YNWA: The Liverpool Thread

[mgoblue2290]

You're not seriously bashing United right now are you? Not following that disgracing of Anfield. We haven't won the FA yet and the Carling, while a nice trophy, isn't much to brag about. There's a real possibility we finish in the bottom half.

 

[CaribbeanJoseph]

You're not seriously bashing United right now are you? Not following that disgracing of Anfield. We haven't won the FA yet and the Carling, while a nice trophy, isn't much to brag about. There's a real possibility we finish in the bottom half.

Dominated them but the players couldn't finish yet again, we've been playing for nothing in the league for donkeys who gives a shit, nothing to do but :lol: at it all.


After the grief we've had to take all season from them, damn right I'm bashing the mancs.

 

[1ke]

Manc are getting desperate LOL.

So you wouldnt want to trade places right now?

 

[CaribbeanJoseph]

So you wouldnt want to trade places right now?

:no:

 

[mgoblue2290]

We dominated possession but I'd argue their chances were better than ours. We just sent in cross after cross praying somebody would do something. Kuyt had a couple decent shots but they were from a shit angle. Its beyond finishing at this point. Our whole formation and style of play is wrong. Our 2 midfielders are fucking useless hanging back 25-30 yards.

The league does matter. Finishing in the bottom half is unacceptable regardless of how many trophies we win. Finishing below 7th is unacceptable really. You think we're going to draw big names if we finish 9th, 10th, or 11th? Fuck no. We've got no business talking shit to any team, especially one who may be capturing their 20th league title soon while we sit around and jerk it to a Carling Cup.

 

[wr50l]

No 1ke, they beat Blackburn so he's top of the world.

 

[1ke]

Lol Retard. Congrats on your draw with Cardiff for your mickey mouse trophy.

You might even get the FA. But to say you wouldnt want to be on top with 3 games left is retarded. Youre struggling to make the top half of the table.

 

[CaribbeanJoseph]

We dominated possession but I'd argue their chances were better than ours. We just sent in cross after cross praying somebody would do something. Kuyt had a couple decent shots but they were from a shit angle. Its beyond finishing at this point. Our whole formation and style of play is wrong. Our 2 midfielders are fucking useless hanging back 25-30 yards.

The league does matter. Finishing in the bottom half is unacceptable regardless of how many trophies we win. Finishing below 7th is unacceptable really. You think we're going to draw big names if we finish 9th, 10th, or 11th? Fuck no. We've got no business talking shit to any team, especially one who may be capturing their 20th league title soon while we sit around and jerk it to a Carling Cup.

You're far too negative, we played some great football, we were just wasteful for the umpteenth time this season. The move that led to Hendo the crossbar was gorgeous. Coming 7th or coming 11th really makes no difference. Yea our league performance has been shocking but it's been a strange season, I mean you'd think thing would balance themselves out over the course of a season but it's gone on all season long. We really have played well for the majority, it's just the chance conversion, it'd be another story if we were playing shite. I'll take 2 cup finals over their season any day and the fact that I've had to listen to them go on all season only for them to fuck it up at this stage and have fuck all to show for the season of course I'm gonna be giving them abuse.

 

[CaribbeanJoseph]

Lol Retard. Congrats on your draw with Cardiff for your mickey mouse trophy.

You might even get the FA. But to say you wouldnt want to be on top with 3 games left is retarded. Youre struggling to make the top half of the table.

The Carling Cup is what it is a shitty cup, I'm not denying it, only mancs try and claim its some massive achievement.


Your only top til next week, City have it in the bag, like I said I'll take 2 cup finals over nothing any day which is what you'll be left with when the seasons finished :smug:


Beat 6-1 @ OT, pathetic
Put out the CL by Basel, pathetic
Out the CC by CRystal Palace :lol:, pathetic
Out the shitty Europa League, pathetic
Put out the FA by us, :smug:
Blown a 7 point lead with 3 games to go, pathetic


Our season to this point >>>>>> yours

 

[mgoblue2290]

You will take a cup and a final over being on top of the table? Get the fuck out. If we're in the Champions League and we're in the final, sure. I'd take their position and the chance to win the league over the Carling and the FA.

