[360] Xbox Live increasing $10 per year

[MmmmBeeeeer]

Totally worth it bro, I'd still buy it if it were $59.99 a month

 

[Twigg4075]

I know you're not broke, that is why I am saying stop being such a fucking cheap ass and cry baby over 10 fucking dollars. Like jesus christ, the way you make it sound you are broke. You buy how many games a year, and how many DLC and Arcade games and you're crying over something you pay once every year. I get you "principle" but still, it's just not something to get as enraged as you do about.

You're right. It's nothing to lose your shit about. It's just that I'm getting sick of all these gradual increases that they are trying to sneak by with to see how the consumer reacts. And as long as people keep being okay with it they will just keep going in this very bad direction.

Very much like Activision and the MW2 maps. They know that people suck that games dick so they put out map packs that are way overpriced to test the waters. Of course they sold through the roof because apparently that trash game is like crack to so many people. And because of that Black Ops maps will probably be $20 each.

 

[Ravin]

The only reason I don't get pissed is because, I don't have an option. And no, gong to PS3 isn't an option for me. Besides the fact I don't want to spend the money on the system, I really only play one game all year on xbox with everyone else who has it for the same system. So without another option for live, I have to pay for it. I could go silver, but I want party. I pay my money and then forget about it. I think I bought it in May this year, and as of today, I can't remember when. It got lost in my credit card payments and was paid off months ago.

I'm not saying if it was $100 I wouldn't think about it a little more. But for now it is 60, and $10 isn't much. I just had an HST hike in Ontario, I'm use to higher prices now.

 

[IamMedellin]

The only reason I don't get pissed is because, I don't have an option. And no, gong to PS3 isn't an option for me. Besides the fact I don't want to spend the money on the system, I really only play one game all year on xbox with everyone else who has it for the same system. So without another option for live, I have to pay for it. I could go silver, but I want party. I pay my money and then forget about it. I think I bought it in May this year, and as of today, I can't remember when. It got lost in my credit card payments and was paid off months ago.

I'm not saying if it was $100 I wouldn't think about it a little more. But for now it is 60, and $10 isn't much. I just had an HST hike in Ontario, I'm use to higher prices now.

so Microsoft has you by the balls, $10 isnt that bad, you dont mind the M$ dick being in your ass....for now...if it was a $100, different story

 

[Ravin]

so Microsoft has you by the balls, $10 isnt that bad, you dont mind the M$ dick being in your ass....for now...if it was a $100, different story

Wouldn't say they have me by the balls. I just don't really care all that much. As it is today, I'm probably a year or more from my renew, and when that date comes up, I'll pay it. It's $10 more for a year of entertainment. $5/month is nothing. You go see a movie now a days for 3 hours you're paying $10+. So to me, the value is there. $100 would be a little different, but I really don't see them getting that high. I think keeping it around a game purchase is what it will be. I think if they go higher, they have to come out with a level system and you buy what level you want.

But as it is now, all my friends have xbox. All the guys I play NHL with have xbox. So $60 a month to play with all my friends on NHL is a small price to pay. Or I could go to a free PS3 and have no one to play with except a handful of people here, and randoms. Easy choice.

 

[IamMedellin]

Wouldn't say they have me by the balls. I just don't really care all that much. As it is today, I'm probably a year or more from my renew, and when that date comes up, I'll pay it. It's $10 more for a year of entertainment. $5/month is nothing. You go see a movie now a days for 3 hours you're paying $10+. So to me, the value is there. $100 would be a little different, but I really don't see them getting that high. I think keeping it around a game purchase is what it will be. I think if they go higher, they have to come out with a level system and you buy what level you want.

But as it is now, all my friends have xbox. All the guys I play NHL with have xbox. So $60 a month to play with all my friends on NHL is a small price to pay. Or I could go to a free PS3 and have no one to play with except a handful of people here, and randoms. Easy choice.

