is Jonathan Martin a dumb ass or did someone do something to him worth talking about?

[Maynard]

What about the death threats? Or the threat to Martin's family?

You, like f16, are putting the blame on the victim and defending Incognito. Fucking dunces.

death threats? really? cmon, its locker room bashing. we say shit worse than this to each other at work. breaking balls. dont take that shit out of context. yes, he said those things, but he was ragging on him for talking shit on twitter about his work out plan. if Martin was so threatened, then why didnt he speak up back in April?

this is a situation where Martin got pissed at the ball busting that took place and had enough of it and stormed out. That would have been fine up until the media started to get details from HIS agent.

btw, dont be such a fucking tool. just because ESPN wants to drive the story, dont follow them like a fag who doesnt have a brain. Think for yourself

[Obst]

death threats? really? cmon, its locker room bashing. we say shit worse than this to each other at work. breaking balls. dont take that shit out of context. yes, he said those things, but he was ragging on him for talking shit on twitter about his work out plan. if Martin was so threatened, then why didnt he speak up back in April?

this is a situation where Martin got pissed at the ball busting that took place and had enough of it and stormed out. That would have been fine up until the media started to get details from HIS agent.

btw, dont be such a fucking tool. just because ESPN wants to drive the story, dont follow them like a fag who doesnt have a brain. Think for yourself

If I called someone a nigger and said I would slap their mother I would most likely be fired on the spot. Pretty sure that goes for 99% of the people on this site too.

[kmanharris]

death threats? really? cmon, its locker room bashing. we say shit worse than this to each other at work. breaking balls. dont take that shit out of context. yes, he said those things, but he was ragging on him for talking shit on twitter about his work out plan. if Martin was so threatened, then why didnt he speak up back in April?

this is a situation where Martin got pissed at the ball busting that took place and had enough of it and stormed out. That would have been fine up until the media started to get details from HIS agent.

btw, dont be such a fucking tool. just because ESPN wants to drive the story, dont follow them like a fag who doesnt have a brain. Think for yourself

You call people niggers and threaten to kill them at work? Makes sense that you don't find this to be a big deal

Incognito hasn't even denied any of this. But since some of the info is from martin's agent, we should just ignore it.

Funny I'm the tool but you're the one saying it's okay to threaten someone or their family because it's "only ball busting"

[ram29jackson]

If I called someone a nigger and said I would slap their mother I would most likely be fired on the spot. Pretty sure that goes for 99% of the people on this site too.

so what ? that's understood.

I just don't like all the pc fire alarm stupidity like this is the biggest crime in the world.

and calling someone a half-nigger doesn't prove you are racist. Just means you are an untactful dumb ass.

[Glenbino]

so what ? that's understood.

I just don't like all the pc fire alarm stupidity like this is the biggest crime in the world.

and calling someone a half-nigger doesn't prove you are racist. Just means you are an untactful dumb ass.

If you text a coworker and call him a half-n****** it proves you're an idiot.

[ram29jackson]

If you text a coworker and call him a half-n****** it proves you're an idiot.

LOL same thing

[Guest]

Listen, I think that there aren't many "right" parties in this situation, and Incognito, as well as Philbin should get the chop, however I also don't think Martin handled it well. All I'm saying.

I actually agree on this. Martin was the victim, but this is also something where the victim can stand up for themselves and not let it get this bad. Getting that voicemail should have been automatic to take it to the front office.

[ram29jackson]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

http://deadspin.com/is-richie-incognitos-dad-blasting-jonathan-martin-on-m-1457997230

[f16harm]

What about the death threats? Or the threat to Martin's family?

You, like f16, are putting the blame on the victim and defending Incognito. Fucking dunces.

Most of what I say has been about Martin not having a set of balls, because I think a man of his age, size, and profession showed an extreme lack of them. I admitted more than once Incognito was wrong and is a psycho. But I don't put all of the blame on the victim here. I see it like Pitty/ThomasTomasz see it. All parties involved handled this piss poor. Like John Beohner said: "No one's winning, This isn't some damn game'"

[Maynard]

If I called someone a nigger and said I would slap their mother I would most likely be fired on the spot. Pretty sure that goes for 99% of the people on this site too.

we dont use the word nigger and i didnt mean to imply that we did. But we do say things about each others wives or call each other names. some guys come in and rather than say good morning they say fuck you asshole. I work in a professional (i use that loosely) office full of guys who treat each other like its a frat house. the owner of my company is a former football player.

while what goes on at my work isnt common, what happens in an NFL locker room is....shit, we even saw it during the hard knox shows. but now because one guy is catching feelings its all bully boo hoo BS....cmon

[Len B]

guys, these are the times you ignore r29j, like when a family matter gets serious and you tell your sassy preteen niece who likes make unintentional funny comments to leave the room

Why the fuck are you typing in all lower case? I will stab you in the neck with a pencil and make you piss in your mother's earlobe while listening to Lisa Loeb. Piece of shit I will end you.

[ram29jackson]

who's Lisa Loeb ?

[Mogriffjr]

we dont use the word nigger and i didnt mean to imply that we did. But we do say things about each others wives or call each other names. some guys come in and rather than say good morning they say fuck you asshole. I work in a professional (i use that loosely) office full of guys who treat each other like its a frat house. the owner of my company is a former football player.

while what goes on at my work isnt common, what happens in an NFL locker room is....shit, we even saw it during the hard knox shows. but now because one guy is catching feelings its all bully boo hoo BS....cmon

For some reason, I don't think it's quite a "frathouse" feel with Incognito and Martin.

Call him a pussy, a bitch or whatever but it reached a breaking point where he had to take a leave of absence from his job...some people reach their point, they may commit suicide, they may confront the bully (who knows if he even tried), or some just try to let it go and hide it inside...this is how he chose to deal with it.

[MrBill]

who's Lisa Loeb ?

90's pop singer that had that one song "Stay"

[mcstl25]

Incognito was the absolute worst in St. Louis. Richie being an unofficial spokesman for the Dolphins always seems weird and creepy. The dude is a first class dirt bag and always will be.