We played great football? Really? Reaaaaallllyyyy??? It is beyond luck at this point. Bad luck may occur in a couple games, we just are not good enough to put the ball in the net. It is not luck at this point, we are just terrible in the final third. Our tactics are wrong and the players are wrong too.

 

[mgoblue2290]

The Carling Cup is what it is a shitty cup, I'm not denying it, only mancs try and claim its some massive achievement.


Your only top til next week, City have it in the bag, like I said I'll take 2 cup finals over nothing any day which is what you'll be left with when the seasons finished :smug:


Beat 6-1 @ OT, pathetic
Put out the CL by Basel, pathetic
Out the CC by CRystal Palace :lol:, pathetic
Out the shitty Europa League, pathetic
Put out the FA by us, :smug:
Blown a 7 point lead with 3 games to go, pathetic


Our season to this point >>>>>> yours

You are delusional. Please stop.

 

[1ke]

I know, I made the CC a massive achievement by calling it a mickey mouse trophy. Ill admit, our season wasnt the greatest, but you guys (rawkites) wish you could have all those pathetic events happen to you this season and still have a chance to make history with 20.

Im not worried about next week. We went there once and won, we can do it again and we dont even need to win. Nothing is in the bag as they have to go to Newcastle the week after.

Ill ask you this again. You really think your season to this point is better than United's?

 

[CaribbeanJoseph]

You will take a cup and a final over being on top of the table? Get the fuck out. If we're in the Champions League and we're in the final, sure. I'd take their position and the chance to win the league over the Carling and the FA.

We played great football? Really? Reaaaaallllyyyy??? It is beyond luck at this point. Bad luck may occur in a couple games, we just are not good enough to put the ball in the net. It is not luck at this point, we are just terrible in the final third. Our tactics are wrong and the players are wrong too.

Over being top with 3 to go, of course, no doubt in my mind that City will win now so being top on April 22nd means fuck all, if they win the league then yes it's a different story.


I agree its a combination of shitty finishing, bad luck, no Lucas, no Stevie for a good part, the Suarez ban and the fact that we've too many good/deccent players and not enough great ones. We've been out of real contention for so long that I'm not gonna get heated over what we do in the league at this point, have we been good enough to deserve Top 4 this season probably not but we've been better than our results.

 

[CaribbeanJoseph]

I know, I made the CC a massive achievement by calling it a mickey mouse trophy. Ill admit, our season wasnt the greatest, but you guys (rawkites) wish you could have all those pathetic events happen to you this season and still have a chance to make history with 20.

Im not worried about next week. We went there once and won, we can do it again and we dont even need to win. Nothing is in the bag as they have to go to Newcastle the week after.

Ill ask you this again. You really think your season to this point is better than United's?

Yes because as far as I'm concerned you threw away the league today, so being top with 3 to go means sweet fuck all. If you win the league then fair enough your season > ours but at this point and unless you do infact win the league, ours > yours.

 

[wr50l]

He's gone full-retard yet again.

 

[mgoblue2290]

Over being top with 3 to go, of course, no doubt in my mind that City will win now so being top on April 22nd means fuck all, if they win the league then yes it's a different story.


I agree its a combination of shitty finishing, bad luck, no Lucas, no Stevie for a good part, the Suarez ban and the fact that we've too many good/deccent players and not enough great ones. We've been out of real contention for so long that I'm not gonna get heated over what we do in the league at this point, have we been good enough to deserve Top 4 this season probably not but we've been better than our results.

We are not better than our results. Thats the point of playing a full 38 games to accurately determine and display your side's true ability. Our quality is that of a mid-table club. We don't even have enough good players. Lucas and Suarez our are great players. Stevie is still there too but he is getting up there in years and it doesn't seem he can regularly feature as much anymore. I wish he could, but this appears to be the reality.

These are the players that I would like to see regularly play next season:
Reina- Still one of the best. He took a gamble today and guessed wrong.
Johnson- Arguably our best wide player.
Coates- Another young player who needs time when we can give it to him.
Skrtel- Possibly our best player this season.
Agger- Him and Skrtel partner very well and with Lucas in front, our defense is the best in the league.
Enrique- I would like to see Kelly more on the right and Johnson on the left but Enrique is still good. He probably shouldn't go forward as much and he seems to be a guy who plays better as his team does better.
Lucas- We really miss him. A great player. Hopefully his knee recovers 100%.
Henderson- He's never going to set the world on fire but he's a good center mid.
Stevie- I mentioned it above, getting up there and we should be in the market for a creative center mid.
Shelvey- Still too young to feature in every match, but should definitely get some time.
Suarez- Obviously.
Kuyt- Only if he agrees to be a squad player and not a regular first team player.

