• Rules and regulations here: http://www.virtualsportsnetwork.com/forum/showthread.php?133219-VSN-Secret-Santa-Donation-Drive-Raffle-Waffle-Maynard-is-Awful&p=2346085#post2346085
  • We have just launched a new VSN Amazon Store. This new store will allow you to order games (including PC downloads) and anything else you want from Amazon and help VSN out at the same time! You get the exact same deals and pre-order bonuses through our store front as you do from Amazon so please bookmark this link and use it when you are shopping at Amazon.com - [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/"][COLOR="#0000FF"][U]VSN Amazon Store[/U][/COLOR][/URL] Here are some direct links to pre-order the major upcoming titles- [B][SIZE=4][COLOR="#0000FF"]PlayStation 4[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BGA9WK2"]PlayStation 4 500GB Console[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00HVBPRUO"]PlayStation 4 Gold Wireless Headset[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BGA9X9W"]PlayStation 4 DualShock 4 Wireless Controller[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BGAA3S2"]PlayStation 4 Camera[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DCBDNW6"]Final Fantasy XIV: A REALM REBORN[/URL] - April 14th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00J128FPA"]Final Fantasy XIV: A REALM REBORN Collectors Edition[/URL] - April 14th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IMVRVC4"]Trials Fusion[/URL] - April 15th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GG4BBUM"]MLB 14: The Show[/URL] - May 6th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DHF39KS"]Wolfenstein: The New Order[/URL] - May 20th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BI83EVU"]Watch Dogs[/URL] - May 27th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DYAQHTQ"]Watch Dogs Limited Edition[/URL] - May 27th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00I0574EW"]Murdered Soul Suspect[/URL] - June 3rd [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DHF39HQ"]The Elder Scrolls Online[/URL] - June 30th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BGA9ZZ4"]Drive Club[/URL] - September 30th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GZ1GUSY"]Tomb Raider Definitive Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00H5V9S6E"]Rayman Legends - Standard Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00C27SCC2"]Thief[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00HD4R5YU"]Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes Standard Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BGAA0SU"]inFAMOUS Second Son Limited Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FYIXMHQ"]inFAMOUS Second Son Collectors Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00D2ZK1IG"]Dying Light[/URL] [B][SIZE=4][COLOR="#0000FF"]PlayStation 3[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00B0JALUE"]PlayStation 3 500GB Console[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00AEX81SG"]PlayStation 3 250GB Console[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GY4OAIE"]LEGO The Hobbit[/URL] - April 8th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00I9UVY30"]FIFA 2014 World Cup Brazil[/URL] - April 15th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00ICWO2ZW"]Darksiders Collection[/URL] - April 29th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00ICWO2P2"]Red Faction Collection[/URL] - April 29th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00HQY8LRM"]Rambo The Video Game[/URL] - April 29th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FRESXSA"]The Amazing Spider-Man 2[/URL] - April 29th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00CPKUV98"]Wolfenstein: The New Order[/URL] - May 20th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00J6DLPLK"]Drakengard 3[/URL] - May 20th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BGHUS58"]Watch Dogs[/URL] - May 27th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DYAQHZ0"]Watch Dogs Collectors Edition[/URL] - May 27th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BG6ZHK0"]Murdered: Soul Suspect[/URL] - June 3rd [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IGHP28Y"]Transformers Rise of The Dark Spark[/URL] - June 24th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DNGQTFI"]Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Z[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00H4BBTCQ"]Tomb Raider - GOTY Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00HNYWFMC"]Far Cry Compilation [/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00946FSIA"]Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00HQY8LRM"]Rambo The Video Game[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FQFFPZO"]NASCAR '14[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DFT92MU"]Thief[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B0088MVP3S"]Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00ECOBFCC"]The LEGO Movie Videogame[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B006IOAHPK"]South Park: The Stick of Truth[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FDQQD52"]South Park: The Stick of Truth Grand Wizard Edition [/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00F6YD2AK"]Dark Souls II Black Armor Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00F6YD2FK"]Dark Souls II Collectors Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GJSUUC0"]Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes Standard Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00E44EZYA"]Ultra Street Fighter IV[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00D2ZK2O4"]Dying Light[/URL] [B][SIZE=4][COLOR="#0000FF"]Xbox One[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00CMQTVUA"]Xbox One Console[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00MCLFZ1Y"]Xbox One Console Madden 15 Bundle[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IIHU44E"]Xbox One Console