Brady sucks now

[bucky]

No.
So do I. Hence why I don't choose to elevate or diminish the guy based on one game.

If Yates made it to the SB, he would have had to perform well in more than just ONE game.

I don't base things off of one game either. I based Brett on many playoff games. And I also base things off of NE's playoffs since their SB wins. With Brett it was multiple times he made those big playoff mistakes. NE's offense scored around 14 points in the last two SB's and besides the last two SB runs, haven't been much of a playoff presence since the SB wins. The 4th QTR int just adds to Brady's "GOAT" or "non GOAT" legacy, along with NE's not having the same playoff presence and scoring so few points in the SB's when the did make these last two playoff runs. I'm looking at NE's and Brady's performances since those SB wins. I realize Brady wasn't the sole reason NE won those SB's, he had good D's those years and a consistently good kicker, but he was a big part of those SB wins.

To me, he's still in the convo for "GOAT" and a sure fire first ballot HOFer. As great as Brett was during the Regular season, I have Brady greater than Brett because of Brett's multiple playoff mistakes. I'm still glad to have had Brett, and he should be considered one of the all time best, but I just don't have Brett in the "GOAT" convo. I think Brady at least belongs in the convo. Eli doesn't. Yet Eli's has to be elevated for his game winning SB drives and Brady has to take a hit for his offense scoring so few points in the last two SB's against the Giants, the playoff losses since the SB wins, the 4th QTR int in this last SB.

QB's don't always play at the same level during their entire career. Ralaw might think so, but they don't.

 

[FirstTimer]

HE HAD A STEP ON HIM...kinda like Gronk on Blackburn :thumbsup:

Yeah, I mean JPP and Brady running togetehr is totally like Gronk and Blackburn running together.

:gayrod:

If Yates made it to the SB, he would have had to perform well in more than just ONE game.

Arguable

You don't know that.

And perform well relative to what?

I don't base things off of one game either.

:jonesy:

Some stupid shit

I saw "Brett" and quit reading.

He's irrelevant to this discussion.

 

[FirstTimer]

Yeah, I mean chasing someone at an angle is totally like running at a straight line.

Yeah I mean JPP running down Tom Brad at an angle would be so out of the realm of what we know about each player and their abilities.

 

[Bear Pand]

I think this is being pretty objective and fair. Maybe you can move a few games around:

Since 05

Good Games:
05 Jaguars
06 Jets
07 Jaguars
11 Broncos

OK Games:
06 Colts
07 Giants
11 Giants

Bad Games (Choke Jobs)
05 Denver
06 Chargers
07 Chargers
09 Ravens
10 Jets
11 Ravens

It's easy when you get to play the Tebows or the damn Jags. And SMH at two of the "good games" being some of the biggest collaspes/upsets we've seen.

 

[FirstTimer]

The angle JPP had to run down Brady would have gave him 3-5 yards if he ran.

:jonesy:

10 Yards if he threw to BGE at the first down marker.

Or throw a 65 yard pass to a TE with an High Angle sprain.

GREAT DECISION

Oh sweet a choose your own adventure book!

 

[SHOGUN]

:smugruss:

 

[MrBill]

Wow.

@SportsCenter In his first 10 career postseason starts, Tom Brady won 3 Super Bowls (10-0). Since then, he's 7-7 (0-2 in Super Bowls).

 

[Slateman]

 

[Maynard]

this certainly takes away from both brady and bellichecks legacy. at one time bill was thought of as the 2nd coming to lombardi and in many peoples minds he was the goat. brady would get put up there with montana as best ever, but now with the continuous string of playoff and SB losses they have shown they are not the end all be all super geniuses people claimed they were

 

[FedEx227]

Continuous string of playoff losses? Except for, like, last week. And except for the two games they won last year.

NFL NARRATIVES... CATCH THE FEVER!

 

[Saluki]

I think people overreact about Tom Brady. They did just play in two of the last 4 superbowls. Shit winning the Superbowl is hard, yeah he hasn't won a ring since 04 but he still has more rings as a starting QB than any other Active QB. And 3 more superbowl appearances as a starter than any other active QB. Shit i wish my QB could get to 5 superbowls and lose two. I'd take that all day over not getting there at all.

 

[ryne candy]

Yesterday seems to be the 1st time (that I can recall) that Brady didn't perform under pressure at the closing of a game. Still means he's been pretty awesome every other time. Receivers missing catches on 4th down to continue a drive will have a negative effect in which side of the game you will fall in.

 

[NAHSTE]

TOM BRADY WILL NEVER WIN A SUPER BOWL

 

[Aso]

Yesterday seems to be the 1st time (that I can recall) that Brady didn't perform under pressure at the closing of a game. Still means he's been pretty awesome every other time. Receivers missing catches on 4th down to continue a drive will have a negative effect in which side of the game you will fall in.

:what:

 

[Bear Pand]

Continuous string of playoff losses? Except for, like, last week. And except for the two games they won last year.

NFL NARRATIVES... CATCH THE FEVER!

The NFL narrative is that Brady is a clutch cold blooded playoff killer. When's the last time that was true?

 

[Mogriffjr]

Pollard aka patriot killer is what happened to the Patriots...

 

[ralaw]

I think people overreact about Tom Brady. They did just play in two of the last 4 superbowls. Shit winning the Superbowl is hard, yeah he hasn't won a ring since 04 but he still has more rings as a starting QB than any other Active QB. And 3 more superbowl appearances as a starter than any other active QB. Shit i wish my QB could get to 5 superbowls and lose two. I'd take that all day over not getting there at all.

Agreed, I think it is about perspective.

 

[KNUBB]

We still ignoring the importance of Spygate?

 

[SethMode]

We still ignoring the importance of Spygate?

Honestly, that's pretty much where I'm at at this point. Remember when the Pats would do weirdo shit like put a LB at TE or a WR at CB and the shit always worked EVERY time? Now, they're obviously still good, but it certainly is suspicious how so much just doesn't work for them post Spygate.

 

[mgoblue2290]

We still ignoring the importance of Spygate?

Its not like they made two Super Bowls after that and lost them in very close games.