I see...

so Microsoft has you by the balls, you dont care, $10 isnt that bad, you dont mind the M$ dick being in your ass....for now...if it was a $100, different story..

 

[KNUBB]

:smh:

I am not gonna say a thing I'm just shaking my head at the whole situation. It doesn't affect me at all so I care in the least bit, but the way you guys are shaking off this trend that MS has been going with. Eventually you will be paying another 10 bucks and then another until Live is $99 per year. Then they will be like at least it isn't 100. Like I said it doesn't affect me at all so I really don't care but the grip Ms has on you guys is amazing.

 

[leaffan]

What honestly amazes me out of this whole thing is how once again common sense is thrown out the window with you guys.

I could go into why I think there is a price jump but its going to get lost with most people.

Between the cheap fucks whining about 10 fuckin dollars and the playstation noobs who will say MS has people by the balls yet they still all whine about lag in their shit multiplayer expierence that is the PSN this thread is just full of fail.

 

[Champ]

Guess ill be a pony and fork over more money

 

[BuccaneerFan]

I'd have no problem with the $10 increase if they'd do away with those bullshit microsoft points and let us pay the actual cash price for downloadable content, instead of having to pay $20 for a $12 item. :irked:

 

[BigBucs]

That was legal?

I wouldnt know. If a "friendly" neighbor told you he could rig your shit so that yu can have free X-Box live for life would you do it. The legality? Why bother with such trivial details? :smug:

 

[jms493]

they have raised the price once from $50 to $60 in a span of ten years. so if it is another 10 years and it is $70 then fine.

You guys want the world and don't want to pay for it. You are lucky games are only $59.99. Either way companies want more money and they are going to keep testing the waters till they get what they need to stay afloat and make a profit.

It is only a matter of time before you will need to pay to play Call of Duty and Madden vs your friends on top of the xbox and PSN.

 

[jms493]

Also dont think MS is banking this money. They are going to put it back into the infrastructure of XBOX live to improve it. They want to make you feel like you need XBOX live. You will be paying more soon but MS constantly improves there dashboard every year and are constantly adding stuff.

 

[BigBucs]

Id pay 99 dollars a year if I had lag free gaming on the PS3. The rest of that shit is for nothing, cross game chatting and the other shit that xbox has. All I want is lag free games when Im trying to kick a fucking field goal, catch and interception or shoot a muthafucker. Infact id be happy if PSN came out with a pay to play system that guaranteed lag free servers.

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

Also dont think MS is banking this money. They are going to put it back into the infrastructure of XBOX live to improve it. They want to make you feel like you need XBOX live. You will be paying more soon but MS constantly improves there dashboard every year and are constantly adding stuff.

good point major nel.... err i mean jms493

 

[Twigg4075]

Id pay 99 dollars a year if I had lag free gaming on the PS3. The rest of that shit is for nothing, cross game chatting and the other shit that xbox has. All I want is lag free games when Im trying to kick a fucking field goal, catch and interception or shoot a muthafucker. Infact id be happy if PSN came out with a pay to play system that guaranteed lag free servers.

That's one off my points. Obviously they can never guarantee lag free gaming but at least for my money I should be getting dedicated servers if I'm paying for the shit.
And if anyone tries to tell you there isn't just as much lag on the 360 as the PS3 they are full of shit. The only exceptions are certain games and that is the fault of the developers, ie EA and Madden.

good point major nel.... err i mean jms493

LOL. I was thinking the same thing.

 

[leaffan]

That's one off my points. Obviously they can never guarantee lag free gaming but at least for my money I should be getting dedicated servers if I'm paying for the shit.
And if anyone tries to tell you there isn't just as much lag on the 360 as the PS3 they are full of shit. The only exceptions are certain games and that is the fault of the developers, ie EA and Madden.

LOL. I was thinking the same thing.