Titanfall Bundle[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00HVPFGD8"]Titanfall Limited Edition Controller[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00CMQTUSS"]Xbox One Wireless Controller[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IAVDQCK"]Xbox One Stereo Headset[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IAVDOS6"]Xbox One Stereo Headset Adapter[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GY4OB8S"]LEGO The Hobbit[/URL] - April 8th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00CMQTUCE"]KINECT Sports: Rivals[/URL] - April 8th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IMVRVA6"]Trials Fusion[/URL] - April 15h [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FRESTZW"]The Amazing Spider-Man 2[/URL] - April 29th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DHF39L2"]Wolfenstein: The New Order[/URL] - May 20th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00CX8VY4S"]Watch Dogs[/URL] - May 27th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DYAQI0E"]Watch Dogs Limited Edition[/URL] - May 27th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00I0574CO"]Murdered Soul Suspect[/URL] - June 3rd [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IGH2HKU"]Transformers Rise of The Dark Spark[/URL] - June 24th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DHF39EO"]The Elder Scrolls Online[/URL] - June 30th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GZ1GUNO"]Tomb Raider Definitive Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DBCAS7E"]Zoo Tycoon[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00H5V9SLE"]Rayman Legends - Standard Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00CYNTHA0"]Thief[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DB9JYFY"]Titanfall[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00G2HSX86"]Titanfall Collectors Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00HD4R5WC"]Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes Standard Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00D2ZK2MQ"]Dying Light[/URL] [B][SIZE=4][COLOR="#0000FF"]Xbox 360[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FATRKOK"]Xbox 360 250GB Holiday Value Console[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GZ9ESEE"]Xbox 360 250GB Console w/Halo 4, Darksiders II, Tomb Raider and Batman: Arkham City[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B003ZSP0WW"]Xbox 360 Wireless Controller[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DC9SWWE"]Titanfall[/URL] - April 8th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00G2HSWZU"]Titanfall Collectors Edition[/URL] - April 8th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GY4OBB0"]LEGO The Hobbit[/URL] - April 8th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00I9UVY7G"]FIFA 2014 World Cup Brazil[/URL] - April 15th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00ICWO2G6"]Darksiders Collection[/URL] - April 29th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FRESY6G"]The Amazing Spider-Man 2[/URL] - April 29th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00CPKUV7K"]Wolfenstein: The New Order[/URL] - May 20th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BGD6LMG"]Watch Dogs[/URL] - May 27th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DYAQHNC"]Watch Dogs Limited Edition[/URL] - May 27th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00BG6ZHL4"]Murdered: Soul Suspect[/URL] - June 3rd [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IGHY7LC"]Transformers Rise of The Dark Spark[/URL] - June 24th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DNGQQUQ"]Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Z[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00H4BBVZQ"]Tomb Raider - GOTY Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DBCAT3W"]Fable Anniversary[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00946FSJ4"]Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FQFFQ2Q"]NASCAR '14[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DFT92EI"]Thief[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B0088MVP2Y"]Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00ECOBFA4"]The LEGO Movie Videogame[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B006IOAHTQ"]South Park: The Stick of Truth[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FDQQD6Q"]South Park: The Stick of Truth Grand Wizard Edition [/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00F6YD26Y"]Dark Souls II Black Armor Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00F6YD27I"]Dark Souls II Collectors Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GJSUXLS"]Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes Standard Edition[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00E44EZPE"]Ultra Street Fighter IV[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00D2ZK2RQ"]Dying Light[/URL] [B][SIZE=4][COLOR="#0000FF"]Wii U[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00GY4OAM0"]LEGO The Hobbit[/URL] - April 22nd [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00FRESQKU"]The Amazing Spider-man 2[/URL] - April 29th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DC7G2W8"]Mario Kart 8[/URL] - May 30th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00IGH1LJ8"]Transformers Rise of the Dark Spark[/URL] - June 24th [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00DC7O77A"]Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze[/URL] [URL="http://astore.amazon.com/vsngaming-20/detail/B00ECOAX34"]The LEGO Movie Videogame[/URL]
  • We are looking to possibly form a second XB1 Madden 15 league on VSN. Please visit the Sports Gaming subforum and post in the thread if you are interested.
  • There will be a site outage from 12 pm est till 3 am est
  • If you are having trouble accessing your account and don't remember your password, email help@virtualsportsnetwork.com and i'll get you an updated password for 2024.

