Yay or Nay for Rooney Rule?

[ram29jackson]

Something no-one has mentioned is, how does the rule define a minority? Is a person who had a black grandfather but is physically white themselves classed as a minority? What about an Italian American?

what about italian Americans ? theyve been in sports since the early 1900s

 

[ram29jackson]

white owners dont interview white coaches they arent interested in hiring. So why bother interviewing a black coach you arent interested in hiring.

all this does is give Mike Singletary some free trips around the country for a little sight seeing.

 

[DoubleDeuce]

then they should start the Peyton Hillis rule where every team needs to try out white halfbacks.

No that'd be racist because it's for whites.

 

[Cryolemon]

what about italian Americans ? theyve been in sports since the early 1900s

I was just asking if they'd be classed as a minority. Presumably not based on that.

So a follow up question, does the rule specifically apply only to blacks, latinos and asians?

 

[steeljake]

I was just asking if they'd be classed as a minority. Presumably not based on that.

So a follow up question, does the rule specifically apply only to blacks, latinos and asians?

actually it only applies to blacks because according to jesse jackson the black man is the only man ever oppressed by whitey.

 

[steeljake]

i know what the rule is retard. if you had any comprehension skills you would see i was comparing it to the affirmative action laws.....hence the word law. do u understand now you ignorant fuck?

really?

Originally Posted by Maynard
i think the rooney rule is racist.

i would think being interviewed to fulfill some league obligation and have no chance at being hired would be more embarrassing then not being interviewed at all.

if i have a company i want the best people for the job. not the 3rd or 4th best person because some law or rules says thats who i have to hire.

i mean, reading between the lines in one thing there dipshit, but you kinda left no room for what you meant...

 

[Maynard]

its not my fault your stupid. there is a reason u work the hot dog stand at walmart

 

[f16harm]

If I am a billionaire owner, and it's my team paid for with my money.....I'm going to hire whoever the fuck I want.


and that's the reality, and that's how it is always going to stay.

 

[Rayman]

Fuck the Rooney rule. I couldn't be happier that Jerrah is making a mockery of a rule which is in and of itself a mockery of the hiring process.

If an owner wants to hire a minority, he'll hire a minority. Simple as that. This is 2011, not 1965.

 

[ralaw]

If I am a billionaire owner, and it's my team paid for with my money.....I'm going to hire whoever the fuck I want.


and that's the reality, and that's how it is always going to stay.

The Rooney Rule doesn't say that you must hire a minority.....just interview a qualified one.

 

[f16harm]

The Rooney Rule doesn't say that you must hire a minority.....just interview a qualified one.

No way, get out of here with that crazy talk.

Like I was saying, I'll hire (meaning interview, question, look at, smell, touch in the no-no area) anyone I fucking want when it's my team and I shelled out the $100 million and control the balanced sheet and interview process. When the league is paying part of my franchise fee, cutting my checks, then they can tell me to interview Mickey Mouse while he's fucking Goofy in the ass if they so choose.

 

[Senser81]

then they can tell me to interview Mickey Mouse while he's fucking Goofy in the ass if they so choose.

Again...

 

[MrBill]

No way, get out of here with that crazy talk.

Like I was saying, I'll hire (meaning interview, question, look at, smell, touch in the no-no area) anyone I fucking want when it's my team and I shelled out the $100 million and control the balanced sheet and interview process. When the league is paying part of my franchise fee, cutting my checks, then they can tell me to interview Mickey Mouse while he's fucking Goofy in the ass if they so choose.

The league controls the disbursement of your TV revenues and as part of becoming an owner you signed documents making yourself subject to the rulings of the league office so you might want to get Mickey on the phone and tell Goofy to buy lots of lube.

 

[ralaw]

No way, get out of here with that crazy talk.

Like I was saying, I'll hire (meaning interview, question, look at, smell, touch in the no-no area) anyone I fucking want when it's my team and I shelled out the $100 million and control the balanced sheet and interview process. When the league is paying part of my franchise fee, cutting my checks, then they can tell me to interview Mickey Mouse while he's fucking Goofy in the ass if they so choose.

You better run that past your minority part owners in Gloria Estefan, Emilio Estefan, Jennifer Lopez, Marc Anthony, Venus Williams, and Serena Williams.

So, what you tryin' to say?
Minority money is good enough, but not a minority coach?11?1?

 

[Maynard]

The Rooney Rule doesn't say that you must hire a minority.....just interview a qualified one.

and thats fine if you dont have a clear choice for who u wish to hire. But SF knows they want harbaugh. if harbaugh wants to coach there then SF should not have to go through the motions of interviewing someone just to follow a rule. Why would they talk to a minority coach when they know harbaugh is their guy?

 

[f16harm]

You better run that past your minority part owners in Gloria Estefan, Emilio Estefan, Jennifer Lopez, Marc Anthony, Venus Williams, and Serena Williams.

So, what you tryin' to say?
Minority money is good enough, but not a minority coach?11?1?

Do you have any idea how much stake those jokers actually own? I think it's less than 5% combined for all of them. They are simply paid entertainers to come put there face on Miami events/games. They have no say in football related decisions...and furthermore, from a business standpoint, they really have no say at all if Ross wants to do something, because he has the majority. All he has to do is make sure they get their appropriate monetary payouts equivalent to their share holdings

P.S. And you forgot Fergie.
P.S.S. Why did you relate this to Miami's organizational structure, my replies were based on if I were owning a team and how most owners probably view the process.

 

[f16harm]

and thats fine if you dont have a clear choice for who u wish to hire. But SF knows they want harbaugh. if harbaugh wants to coach there then SF should not have to go through the motions of interviewing someone just to follow a rule. Why would they talk to a minority coach when they know harbaugh is their guy?

bingo....

 

[Rayman]

and thats fine if you dont have a clear choice for who u wish to hire. But SF knows they want harbaugh. if harbaugh wants to coach there then SF should not have to go through the motions of interviewing someone just to follow a rule. Why would they talk to a minority coach when they know harbaugh is their guy?

They actually are obligated to interview two minorities since the guy they fired was one.


:shifty:

 

[Youk]

i think the rooney rule is racist.

i would think being interviewed to fulfill some league obligation and have no chance at being hired would be more embarrassing then not being interviewed at all.

if i have a company i want the best people for the job. not the 3rd or 4th best person because some law or rules says thats who i have to hire.

Amen to that. Look at the Cowboys, interviewing their black WR coach for the Rooney Rule. It's obvious he's not getting the job, but not because of race. He was a fucking WR coach. It makes a joke out of the process and, in my opinion, out of anyone who gets interviewed because of it.

The Cowboys can't hire Garrett straight from being an interim head coach, but the Vikings can hire Frazier straight from being an interim head coach. If you really wanted to, you could call that racism. :smug:

 

[ralaw]

and thats fine if you dont have a clear choice for who u wish to hire. But SF knows they want harbaugh. if harbaugh wants to coach there then SF should not have to go through the motions of interviewing someone just to follow a rule. Why would they talk to a minority coach when they know harbaugh is their guy?

Even if a team knows who they want there is a time with SF and every team looking for a new coach when they go through the evaluation process....that is the time the RR is supposed to kick in. The RR is based on ideals.....the ideal that teams bring in mutiple candidates...and hire someone; however, we all know that doesn't always happen, so the rule obviously has its flaws. However, its important to remember the RR has less to do with the teams and more to do with creating more opportunity for minority candidates.