I'll just kinda make it easy and not go into classic leaffan troll mode. Mainly because this dedicated server thing is really really bothering me. Massive post on the way btw:

"dedicated servers" has nothing to do with sony, microsoft or even nintendo. Its the game makers that are responsible for if they want their multiplayer games to have some sort of dedicated server running it or running it off people's boxes. Companies such as activision always go with peer to peer gaming (the old someone is the host method) since all that is needed for that is a matchmaking server to basically throw people wherever it see's fit. There's a lot less cost and overhead to run the game. The same can be said for EA and all their sports games. Even the NHL series which has a game mode which can have 12 people playing at the same time runs in peer to peer mode mainly because in theory 12 people playing off someone with a 10mb connection should be no problem. Madden, Fifa ect ect all run peer to peer and the only servers needed there are matchmaking servers.

Now onto the whole "dedicated server" problem when it comes to consoles. I say problem mainly because most non pc gamers simply don't understand how companies can do dedicated servers for pc's and not consoles. MW2's no dedi servers for pc users really drove home (to me anyways) the whole thought that consolers really know nothing about the term dedicated servers and as a whole they have no idea what they mean.

In PC the gaming company simply will not pay for dedicated servers. They don't have to. Why? Because its the gamers themselves paying for the server. Not the developer.

The most common way this works is by companies like these guys: http://www.gameservers.com/

They will sell you a "20 slot counterstrike source server" for 25 bucks a month or something. Its insanely easy because they already have a base install setup and you don't have to worry about the physical computer itself since its in some massive warehouse somewhere.

Once you purchase the server you basically set it up anyway you want. You can choose to run whatever maps you want, whatever game modes, mods ect ect. You can do whatever you want. There is no cost to the developer because they don't have to do anything except support the "listen servers" which all they do is give you a menu of every game server running that game. Modern Warfare 2 took this away from PC people. Imagine in MW2 you wanted to play a specific game mode or map and didn't want to wait for match making to send you off to god knows where, well with dedicated servers you just sort by whatever and off you go. (assuming there is a server running what you want of course).

There's also the other bonuses of a better connection, ping and overall better gaming expierence by having all of this calculation done on a computer that isn't running a game and having to worry about rendering graphics and all that shit.


Now I can write up a whole other post on why the PSN's network is garbage compared to live and why paying for live is a simple necessity if you want a smooth gaming expierence. I will admit that its not as bad as it was a couple years ago but it still just sucks in comparison. The only real negatives when you compare the two is the whole money vs free and microsoft drm'ing the shit out of everything.

 

[BigBucs]

I dont pay 60 bux to deal with the technical mumbo jumbo. All I know is when I buy Madden, I buy it for online play. When I play online that shit is super laggy in comparison to offline. What pisses me off is the degree of lag seems to vary every year. Last year I would play Izzy and it was smooth now this year its laggy as fuck. It has to be more than just our connections. Neither has changed since last year, and thats just one example.

Meanwhile everyone who plays Madden on 360 says the game is lag free (or minimal) for the most part. I know EA isnt running dedicated servers for the 360 and not the PS3. What gives? What does Sony have to do to get my shit playing smooth? You want 5 dollars a month? Charge it then and fix the shit.

All that said its always EA games with the problem. With Fight Night everyone has a disconnect problem. You can be in a good fight and midway through any round the connection drops. The disc rate has to be somewhere around %60-%70 or higher, maybe 50 on a good day. EA claims they are working on the problem but this shit has been going on for like 10 months and again, its only a problem on PS3. FN players on 360 has no issue. When I play Red Dead or MW2 online I have minimal problems but with EA its an every day occurrence.

 

[dave]

I am not saying this to be a fanboy - but I rarely run into any issues online with the 360.
The PS3 sucks for Madden, is awful for MLB The Show, etc...

 

[BigBucs]

I am not saying this to be a fanboy - but I rarely run into any issues online with the 360.
The PS3 sucks for Madden, is awful for MLB The Show, etc...

Pretty much what I just said. I dont have a 360 but this is what I have heard.