Why Oklahoma State is more deserving of a title shot than Bama

[Rush]

Alabama leads Oklahoma State by a sizable margin in the most recent BCS rankings, but I can’t seem to figure out why. Aside from losing to LSU in The Game of the Century, what has Alabama really done? Less than Oklahoma State up to this point, actually. If the Cowboys can beat Oklahoma this Saturday  [ Read More ]

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[Warner2BruceTD]

Go Georgia.

Nothing says "BCS mess" quite like two teams that didn't even win their league playing in the national championship game.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Seriously, fuck Alabama. They had their shot. I saw that movie already.

Let's give one of these big time QB's a shot at this thing. Luck, Keenum, Moore, any of them. Okie St is exciting, too. I'd rather see one of these guys throw the ball all over the lot than watch the archaic Alabama offense that already lost gain two yards per pop. If LSU wins 38-10, so be it.

NO REMATCH

 

[ralaw]

Seriously, fuck Alabama. They had their shot. I saw that movie already.

Let's give one of these big time QB's a shot at this thing. Luck, Keenum, Moore, any of them. Okie St is exciting, too. I'd rather see one of these guys throw the ball all over the lot than watch the archaic Alabama offense that already lost gain two yards per pop. If LSU wins 38-10, so be it.

NO REMATCH

In your opinion who is the best of the 1 loss teams?

 

[ZoneBlitz]

YES REMATCH. This is the time of year i root for BCS chaos. I hope Georgia wins, and LSU still plays Alabama, and the final score is 3-0 in double overtime, while Houston stays unbeaten and Oklahoma State finishes with just 1 loss. Im surprised someone hasnt yet figured out some way to hack the BCS computers.

 

[shag773]

In your opinion who is the best of the 1 loss teams?

If Oklahoma St wins this weekend, than to me they should be in the championship game. I think the circumstances under which they lost that game at Iowa St should be taken into consideration when the pollers vote.

 

[FirstTimer]

Oklahoma lost to an average Iowa St team while Alabama lost to the #1 team in the nation...but we've aleady seen LSU vs Alabama. I'm fine with the outcome. The argument that Okalhoma St played better teams has some merit IMO and I'd put a 1 loss OkSt in over a 1 loss Alabama

 

[ralaw]

If Oklahoma St wins this weekend, than to me they should be in the championship game. I think the circumstances under which they lost that game at Iowa St should be taken into consideration when the pollers vote.

As FT already said, "Oklahoma lost to an average Iowa St team while Alabama lost to the #1 team in the nation." For me that is all that needs to be said.

I understand the way Okie St. lost, but you can't take that into consideration, as all you can do is look at who they played and whther they won. Had Okie St. won the game everyone would have been saying they played inspired, the game meant something, etc. Bottom line is they should have won the game. Voters can't start taking into consideration off the field issues....its just makes more nonsense.

...but we've aleady seen LSU vs Alabama.

I don't get people's issues with the "we've already seen it". Who cares if the best two teams in the country are playing for a second time then so be it. Are people going to complain in a couple of years when Michigan and Ohio State will play twice most of every year? Due to "tradition" people want to see them play during the regular season and since they're on opposite sides in the Big 10 they'll more than likely meet again in the Big 10 Championship game.

2 games Oh' noes!!11!!!

The whole point of crowining a champion should be based on the two best teams playing.....not some arbitrary rules that prevent the best matchup in favor of a "new matchup".

 

[ZoneBlitz]

I don't get people's issues with the "we've already seen it". Who cares if the best two teams in the country are playing for a second time then so be it. Are people going to complain in a couple of years when Michigan and Ohio State will play twice most of every year? Due to "tradition" people want to see them play during the regular season and since they're on opposite sides in the Big 10 they'll more than likely meet again in the Big 10 Championship game.

2 games Oh' noes!!11!!!

Agree completely, i have zero problems with a rematch if it was necessary.

 

[FirstTimer]

As FT already said, "Oklahoma lost to an average Iowa St team while Alabama lost to the #1 team in the nation." For me that is all that needs to be said.

I understand the way Okie St. lost, but you can't take that into consideration, as all you can do is look at who they played and whther they won. Had Okie St. won the game everyone would have been saying they played inspired, the game meant something, etc. Bottom line is they should have won the game. Voters can't start taking into consideration off the field issues....its just makes more nonsense.