Your Top 10 Favorite Players of All-Time

He averaged 21/9/4 his first six seasons in the league. Sorry for being slightly off.

http://bkref.com/tiny/B0rQO

Five seasons averaged 17/7/3 between 1995-2003. Only 16 players made that list total, Walker is on there 5 times while Malone, Webber and Garnett were the only ones on that list more. Severely underrated player.

3 comments:

1) Walker never averaged 22/9/5 in his career. So to say he consistently did this is...wrong.

2) 17/7/3 sounds like a counting stat to me. Of those 49 17/7/3 seasons turned in by players from 95-03, Walker has FIVE OF THE ELEVEN LEAST REMARKABLE SEASONS. So basically you found a stat that sounds somewhat impressive in which Walker is clearly the weakest player to ever do so. He makes Tom Gugliotta and Shareef Adbur-Raheem seem like superstars.

3) To draw a sports analogy, Walker reminds me of Neal Anderson of the Bears, who was another underrated guy and consistently had 2000-yard rushing seasons for the Bears in the 1990's.
 
He averaged 21/9/4 his first six seasons in the league. Sorry for being slightly off.

http://bkref.com/tiny/B0rQO

Five seasons averaged 17/7/3 between 1995-2003. Only 16 players made that list total, Walker is on there 5 times while Malone, Webber and Garnett were the only ones on that list more. Severely underrated player.


Don't neglect my counterpoints. :shifty:

He was talented but there is no denying he was extremely unproductive, there is a reason he is at the very very bottom of your list in win shares lol.
 
3 comments:

1) Walker never averaged 22/9/5 in his career. So to say he consistently did this is...wrong.

2) 17/7/3 sounds like a counting stat to me. Of those 49 17/7/3 seasons turned in by players from 95-03, Walker has FIVE OF THE ELEVEN LEAST REMARKABLE SEASONS. So basically you found a stat that sounds somewhat impressive in which Walker is clearly the weakest player to ever do so. He makes Tom Gugliotta and Shareef Adbur-Raheem seem like superstars.

3) To draw a sports analogy, Walker reminds me of Neal Anderson of the Bears, who was another underrated guy and consistently had 2000-yard rushing seasons for the Bears in the 1990's.

He's at the bottom of the list because it's based on win shares, and correct me if I'm wrong, but win shares is solely based on how much you contributed to a teams win that game, no? I never said he was Tim Duncan or KG, so I don't expect him to be able to turn a team of misfits into a .500 squad.

He was on the worst teams I can remember for a majority of his productive seasons. They didn't win any games, thus his win shares is so low. The best player on his team until Paul Pierce developed was Kenny Anderson, and then maybe Eric Williams.

There's a reason the Celtics went from a 16-25 win team (just Walker) to a 45 win team (Pierce+Walker) back down to a 20-30 win team (just Pierce). They had the thinnest NBA roster for a decade that you'll ever see, and it's because they were horrendous at drafting and trading.

Although I feel like my point is way off now, as it seems people are saying I thought he was the best player in the NBA. I just simply think he was the most underrated versatile player in the league from the late 90's/early 2000's.
 
He's at the bottom of the list because it's based on win shares, and correct me if I'm wrong, but win shares is solely based on how much you contributed to a teams win that game, no? I never said he was Tim Duncan or KG, so I don't expect him to be able to turn a team of misfits into a .500 squad.

Even aside from the win shares, his seasons were the weakest of any of the other players on the list. He is averaging about 18 ppg, 7-8 rebs, and 3 assists, so he is on the borderline every time. His shooting percentages are so terrible they have to be seen to be believed (in 2001-02, Walker led the NBA in FG attempts with 1689 while SHOOTING 39% FROM THE FIELD! Walker missed 1000+ shots IN ONE SEASON ALONE) and the guy was a turnover machine.

IIRC, part of Boston's woes were due to the fact that Walker was making an exorbitant salary and not producing at a superstar level.
 
Even aside from the win shares, his seasons were the weakest of any of the other players on the list. He is averaging about 18 ppg, 7-8 rebs, and 3 assists, so he is on the borderline every time. His shooting percentages are so terrible they have to be seen to be believed (in 2001-02, Walker led the NBA in FG attempts with 1689 while SHOOTING 39% FROM THE FIELD! Walker missed 1000+ shots IN ONE SEASON ALONE) and the guy was a turnover machine.

IIRC, part of Boston's woes were due to the fact that Walker was making an exorbitant salary and not producing at a superstar level.
Antoine Walker was a poor mans Luol Deng?
 
Who the fuck alleges Walker was a number 1?

You read this post right?

He was the leader of Boston, and the most versatile player in the league at the time. He gets a bad rep because he 'sat at the three point line', when in reality it was because he had dumbass Rick Pitino as the coach to start his career. Then Jim O'Brien left the system the same. O'Brien's gameplan was let everyone sit at the 3 point line and chuck it. At the time, it worked because they were an effective shooting team. Hell, I even remember one fantasy season where Antoine Walker was #1 and Paul Pierce was #2.

His rookie year, the second best player on the team was David Wesley, with Rick Fox being third. Then he had seasons where it was Walker/Pierce/no one else.

