An Elite QB explains what an elite QB is on Twitter

[wr50l]

the ring is the ultimate prize..you are in the league and you get it as a starter, that makes you elite, its very very simple

It doesn't make shitty safeties who give up weak touchdowns elite. It doesn't make offensive linemen who give up multiple sacks in a season elite. It doesn't make members of a defensive front seven which has the worst run defence in the league elite. So why quarterbacks?

Qadry Ismail - Superbowl winner with the Baltimore Ravens. ELITE?!

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

the ring is the ultimate prize..you are in the league and you get it as a starter, that makes you elite, its very very simple

Jim Plunkett is elite? How about Doug Williams? Jeff Hostetler is elite? Are you really going to try to sell me on that? Brad Johnson?

 

[MrBill]

the ring is the ultimate prize..you are in the league and you get it as a starter, that makes you elite, its very very simple

I will say that it puts you in elite company but doesn't necessarily make you elite. You still need the high level of performance over a period of several seasons to become truly elite with or without rings.

I totally get the rings argument though. I just don't think it is the only thing you can look at.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Rings are part of the equation, no question.

If it's the basis of your argument, you're lazy.

 

[ram29jackson]

:what:

I'm just saying I don't give a fuck who anyone not even Troy Aikman thinks is elite if his or her entire argument is about winning a Superbowl. I don't understand this age-old debate about how x/y plays like an elite player game after game then some fud always says they haven't won the Superbowl so they aren't elite, then everyone's talking about whether a ring makes someone elite (which it doesn't). We all watch football games, it's truly not hard to evaluate a player, especially a quarterback, if you have just a little bit of a football brain. And for the record, I'm not saying you do not.

at the bottom of page 1 , I said i'm pretty sure his quote is referring to Joe Flacco and that Joe is Elite because he is/has been a winner.

i'm sure he was talking about the commentators bringing up the topic before tonights game considering all the critiqueing of Flacco

 

[ram29jackson]

I will say that it puts you in elite company but doesn't necessarily make you elite. You still need the high level of performance over a period of several seasons to become truly elite with or without rings.

I totally get the rings argument though. I just don't think it is the only thing you can look at.

thats why I say both Marino and Dilfer are elite. They were both highly successful in various aspects of the game as individuals and part of a team.

 

[ram29jackson]

Winning the Super Bowl does not automatically make you elite. It makes you a Super Bowl winner.

Yes it does

 

[NAHSTE]

SEMANTICS R FUN

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Trent Dilfer is 154th all time in passer rating, below such NFL luminaries who played during his era such as Rex Grossman, Josh McCown, Quincey Carter, Gary Hogeboom, John Friesz, Bubby Brister, Rodney Peete, Hugh Millen, Craig Erickson, Ty Detmer, Tim Couch, Jim Miller, Chad Henne, Jay Fiedler, Tarvaris Jackson, Damon Huard, and wait for it...wait for it....TONY BANKS, the shit bum scrub who he failed to beat out for the Ravens starting job during the 2000 preseason.

Trent Dilfer is not elite. Trent Dilfer was fortunate enough to be behind center for a team in a game that he had very little to do with winning. And even if Dilfer threw for 400 yards and three scores in that single game sample, he still wouldn't qualify as elite.

Trent Dilfer will tell you he isn't an elite QB.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Trent Dilfer is 154th all time in passer rating, below such NFL luminaries who played during his era such as Rex Grossman, Josh McCown, Quincey Carter, Gary Hogeboom, John Friesz, Bubby Brister, Rodney Peete, Hugh Millen, Craig Erickson, Ty Detmer, Tim Couch, Jim Miller, Chad Henne, Jay Fiedler, Tarvaris Jackson, Damon Huard, and wait for it...wait for it....TONY BANKS, the shit bum scrub who he failed to beat out for the Ravens starting job during the 2000 preseason.

Trent Dilfer is not elite. Trent Dilfer was fortunate enough to be behind center for a team in a game that he had very little to do with winning. And even if Dilfer threw for 400 yards and three scores in that single game sample, he still wouldn't qualify as elite.

