An Elite QB explains what an elite QB is on Twitter

[ZoneBlitz]

Both Dan Marino and Trent Dilfer are elite to me.

mg2:

This post invalidates anything you have to say on this subject.

 

[Saluki]

QB is the hardest task on the field. Along for the ride my ass.

It is, and he sucked at it that superbowl and coulda easily cost them that game. He played terrible, and they won despite him.

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[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Aikmans quote never said Superbowl or elaborated. Someone please show me an elite QB who doesnt win games ?


Anyways SB wins are a differentiator not a creator of elite QBs. One should know the difference between a QB who is asked to win games the other who is asked not to lose games. Not only for a single game but over the course of a season and playoff run.

For the record.
Brady as play not to lose QB: 3-0
Brady as the asked to win games QB: 0-2
Just sayin':wub::wub::wub:

 

[SethMode]

It is, and he sucked at it that superbowl and coulda easily cost them that game. He played terrible, and they won despite him.

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And that was one game, a game you could argue that they only got to because of his play in the two previous games. The Big Ben argument is silly because he did a lot for the Steelers over the course of that entire season that got them into the position where they could win that SB. Big Ben's poor SB =\= Trent Dilfer basically just being there for half of the Ravens season (a season which featured one of the historically greatest defenses of all time).

 

[ram29jackson]

mg2:

This post invalidates anything you have to say on this subject.

no, it proves how much more wisdom I have then the rest of you fools.

Yes I know on a comparitive level, there are better athletes and QB technicians then others.
But to downplay and mock the accomplishment of being the QB of A Super Bowl winning team is very childish. Being a long term starting QB in the NFL is a difficult task and accomplishment no matter the level of play you accomplish over time. It doesnt matter whether its 10 years of being a Joe Montana or 5 Years of Being A Dilfer. Being A QB and leading a team to SB is obviously a hard accomplishment and many factors need to be right and ready for it to happen.

That said, I'm pretty sure the Aikman quote is about Flacco...

 

[bucky]

Before you critisize my replavcement ref stance, please explain to me what that stance was, exactly. Because i'm pretty sure you don't know. Thanks.

The replacement refs are passable.
They are good enough.
The regular refs are terrible and the replacements are not much different than the regulars.
The MNF game was a debacle and everybody is nit picky on those bad calls. (You contradicted yourself in the same Damn post).

You were WRONG. Just admit it and then STFU about it.:lalala:

 

[ram29jackson]

You lost me with Trent Dilfer as an elite QB.

you obviously dont know anything about QBs, look at the name you gave yourself.

 

[bucky]

Of course Troy Aikman, one of the most overrated quarterbacks to ever play,

Aikman could have put up better numbers, but he saw the big picture. Aikman wasn't a place holder, he was a team leader that made clutch throws when he had to. But he saw the big picture and the best way to win championships. I don't think Troy was Dan Marino, but Aikman was still an elite QB. He was smart, accurate as hell, and could make the clutch throws. And I HATE the Cowboys.

 

[dboy_dc]

]Of course Troy Aikman, one of the most overrated quarterbacks to ever play, would say winning is what says you're elite or not. It's easy to win multiple times when you have the second best offensive line of all time, one of the best defenses and every offensive weapon you need, Troy.[/B] I mean Brad Johnson has more impressive stats than Aikman, he just didn't have a dynasty around him.

:michaelscott:

Aikman overrated?
Dude, Kill yourself..

What about Brady's Offensive Line, Top 10 Defense, & a Kicker that saved him 3 times?

I'm not about to mention every QB that has won something but believe that 1 side of the ball was extremely dominate. You don't make it deep in the playoffs with a terrible offensive line.

 

[Aso]

Big Ben disagrees.

 

[NAHSTE]

Aikman overrated?
Dude, Kill yourself..

LOL at how seriously people take this kind of shit. You need to relax, brobot, that's a bit of an overreaction. Who really cares if someone on the internet thinks a player from your favorite football team is "overrated"?

 

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

LOL at how seriously people take this kind of shit. You need to relax, brobot, that's a bit of an overreaction. Who really cares if someone on the internet thinks a player from your favorite football team is "overrated"?

He's a Cowboys fan Nahste, you seem surprised at his actions, you know better than that

 

[Loco]

Is this a troll thread?

Everything RamJackson says is a troll, right?

 

[ram29jackson]

Is this a troll thread?

Everything RamJackson says is a troll, right?

no you stupid f----

I get he aint no Joe Montana. But for you fat dumb internet dweebs to be saying it aint about nothin' when a NFL QB plays a full season and leads..yes I said leads because he is the QB it is the offense and no defense ever scored enough to win anything...his team to a Super Bowl and wins it. Its a great accomplishment. You are elite no matter what because you played a major part in doing it. Marino had great stats and is elite but its all relative in the end And Dilfer did his job and got a ring. And you cant make some lame anyone can do it argument. He is in elite company whether for one day or 10 years, no matter how you dumb sports loving dweebs want to slice it.

..and again, the threads about Flacco you...you..you...what the hell are those furry things with mouths above my post ?

 

[Saluki]

no you stupid f----

I get he aint no Joe Montana. But for you fat dumb internet dweebs to be saying it aint about nothin' when a NFL QB plays a full season and leads..yes I said leads because he is the QB it is the offense and no defense ever scored enough to win anything...his team to a Super Bowl and wins it. Its a great accomplishment. You are elite no matter what because you played a major part in doing it. Marino had great stats and is elite but its all relative in the end And Dilfer did his job and got a ring. And you cant make some lame anyone can do it argument. He is in elite company whether for one day or 10 years, no matter how you dumb sports loving dweebs want to slice it.

..and again, the threads about Flacco you...you..you...what the hell are those furry things with mouths above my post ?

What about backups who win the superbowl? Like Brady's first one for instance. Bledsoe lead them through the entire season and the start of the playoffs. Brady essentially played 5qtrs. Are they both elite? Is only Brady? If so why not Bledsoe? He lead them there

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[dave]

Of course Troy Aikman, one of the most overrated quarterbacks to ever play, would say winning is what says you're elite or not. It's easy to win multiple times when you have the second best offensive line of all time, one of the best defenses and every offensive weapon you need, Troy. I mean Brad Johnson has more impressive stats than Aikman, he just didn't have a dynasty around him.

I despise the Cowboys, but calling Aikman overrated is ridiculous.

 

[ram29jackson]

What about backups who win the superbowl? Like Brady's first one for instance. Bledsoe lead them through the entire season and the start of the playoffs. Brady essentially played 5qtrs. Are they both elite? Is only Brady? If so why not Bledsoe? He lead them there

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um.....the Kicker won both those games....

 

[Rip]

Okay, since everyone took that out of context...

I'm not saying every quarterback who has good things around him are mediocre. I'm saying that even though he was surrounded with one of the best dynasties ever around him, he still put up mediocre numbers. Look at Troy Aikman's passer rating in all of his superbowls and passer rating in general. The idea of getting that low of a passer rating with that team is absurd, never mind having lower passer ratings in your superbowls than Rex Grossman.

Let's compare Brad Johnson, an injury riddled nomadic qb, and Troy Aikman, a QB who had all he could ask for:

 

[dave]

I had no clue Brad Johnson's numbers were that good. I never bashed Brad Johnson, but I had no clue his numbers were that good.

 

[Aso]

Troy Aikman played lights out in those Superbowl seasons but outside of those 3 seasons he does not look like anything special.