Pitino made Walker his point guard, his small forward and his power forward every game early in his career because his teams were absolute dog shit. When he had legitimate teams, he posted 22/9/5 consistently while shooting a pretty decent clip from the three point line. He was the leader of the team during those ECF seasons vs. the Nets. You'd see a disengaged immature Paul Pierce in the huddle while Antoine Walker amped up the team night after night, including that game where they came back from 20+ down in the 4th quarter vs. New Jersey. If you can ever find the video, go watch it. You'll see Walker screaming at his team while everyone else looked defeated.

Yeah he was a knucklehead outside of his NBA career, and tailed off tremendously at the end, but it's not like that's not a common theme with the best players in the NBA of the late 90's/early 2000's (Shawn Kemp, Marbury, Steve Francis, McGrady, etc.)

Find me a 6 foot 8 power forward with the post moves, passing, dribbles and rebounding that Walker had
 
As soon as Pierce showed up Antoine immediately became 2nd fiddle mostly because he refused to play like a big man, you can't claim he was versatile if he didn't use his versatility properly. Antoine was talented I'll give him that but everything was self inflicted, he thought he was better than he was, he never improved in fact he best year was rookie year and he just gradually declined because he settled and never improved his game.
 
As soon as Pierce showed up Antoine immediately became 2nd fiddle mostly because he refused to play like a big man, you can't claim he was versatile if he didn't use his versatility properly. Antoine was talented I'll give him that but everything was self inflicted, he thought he was better than he was, he never improved in fact he best year was rookie year and he just gradually declined because he settled and never improved his game.
Who the hell are you responding to?
 
How was he not versatile? LOL

The guy could play three positions effectively in the NBA (PG/SF/PF), and he could run an offense as well as be a force on the block. The only players putting up his type of game were block players in Webber/Duncan/Garnett. All better players, but unable to handle point like Walker could. I'll ignore FT since he's on an agenda (per usual) since I smacked him around in the other thread, and he likes to groan my posts but doesn't groan the same exact one ATB posted. Loco's age already shows he just started watching them play once they got to the ECF. Typical bandwagoner.

So for the only logical person here (Senser), what part of his game wasn't versatile? He wasn't a great natural shooter, but that didn't mean he didn't have the talent to play all three positions throughout his career. Nowhere did I mention he was a shooting guard and should be shooting 30 times a game.

If you didn't watch Boston play night in and night out you really don't know how much he carried the team during their initial burst into the ECF. He was the leader of the team and the team rallied through him until he left.

It's no surprise people are results oriented. Pierce was an immature player until KG/Allen showed up, but no one will remember that because they only see him winning a title. Walker left and the team instantly went into the tank during Pierce's prime.

In fact, the team had to trade for Walker back after he went to the Hawks, and instantly the team went on a crazy run to make it back to the playoffs. Pierce needed someone to carry the team emotionally, and that was Walker.

All I've said was he was a tremendously underrated versatile player, and that he was the leader of the Celtics. Those two statements are true. I never claimed he was a HOF type player or someone who can carry a team night in and night out. Emotionally he could, but talent wise he needed some players to help him (IE: Pierce).
 
I'll ignore FT since he's on an agenda (per usual) since I smacked him around in the other thread
1. What thread? :lol: At you "smacking me around" anywhere. Much less here.

2. What agenda? I corrected a statistical mistake you made. I never gave my thoughts on Antoine Walker. I never labeled him as "not versatile" etc.

3. You seem to be bitching for no reason. What the hell are you blabbering on about?
 
Don't be the typical woodshed FT we've known to hate here at VSN. You're trolling around groaning every post, which means you disagree with what I'm saying. And in typical FT form you can't counter statistics that I'm giving you, while simply resorting to 'I'm not talking to you!'

You need to stop surrending so easily and be a good little boy while you take your beatings.
 
1. What thread? :lol: At you "smacking me around" anywhere. Much less here.

2. What agenda? I corrected a statistical mistake you made. I never gave my thoughts on Antoine Walker. I never labeled him as "not versatile" etc.

3. You seem to be bitching for no reason. What the hell are you blabbering on about?

Please answer the above questions.
Don't be the typical woodshed FT we've known to hate here at VSN. You're trolling around groaning every post, which means you disagree with what I'm saying. And in typical FT form you can't counter statistics that I'm giving you, while simply resorting to 'I'm not talking to you!'

You need to stop surrending so easily.

I'm groaning your posts because your homerism over the guy is rather annoying. And because you posted a faulty stat. Posted another stat that I felt you drew a bad conclusion from. Senser covered that then groaned you for saying I had some "agenda" and quasi implied I may have said Walker wasn't versatile. Then more homerific blabbering. Then the most recent groan for choosing to ignore my questions and not being able to figure out what groans are for.

Clear now boy?

No "surrending" here.
 
Back
Top