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Zuffa HAS kicked THE REEM out of the GP

Because there is no history of that in Showtime, you really think Showtime who has been in boxing forever would expect a guy to take a fight less than 3 months from his last fight? lol, it doesnt work like that

Let me tell you what happened, the UFC has 2 events in october already, so than there is only 2 staurdays left in oct, Showtime probably has those dates for boxing already filled, so they came back with sept and november, it would have been in Oct if zuffa wasnt in charge, because they dont care about competing UFC's when is was coker

So now zuffa goes, ok, will do it in september instead of waiting for november because we want this GP over with, that's were it comes from

case closed

But rob, this is all just a personal theory by someone who is never objective.

All we really know for sure is that Showtime did not want to delay it. It doesnt matter what Showtime has done in the past. They didnt want to delay this time.

And I also find it comical how you sympathize with Overeem over A FUCKING PINKY TOE. If this was Lesnar you would be all over his shit to man up and fight. In fact, Lesnar had a stomach disease that had him laid up in the Mayo Clinic and nearly KILLED him, and you claimed he was faking, lol.

Showtime wouldnt delay the fight, Overeem has a boo boo on his wittle toe, so let's blame Zuffa! Did you know Zuffa killed Caylee Anthony? And caused the national deficit? It's true. They are the source of all evil.
 
Overeem or Golden Glory have said the toe would not have been a problem but he just didn't want to fight in September.
 
Overeem or Golden Glory have said the toe would not have been a problem but he just didn't want to fight in September.

That's the other thing, dude changed his story three times.

First the toe, then he was on vacation and didn't have time to train, then he blamed Showtime.
 
Ariel Helwani: Are you disappointed that you were taken out of the tournament?
Alistair Overeem: Yes, of course I'm disappointed. Winning the tournament was my number one goal. I understand their position, but they have to understand mine, and I'm disappointed we couldn't work it out.

It has been reported that you have one fight left on your contract, is that true and how are negotiations going for an extension?
I don't like to talk about my contract negotiations, but the rumors about me pulling out of the tournament because of that are false. Everybody is trying to find reasons why I was pulled out of the tournament, but I can tell you this: it's not that difficult. Strikeforce promised me a date in the fall (October/November), I acted on it and chose to go on holiday and start my training in August. Zuffa/Showtime then decided to do it in September and then the ball was in my court, and I had to decline because I know it's too short of time to be prepared 100 percent Instead of postponing the event they decided that the show must go on and use one of the alternates. It's their choice, and I respect that but that don't change the fact that nobody benefits from this situation; the fans, the promotion, the event and myself are the ones that are missing out on a great tournament and a great fight. The only one that benefits out of this whole situation is Daniel Cormier, so I wish him best of luck, and I hope eventually to fight the winner of the tournament for the belt.

Showtime delayed the tournament in April, so why couldn't they delay it this time around?
I don't know but my guess is that when Zuffa took over Strikeforce there were other interests. If you look at the month of October, you can see three UFC shows and two of them are big and have title fights as the main event. That makes you wonder if they want a Grand Prix semi-final in between on Showtime.

Sept. 10 is seven weeks away. Why isn't that enough time for you to prepare for a fight?
At the moment I have started training by myself because most of my team members and trainer are on holiday, so I didn't start my real training camp yet. I have to get sparring partners from other countries and fly them in and arrange accommodations. Everything was according to plan and that was to start my fighting program on August 1. So let's take that date as my starting point, then you have to be in the States a week before the fight. So if you calculate it, then you have just four weeks and that's not enough to have a good and well prepared training for such a big fight.

You've always been known as an active fighter, for example, you competed in a combined 14 MMA and K-1 bouts in 2009-10, however, you've fought just once in 2011. Why have things changed?
There are many explanations: the level of competition and the stakes are different. It's safe to say that all those opponents aren't as good as 'Bigfoot,' the other reason is that K-1 matches are very different to train and you don't need a very long training camp if you compare it to MMA. The most important is that you can fight multiple times if you don't interrupt your training. If the September date was confirmed right after the Werdum fight, it was no problem to get in shape because I would have skipped my holiday and organized the training camp earlier. If you go on a holiday and you stop training and enjoy life by eating things you're normally aren't allowed or going out instead of sleeping then your momentum is gone and you have to start all over again and that cost extra time as well. There is a reason why UFC champions only fight two times a year.

