to strip the ball. He had a ton of forced fumbles by grabbing players with one arm and stripping them with the other. You can see it in that clip.

 

[jms493]

There were only two instances that could even remotely be considered "leading with his helmet"...one was a hit on Charlie Sanders and the other was a hit on Jerry Hill....and both times the player ended up being hit by Butkus' shoulder.

If you actually watched Butkus, he never led with his helmet because he was always trying to strip the ball. He had a ton of forced fumbles by grabbing players with one arm and stripping them with the other. You can see it in that clip.

yeah clip was filled with clean tackles. did you also notice that the Helmets looked WAY smaller than the ones today?