I don't get people's issues with the "we've already seen it". Who cares if the best two teams in the country are playing for a second time then so be it. Are people going to complain in a couple of years when Michigan and Ohio State will play twice most of every year? Due to "tradition" people want to see them play during the regular season and since they're on opposite sides in the Big 10 they'll more than likely meet again in the Big 10 Championship game.

The whole point of crowining a champion should be based on the two best teams playing.....not some arbitrary rules that prevent the best matchup in favor of a "new matchup".

Yes.

I hated that matchup. Frankly I think it cuts the balls off "The Game" to possibly have them meet again one week later.

 

[ralaw]

Yes.

I hated that matchup. Frankly I think it cuts the balls off "The Game" to possible have them meet again one week later.

At least you'll be consistent.

 

[FirstTimer]

At least you'll be consistent.

I'm fine with them being on opposite sides if they don't meet in the regular season. IMO there are more than enough teams in college football that rematches aren't really needed or wanted for the most part.

 

[Bear Pand]

Put OK State in, a win vs Oklahoma would give them a better record vs the BCS top 25.

5-0 vs 2-1. With OK State being a conference champion.

 

[shag773]

I don't get people's issues with the "we've already seen it". Who cares if the best two teams in the country are playing for a second time then so be it. Are people going to complain in a couple of years when Michigan and Ohio State will play twice most of every year? Due to "tradition" people want to see them play during the regular season and since they're on opposite sides in the Big 10 they'll more than likely meet again in the Big 10 Championship game.

The problem I have is every single BCS supporter says the regular season replaces the playoffs, which makes it more meaningful. If that is the case, than what does it say about the "game of the century" when the outcome was essentially meaningless to the national championship picture?

I don't know of many playoff formats that put teams in a championship game after losing a "playoff" game just because people think their the best team.

 

[ralaw]

Panda and Shag have a point.........this mess is so frustrating. The problem with this whole system is that people have to look at different variables to decide who the best two teams in the country are. Some will agree, while others won't. It makes for great debate, but it doesn't really resolve the issue. After LSU and Alabama play it still won't be resolved.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

Panda and Shag have a point.........this mess is so frustrating. The problem with this whole system is that people have to look at different variables to decide who the best two teams in the country are. Some will agree, while others won't. It makes for great debate, but it doesn't really resolve the issue. After LSU and Alabama play it still won't be resolved.

Its impossible to solve the issue with the current BCS format, a new set of problems arise every year no matter what. Playoffs is the only solution.

 

[FirstTimer]

The problem I have is every single BCS supporter says the regular season replaces the playoffs, which makes it more meaningful. If that is the case, than what does it say about the "game of the century" when the outcome was essentially meaningless to the national championship picture?

I don't know of many playoff formats that put teams in a championship game after losing a "playoff" game just because people think their the best team.

Exactly.

"Every game means something" is bullshit this week because people are already pretty much saying LSU can lose, OK St can win, and Alabama can sit on their couches and the NC game is already set.

Wrap your head around that. It's the final week of the regular season in a system where allegedly "every game means something" yet the prevailing opinion is that the results of the #1 and #3 ranked teams' games means absolutely jack.

 

[EmpireWF]

lol @ Bama getting a title game birth after beating nothing but shitty teams since LOSING to LSU.

what a joke.

 

[Bear Pand]

Ok state getting punished for losing late, sitting at #5 in both human polls.

Bama getting that SEC boost even though they played about as easy of a SEC schedule as you can play. Congrats on beating up on 6-6 or worse Florida, Vandy, Tennessee, Miss State, Mississippi and 7-5 Auburn.

 

[DSpydr84]

Alabama is allowing 8.8 points per game, and they had one loss in overtime against the number one team in the country.

Keep in mind: LSU has absolutely embarrassed their competition. They took a knee inside the 10 with 5:00 minutes remaining against Ole Miss. They have not played a close game all season, except against Alabama. The same can be said for the Tide - their closest game all season besides LSU was a 24-7 beatdown at Mississippi St.

Look at every other team that's in contention: shootouts, close finishes, needed comebacks late in games.

I don't know if Alabama is deserving of a title shot, or if anybody wants to see it, but one thing is PAINFULLY clear... Alabama and LSU are the best two teams in the country.