Have you talked to Zuffa since you were removed from the tournament? If so, what's the state of your relationship with them today?
No, I didn't speak to anybody at Zuffa. I only communicate with my management and they talk to them. If you ask me what the state of our relationship is, I think nothing has changed. It would be silly to think that they don't understand my decision.

How badly injured is your toe? When can you resume training?
It's not that bad, otherwise I would have canceled [the Silva fight] because of that injury alone. It's more that my body isn't pain-free, there are minor injuries but they prevent you from training 100 percent. If you have just four-to-six weeks, and you have those minor things, then you are jeopardizing your training. I have started my training recently, and on August 1, I will have a training camp.

When do you think you will fight for Strikeforce again?
I don't know.

Is there a chance that you will fight for someone else before fighting for Strikeforce again?
I hope so. I like to be active, and like I told you, I will be ready according to the first date we agreed with Strikeforce and that is in October.

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Here's another good point no one has brought up.

Overeem only has one fight left on his deal, and has already had negotiation issues with Zuffa. Who's to say he wouldn't just walk away, or at the minimum, hold up Zuffa before even showing up for the finals (assuming he would have beaten Silva)?

When you consider the Showtime issue, plus Overeem's contract situation, combined with the fact that this trainwreck has already had a bevy of issues, I can see why Zuffa is just moving on without him.

And like I said in the other thread, WHAT THE HELL WAS COKER THINKING PUTTING HIM IN A THREE FIGHT TOURNAMENT WITH TWO FIGHTS LEFT ON HIS CONTRACT!!??
 
lol if he really does have just 1 fight left on his contract.

He'd have to hold out for more money if he fought in September and beat big foot, otherwise, he'd be a moron.
 
Coker does what he has to do to survive, he was running the number 2 promotion off his blackberry while drinking tall lattes at a starbucks in san jose, no one has done more with less

To bad he didn't have 50 million to play with/lose, maybe SF would have made it, them the breaks I guess, luck was not on his side though
 
Coker does what he has to do to survive, he was running the number 2 promotion off his blackberry while drinking tall lattes at a starbucks in san jose, no one has done more with less

To bad he didn't have 50 million to play with/lose, maybe SF would have made it, them the breaks I guess, luck was not on his side though

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Lol @ bjorn doing more, maybe one day, but when he can get 750k a show from a network, over a million viewers and a live gate over a mill than we can talk
 
No, he hasn't done as much as Coker yet. Chances are, Bellator will be done next year...but damn did he promote some fun shows.

:(
 
But rob, this is all just a personal theory by someone who is never objective.

All we really know for sure is that Showtime did not want to delay it. It doesnt matter what Showtime has done in the past. They didnt want to delay this time.

And I also find it comical how you sympathize with Overeem over A FUCKING PINKY TOE. If this was Lesnar you would be all over his shit to man up and fight. In fact, Lesnar had a stomach disease that had him laid up in the Mayo Clinic and nearly KILLED him, and you claimed he was faking, lol.

Showtime wouldnt delay the fight, Overeem has a boo boo on his wittle toe, so let's blame Zuffa! Did you know Zuffa killed Caylee Anthony? And caused the national deficit? It's true. They are the source of all evil.

different situations

Injury, whatever, I never even cared about the toe, it doesnt matter actually, it is not enough time for a match like this, they always said Oct/Nov, he fought 6/18, they want 9/10, not enough time to prepare, listen to his interview

He was told a time frame, you have to get your team together, your sparring partners, etc...he lives in Europe, he has travel time, partners who fight all over the world, etc...you have to make plans, moving it up a month if not more screws everything up, this is the beginning of Sept, they had him thinking Oct/Nov, thats a MAJOR change

Brock on the other hand had forever to get ready, a TV show to promote, etc...he doesnt want to fight (like I said before it was cancelled, it was a ratings grab which failed anyway), probably will never fight again, after Brock fought Cain did they plan a fight not even 3 months later? No, of course,, because THAT DOESNT HAPPEN, it's not done because it is to quick

Look at the history of high level fights, 4 months minimum besdies And1 after a showcase fight with a bum at 205, and that was still more time than this fight

THE JIG IS UP
 
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