We need a winger and a striker most of all.

 

[CaribbeanJoseph]

We are not better than our results. Thats the point of playing a full 38 games to accurately determine and display your side's true ability. Our quality is that of a mid-table club. We don't even have enough good players. Lucas and Suarez our are great players. Stevie is still there too but he is getting up there in years and it doesn't seem he can regularly feature as much anymore. I wish he could, but this appears to be the reality.

These are the players that I would like to see regularly play next season:
Reina- Still one of the best. He took a gamble today and guessed wrong.
Johnson- Arguably our best wide player.
Coates- Another young player who needs time when we can give it to him.
Skrtel- Possibly our best player this season.
Agger- Him and Skrtel partner very well and with Lucas in front, our defense is the best in the league.
Enrique- I would like to see Kelly more on the right and Johnson on the left but Enrique is still good. He probably shouldn't go forward as much and he seems to be a guy who plays better as his team does better.
Lucas- We really miss him. A great player. Hopefully his knee recovers 100%.
Henderson- He's never going to set the world on fire but he's a good center mid.
Stevie- I mentioned it above, getting up there and we should be in the market for a creative center mid.
Shelvey- Still too young to feature in every match, but should definitely get some time.
Suarez- Obviously.
Kuyt- Only if he agrees to be a squad player and not a regular first team player.

We need a winger and a striker most of all.

So your gonna sit there and tell me West Brom deserved to win, we were all over them and I'm still not sure how we managed to lose. I'm well aware results > everything but I don't know how many times that this has happened this season, the players certainly have to take a good chunk of the blame but we haven't got the results that our play has deserved alot this season, Spurs and City away are the only 2 games that come to mind where we've been properly outclassed and Bolton away when we played like shite.
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We're like the anti-United, they play shit and manage to still win, we play well and draw/lose



e: Don't get me wrong I agree 100% our league performance is not acceptable but I can't remember the amount of times we've drawn or lost this season that I've been at a loss to understand how it happened (aside from the obvious piss poor finishing :facepalm.

 

[mgoblue2290]

If this were the beginning of the year and this game happened. I would say ah well, we controlled the match but just couldn't get a goal or two. The results will come, I'm not worried. That is no longer the case. It doesn't matter if we deserve to win or not, only that we do win. I think this may the dressing room mentality of our players. That eventually the ball will just end up in the net and we'll get the win. It is not the case. We can't blame luck or wait for things to go way. We have to go out there and take the three points, not wait for it to come to us.

 

[CaribbeanJoseph]

If this were the beginning of the year and this game happened. I would say ah well, we controlled the match but just couldn't get a goal or two. The results will come, I'm not worried. That is no longer the case. It doesn't matter if we deserve to win or not, only that we do win. I think this may the dressing room mentality of our players. That eventually the ball will just end up in the net and we'll get the win. It is not the case. We can't blame luck or wait for things to go way. We have to go out there and take the three points, not wait for it to come to us.

I agree with all of this it's definitely a mental issue with the players lacking the self belief that they're gonna score and they need to take the majority of the blame but at the same time our defence has been excellent for the most part (3rd behind the top 2), chances keep on being created and some of it has been luck (hit the post another 2 times today). Pretty much while the results haven't been there, I'm far more understanding than when Roy was here and we were having similar results because the product on the pitch is better even if the results aren't at this stage, it's gotta even itself out eventually.

 

[CaribbeanJoseph]

Don't underestimate what a shambles we were in when KK took over. It's gonna take longer than we would like but we're getting there, I mean it was great just to be in a cup final again let alone 2 in 1 season, I think we really need to be patient and give him more than 1 full season. If we are back here next year in this same position then yea maybe things need to change but for now, no. As I've said many times before, at the start of the season 4th was my main concern but I think as we can see now, we were being overly optimistic if we thought it was realistic. You can chose to be negative if you want but all things considered I think there's far more to be positive about moving forward.