Trent Dilfer will tell you he isn't an elite QB.

why are you doing this?

 

[Jayrock]

Trent Dilfer is 154th all time in passer rating, below such NFL luminaries who played during his era such as Rex Grossman, Josh McCown, Quincey Carter, Gary Hogeboom, John Friesz, Bubby Brister, Rodney Peete, Hugh Millen, Craig Erickson, Ty Detmer, Tim Couch, Jim Miller, Chad Henne, Jay Fiedler, Tarvaris Jackson, Damon Huard, and wait for it...wait for it....TONY BANKS, the shit bum scrub who he failed to beat out for the Ravens starting job during the 2000 preseason.

Trent Dilfer is not elite. Trent Dilfer was fortunate enough to be behind center for a team in a game that he had very little to do with winning. And even if Dilfer threw for 400 yards and three scores in that single game sample, he still wouldn't qualify as elite.

Trent Dilfer will tell you he isn't an elite QB.

oh

 

[MVPete]

Trent Dilfer is 154th all time in passer rating, below such NFL luminaries who played during his era such as Rex Grossman, Josh McCown, Quincey Carter, Gary Hogeboom, John Friesz, Bubby Brister, Rodney Peete, Hugh Millen, Craig Erickson, Ty Detmer, Tim Couch, Jim Miller, Chad Henne, Jay Fiedler, Tarvaris Jackson, Damon Huard, and wait for it...wait for it....TONY BANKS, the shit bum scrub who he failed to beat out for the Ravens starting job during the 2000 preseason.

Trent Dilfer is not elite. Trent Dilfer was fortunate enough to be behind center for a team in a game that he had very little to do with winning. And even if Dilfer threw for 400 yards and three scores in that single game sample, he still wouldn't qualify as elite.

Trent Dilfer will tell you he isn't an elite QB.

Jesus christ I thought I took away all your troll food. I come in here at 2 am and you are feeding the god damn thing. :bobbyv:

 

[Saluki]

Trent Dilfers SB ring to me is like Big Bens 1st ring. He was just along for the ride, hell the Steelers won that first ring despite a TERRIBLE game from Ben, no one in their right mind could have looked at him after that game and called him Elite, when he went 9 for 20 and threw 2 picks.

 

[ram29jackson]

Trent Dilfers SB ring to me is like Big Bens 1st ring. He was just along for the ride, hell the Steelers won that first ring despite a TERRIBLE game from Ben, no one in their right mind could have looked at him after that game and called him Elite, when he went 9 for 20 and threw 2 picks.

QB is the hardest task on the field. Along for the ride my ass.

 

[Maestro]

Both Dan Marino and Trent Dilfer are elite to me.

:lol:

 

[RyanLeaf16]

It of course means win multiple times, it doesnt have to be a championship. Both Dan Marino and Trent Dilfer are elite to me. All your stat arguments and game manager accusations dont mean shit when you never played the game at the highest level. They have and won or nearly won the ultimate prize. That is an elite QB. That said, when you are the the winning QB on the winning team for that one game, you are elite for that one day no matter what anyone says. Especially the trolling pinheads who post here

You lost me with Trent Dilfer as an elite QB.

 

[Maynard]

Both Dan Marino and Trent Dilfer are elite to me.

this about sums up ramjacksons posting career

 

[ralaw]

I didn't hear people saying Big Ben was "elite" when he won his second SB. As much as I hate the Steelers....there are probably only 2-3 Qb's I'd take over Big Ben.

 

[RosettaStoned]

Every Saturday night is W2B vs. 2 to 3 dudes. Usually one of them is me.

Fixed

 

[Rip]

Of course Troy Aikman, one of the most overrated quarterbacks to ever play, would say winning is what says you're elite or not. It's easy to win multiple times when you have the second best offensive line of all time, one of the best defenses and every offensive weapon you need, Troy. I mean Brad Johnson has more impressive stats than Aikman, he just didn't have a dynasty around him.